Do you hide your expensive stuff away when dating/etc ?

[CatalinaWOW]

People have always made tasteless comments about the opposites sex. Women do it just as much as men. The difference is nowadays men are treated more harshly thank women, when they do it.

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex, without fear of repercussions, so long as they keep it to the men's/women's show/locker room. Obviously this forum being a, public, education, mixed sex space, is not the appropriate time and place for this kind of behaviour.

Perhaps this thread should be closed.

Nope, that's not how life works. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm automatically gonna be onboard with another man making tasteless comments about women. That Trumpian locker room talk nonsense is just a poor excuse for acting like a fuckwit. If it's so important to you to be free to make tacky/tasteless comments you should be taking a good hard look at yourself, not whining about being oppressed.

Freedom isn't really there without responsibility.  The freedom allows such remarks to be made.  The responsibility means not exercising that right. 

[bdunham7]

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex

I agree, I would encourage anyone so inclined to make whatever misogynist, racist, anti-semitic or whatever comments to just go ahead and make them so I know not to associate with them or let them near my family/friends/etc. 

[pcprogrammer]

This is drifting in one of those very difficult to address topics about freedom of speech. When is something offending or discriminating.  Often it is in the eye of the beholder.

I do agree with that with freedom of speech also comes responsibility and one has to weigh its words carefully.

But nowadays it looks like every word that is spoken (written) is seen as offending to whomever. There always seems to be someone that takes offense, and we are slowly drifting into a society were nothing can be said anymore.

I did not take offense to what u666sa wrote, because I evaluated it and dismissed it as utter bullshit. No reason to get upset about it.

Ricky Gervais has worked this topic into several of his shows and makes strong points about it. Find some of his work on youtube and make up your own mind about it.

Lets always try to see the humor in things.

[Simon]

OK just stop. We can all start bashing each other with our morality sticks. That is not what this topic was about so lets get back to topic or just leave it.

[bdunham7]

That is not what this topic was about so lets get back to topic or just leave it.

OK, the answer to the OP's actual question is simple.  Go to your local pawn shop and see what sort of stuff they have.  Power tools, jewelry, audio equipment, musical instruments, watches, etc.  Then add in the obvious things like Rolex watches, cash, credit cards, gold, etc.  Those are the things that will attract the attention of random riff-raff you've accidentally let in the house.  But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was. 

[Zero999]

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex

I agree, I would encourage anyone so inclined to make whatever misogynist, racist, anti-semitic or whatever comments to just go ahead and make them so I know not to associate with them or let them near my family/friends/etc. 

All meaningless words which are used all too often. . .

I couldn't care less. I'd rather associate with someone who has told a few naughty jokes and doesn't actually do anything wrong, than some emotionally unstable, virtue signalling puritan, who one can't  have a civil disagreement with.

People have always made tasteless comments about the opposites sex. Women do it just as much as men. The difference is nowadays men are treated more harshly thank women, when they do it.

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex, without fear of repercussions, so long as they keep it to the men's/women's show/locker room. Obviously this forum being a, public, education, mixed sex space, is not the appropriate time and place for this kind of behaviour.

Perhaps this thread should be closed.

Nope, that's not how life works. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm automatically gonna be onboard with another man making tasteless comments about women. That Trumpian locker room talk nonsense is just a poor excuse for acting like a fuckwit. If it's so important to you to be free to make tacky/tasteless comments you should be taking a good hard look at yourself, not whining about being oppressed.

How about when women do it? Is that alright? It's funny how only people get upset when men make these sorts of comments. It does appear as though misandry is really becoming more prevalent in modern society.

I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather some of the silly things, they might or might not have said. Actions speak louder than words.

[David Aurora]

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex

I agree, I would encourage anyone so inclined to make whatever misogynist, racist, anti-semitic or whatever comments to just go ahead and make them so I know not to associate with them or let them near my family/friends/etc. 

All meaningless words which are used all too often. . .

