No need to hack now, DS1102E is $399.00usd

[hacklordsniper]

It seems like here in Europe we will just have to wait for a price drop =/

Here its 900 EUR for DS1052E, the DS1102E is not available

[Armin_Balija]

I bought their DS1052E on Nov 20th from their Amazon site, anyone know if they'd honor their price difference refund from a purchase so close to their price drop date? I emailed their site but haven't gotten a reply. Scope already arrived, I'm in the hospital so I can't get my hands on it .

[robrenz]

Sounds more like if you order a DS1052E from Saelig now they automatically send you a DS1102E. I don't see they offer to upgrade already sold DS1052Es.

I spoke to Saelig and  Rigol tech support in Ohio USA today about availability of a software upgrade from Rigol to make the 1052 into a 1102. Saelig sent me to Rigol and Rigol states there is no firmware upgrade available for the 1052.  The upgrade shown on the Saelig site is Physicaly getting a 1102 when you order a 1052, not an upgraded 1052.  When I mentioned that it is obvious from various electronics forums that the hardware is identical and can be upgraded by software. They said they were aware of it but do not support it.

[Armin_Balija]

Sounds more like if you order a DS1052E from Saelig now they automatically send you a DS1102E. I don't see they offer to upgrade already sold DS1052Es.

I spoke to Saelig and  Rigol tech support in Ohio USA today about availability of a software upgrade from Rigol to make the 1052 into a 1102. Saelig sent me to Rigol and Rigol states there is no firmware upgrade available for the 1052.  The upgrade shown on the Saelig site is Physicaly getting a 1102 when you order a 1052, not an upgraded 1052.  When I mentioned that it is obvious from various electronics forums that the hardware is identical and can be upgraded by software. They said they were aware of it but do not support it.

Do you know if Saelig or Tequipment will send you the difference if you've purchased a 1052 within 10 days of their price drop?

[Bored@Work]

Do you know if Saelig or Tequipment will send you the difference if you've purchased a 1052 within 10 days of their price drop?

Why don't you just ask them? They have e-mail. Both of them.

[MikeK]

I bought their DS1052E on Nov 20th from their Amazon site, anyone know if they'd honor their price difference refund from a purchase so close to their price drop date? I emailed their site but haven't gotten a reply. Scope already arrived, I'm in the hospital so I can't get my hands on it .

I just got an email from Saelig that said they will give a $50 web-store credit to people buying the DS1052E after Nov 14.

[Armin_Balija]

Do you know if Saelig or Tequipment will send you the difference if you've purchased a 1052 within 10 days of their price drop?

Why don't you just ask them? They have e-mail. Both of them.

Because I've e-mailed both and haven't received a response. However, someone in this thread has given me a response before those companies did. I don't see what the point of your post was? It really didn't add anything to the thread other than to chastise me for no reason?

[barry_g]

Saelig is sold out of the DS1102E.

They're back in stock at Saelig before I found it anywhere else.  Tequipment.net is back ordered but they don't tell you that unless you call them.

Appreciate all the help from the forum and Dave's blog.

[IanB]

My DS1102E arrived today from Saelig 

The build quality is nice, and the bonus padded bag and free shipping from Saelig was extra nice.

On the minus side is the fan noise. It's not terrible, but silent would be much nicer. What needs so much cooling, anyway?

It's my first ever encounter with an oscilloscope, so right now it is a complicated box of buttons and knobs to explore. Another downside here is the lack of a printed manual. I assume the operating manual is on the included CD, but it would be nice to have a printed booklet to refer to.

So far the small screen doesn't seem that much of an issue, especially when you can zoom in to see more detail. A bigger screen means a bigger box, and more room taken up on the bench. The small form factor of this instrument is a big advantage compared to the bulky and heavy nature of an analog scope.

[saturation]

@IanB: enjoy.  The ADC are overclocked, but search the archives for fan substitutes and checks of operating temp after a susbtitution.
@barry_g: Tequipment tells me they are selling briskly.  Seems like Rigol hit it big to boost the year end balance sheets with the price change.

[nkcelectronics]

NKC Electronics is also selling the DS1102E for $399 on amazon.com and shipped by amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Rigol-DS1102E-100MHz-DSO/dp/B001VKCJ0M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323561371&sr=8-1

[IanB]

Also Rigol North America: http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/

$329 for the DS1052E.

[The_Penguin]

As is usually the case, whenever a piece of gear I want comes down in price, I'm tempted to jump on it, but then find myself wondering. "Hmm if the price just dropped, maybe there's a newer/better model lurking around the corner"

So, any speculation that there may be a 200 mhz entry-level unit in the wings? or some other new improved unit that I'll wish I had waited for?

[EEVblog]

John South from Emona here in Australia has told me they now also have the 1052E and 1102E at very close to the new US prices, AU$329 for the 1052E and AU$420 for the 1102E.
He might chip in here with some more details.

Dave.

[IanB]

As is usually the case, whenever a piece of gear I want comes down in price, I'm tempted to jump on it, but then find myself wondering. "Hmm if the price just dropped, maybe there's a newer/better model lurking around the corner"

So, any speculation that there may be a 200 mhz entry-level unit in the wings? or some other new improved unit that I'll wish I had waited for?