I couldn't care less. I'd rather associate with someone who has told a few naughty jokes and doesn't actually do anything wrong, than some emotionally unstable, virtue signalling puritan, who one can't  have a civil disagreement with.

People have always made tasteless comments about the opposites sex. Women do it just as much as men. The difference is nowadays men are treated more harshly thank women, when they do it.

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex, without fear of repercussions, so long as they keep it to the men's/women's show/locker room. Obviously this forum being a, public, education, mixed sex space, is not the appropriate time and place for this kind of behaviour.

Perhaps this thread should be closed.

Nope, that's not how life works. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm automatically gonna be onboard with another man making tasteless comments about women. That Trumpian locker room talk nonsense is just a poor excuse for acting like a fuckwit. If it's so important to you to be free to make tacky/tasteless comments you should be taking a good hard look at yourself, not whining about being oppressed.

How about when women do it? Is that alright? It's funny how only people get upset when men make these sorts of comments. It does appear as though misandry is really becoming more prevalent in modern society.

I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather some of the silly things, they might or might not have said. Actions speak louder than words.

You realise this oppression is all happening inside your own head right??

We've got a thread here where people are calling some unknown woman a thieving hooker, one douchebag banging on about how all women are sluts who lie about it, and you're having a cry because *checks notes* you were told that if you say fucked up things you might get called out on it.

[EEVblog]

That is not what this topic was about so lets get back to topic or just leave it.

OK, the answer to the OP's actual question is simple.  Go to your local pawn shop and see what sort of stuff they have.  Power tools, jewelry, audio equipment, musical instruments, watches, etc.  Then add in the obvious things like Rolex watches, cash, credit cards, gold, etc.  Those are the things that will attract the attention of random riff-raff you've accidentally let in the house.  But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was.

I have wondered what would happen if a random thief broke into my lab, I suspect they'd only steal the computer RAM, the dumpster iMacs, the cameras, and my giant knife. They'd have no idea what anything else is or what it does or how much it's worth.

[Xena E]

Recent break in at work, the lab that has perhaps £3M worth of equipment lost just *one* handheld multimeter, (not even a particularly valuable one either), the thievery was concentrated on the engineering shop and even there just took cordless tool batteries, a few hundred kg of enamel copper wire, tape and bar.

They just wanted stuff they can shift quickly without trace.

As for the TS, seriously, it's ludicrous! Why would anyone be in that mindset in the first place? Most people are basically decent, and if there's any doubt about them, you just wouldn't entertain the notion of associating with them in the first instance if you have any sense.

And I'm picturing a house/apartment where the living space is just filled with technocrap, (I'm not judging), people who live like that generally don't have, (or want), spouses, partners, or, lovers.

[pcprogrammer]

I have wondered what would happen if a random thief broke into my lab, I suspect they'd only steal the computer RAM, the dumpster iMacs, the cameras, and my giant knife. They'd have no idea what anything else is or what it does or how much it's worth.

A random thief, often a junkie, most likely will only take small stuff that can be easily carried and sold, but when targeted your lab will look empty afterwards. 

Both will cost you an arm and a leg. The random one may make quite a mess while trying to get in and damage stuff while searching for what is worthy to them. In the targeted case, the entry might be clean, but with an empty lab, the cost is evident.

I once had a break in my car. The bastard used a road sign pole to smash in the window and with it damaged the driver seat. The side of it was pushed in quite a bit. Nothing was taken, because there was nothing of value in the car. 

[NE666]

I have wondered what would happen if a random thief broke into my lab

They should be targeting the dumpster room. Why steal just one golden egg when you can take the dumpster that laid it?

[Zero999]

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex

I agree, I would encourage anyone so inclined to make whatever misogynist, racist, anti-semitic or whatever comments to just go ahead and make them so I know not to associate with them or let them near my family/friends/etc. 

All meaningless words which are used all too often. . .

I couldn't care less. I'd rather associate with someone who has told a few naughty jokes and doesn't actually do anything wrong, than some emotionally unstable, virtue signalling puritan, who one can't  have a civil disagreement with.