If we assume that Rigol are not sitting still, then there may well be an announcement about some new models next year. However, if any new models are better spec'd than the DS1000 series they sure as heck aren't going to cost $399 

[Chris.M]

John South from Emona here in Australia has told me they now also have the 1052E and 1102E at very close to the new US prices, AU$329 for the 1052E and AU$420 for the 1102E.
He might chip in here with some more details.

Dave.

I can verify that Emona Instruments have now dropped the price of the DS1052E to $329 (EX-GST) and the DS1102E to $420 (EX-GST), which puts their prices almost on parity with the US.

I have just bought a DS1102E for $420 (EX-GST) costing me in total $489.50 (INC-GST and Delivery). I think this is an excellent price considering we are buying from Australia, the unit comes pre-calibrated with the Australian plug, 3 years warranty which Emona covers in-house, and I have to say that Emona have excellent customer service.

I think it is also worth mentioning that Emona are selling these units at a loss to be on parity (or as close as possible) with US pricing. This just shows the way Emona goes about its business. Just brilliant!

I would highly recommend Emona for anyone considering purchasing the Rigol DS1052E or DS1102E.

Regards,
Chris M

[Joshua]

John South from Emona here in Australia has told me they now also have the 1052E and 1102E at very close to the new US prices, AU$329 for the 1052E and AU$420 for the 1102E.
He might chip in here with some more details.

Dave.

I can verify that Emona Instruments have now dropped the price of the DS1052E to $329 (EX-GST) and the DS1102E to $420 (EX-GST), which puts their prices almost on parity with the US.

I have just bought a DS1102E for $420 (EX-GST) costing me in total $489.50 (INC-GST and Delivery). I think this is an excellent price considering we are buying from Australia, the unit comes pre-calibrated with the Australian plug, 3 years warranty which Emona covers in-house, and I have to say that Emona have excellent customer service.

I think it is also worth mentioning that Emona are selling these units at a loss to be on parity (or as close as possible) with US pricing. This just shows the way Emona goes about its business. Just brilliant!

I would highly recommend Emona for anyone considering purchasing the Rigol DS1052E or DS1102E.

Regards,
Chris M

What an interesting first post!

Also, how do you know that Emona is taking a loss??



Reported.

[EEVblog]

I can confirm that Chris is NOT affiliated with emona, just a customer. No need for any skepticism, just a co-incidental first post that Chris just happened to have direct first hand experience with.
Dave.

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[EEVblog]

Also, how do you know that Emona is taking a loss??

Because Emona told him.
I can also confirm this. Those seriously after an official 1102E in Oz won't do any better than the current deal, and they are in stock here.

Dave.

[Joshua]

I can confirm that Chris is NOT affiliated with emona, just a customer. No need for any skepticism, just a co-incidental first post that Chris just happened to have direct first hand experience with.
Dave.

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Chris,

My sincere apologies. Please forgive me for the false accusation. No harm intended. I guess I let my first instincts take precedence.

Sorry, and welcome to the forum!

[IanB]

Although someone may claim they are "taking a loss", they are not likely losing money on the deal. Otherwise their business would not remain in business for long.

[EEVblog]

Although someone may claim they are "taking a loss", they are not likely losing money on the deal. Otherwise their business would not remain in business for long.

That's only the case if they lose money on everything, or a good lot of things.
If it's just an isolated case of where they have to make an actual loss on something to keep good will with local customers, then it's not so silly.
It's usual for local suppliers to have to buy stock at a fixed price from the manufacturers, and then it takes some time to sell that stock, that's part of the risk of doing business.
If the manufacturer goes and slashes the price in the meantime before you've sold that stock, it's not in their interest to reimburse the dealer who has already paid for the stock, sometimes months ago. AFAIK, that's how the system works - you buy stock and take's your chances...
So the dealer is left with either trying to sell the remaining stock at the older high price, or match the new overseas low price and take a loss on the remaining stock.
When everyone sees the much cheaper lower price advertised overseas, they might start thinking the local dealers are ripping them off and get a bad impression. In that case it's not uncommon for local dealers to take the loss to keep customers happy in the long run.

This sort of thing is unfortunately not uncommon in the industry.

Dave.

[Uncle Vernon]

Although someone may claim they are "taking a loss", they are not likely losing money on the deal. Otherwise their business would not remain in business for long.

Most businesses go under because of cash flow. If new or replacement stock of an item becomes available at a better price, your best to move your old stock as soon as possible, the situation is not going to improve by sitting on it. Unless you can predict an upcoming shortage you aren't ever going to shift old stock at a (now) too high price.

Agreed you cannot take a loss on everything you buy/sell and respect  to keep selling. But remember the loss of not selling is going to be much higher than the loss of a discount to current market price even if below cost. like any business it's about minimising losses and maximising gains, and that often forgotten detail of maintaining working capital.

[IanB]

Agree with Dave and Uncle Vernon. Good points both.

As a business you don't want to sit with too much stock on hand. Just enough to satisfy expected demand and no more. Also as a business you don't want your suppliers to undermine you by suddenly lowering prices while you are sitting on old stock.