People have always made tasteless comments about the opposites sex. Women do it just as much as men. The difference is nowadays men are treated more harshly thank women, when they do it.

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex, without fear of repercussions, so long as they keep it to the men's/women's show/locker room. Obviously this forum being a, public, education, mixed sex space, is not the appropriate time and place for this kind of behaviour.

Perhaps this thread should be closed.

Nope, that's not how life works. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm automatically gonna be onboard with another man making tasteless comments about women. That Trumpian locker room talk nonsense is just a poor excuse for acting like a fuckwit. If it's so important to you to be free to make tacky/tasteless comments you should be taking a good hard look at yourself, not whining about being oppressed.

How about when women do it? Is that alright? It's funny how only people get upset when men make these sorts of comments. It does appear as though misandry is really becoming more prevalent in modern society.

I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather some of the silly things, they might or might not have said. Actions speak louder than words.

You realise this oppression is all happening inside your own head right??

We've got a thread here where people are calling some unknown woman a thieving hooker, one douchebag banging on about how all women are sluts who lie about it, and you're having a cry because *checks notes* you were told that if you say fucked up things you might get called out on it.

I bet you and others wouldn't complaining if he was saying the same things about a man.

As far as generalising is concerned, no one did that and even if they did, then that doesn't make that person bad. If a man has had a lot of problems with women i.e. cheating on him, then he probably will think all women are like that. Women do the same. My sister is divorced and has made plenty of unfair generalisations about men.

The point is, that one should be very careful about who they allow into their home, whether they're male or female. If someone appears to be dodgy, for whatever reason, then the chances are they are. One should trust their gut feelings.

[Gyro]

That is not what this topic was about so lets get back to topic or just leave it.

OK, the answer to the OP's actual question is simple.  Go to your local pawn shop and see what sort of stuff they have.  Power tools, jewelry, audio equipment, musical instruments, watches, etc.  Then add in the obvious things like Rolex watches, cash, credit cards, gold, etc.  Those are the things that will attract the attention of random riff-raff you've accidentally let in the house.  But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was.

I have wondered what would happen if a random thief broke into my lab, I suspect they'd only steal the computer RAM, the dumpster iMacs, the cameras, and my giant knife. They'd have no idea what anything else is or what it does or how much it's worth.

One office I worked in, a nice old building partitioned into two by the landlord, with a fire door between them upstairs. The other office was vacant and the local druggies had broken in and set up a den. One weekend they busted through the fire door while our cleaner was there. She walked into the room, screamed and they ran for it. The only thing they got away with was a pair of one of the S/W engineer's work trousers which were hung over the back of his chair. Maybe that was what they had the greatest need for!

[David Aurora]

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex

I agree, I would encourage anyone so inclined to make whatever misogynist, racist, anti-semitic or whatever comments to just go ahead and make them so I know not to associate with them or let them near my family/friends/etc. 

All meaningless words which are used all too often. . .

I couldn't care less. I'd rather associate with someone who has told a few naughty jokes and doesn't actually do anything wrong, than some emotionally unstable, virtue signalling puritan, who one can't  have a civil disagreement with.

People have always made tasteless comments about the opposites sex. Women do it just as much as men. The difference is nowadays men are treated more harshly thank women, when they do it.

Everyone should be able to make such tacky comments about the opposite sex, without fear of repercussions, so long as they keep it to the men's/women's show/locker room. Obviously this forum being a, public, education, mixed sex space, is not the appropriate time and place for this kind of behaviour.

Perhaps this thread should be closed.

Nope, that's not how life works. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I'm automatically gonna be onboard with another man making tasteless comments about women. That Trumpian locker room talk nonsense is just a poor excuse for acting like a fuckwit. If it's so important to you to be free to make tacky/tasteless comments you should be taking a good hard look at yourself, not whining about being oppressed.

How about when women do it? Is that alright? It's funny how only people get upset when men make these sorts of comments. It does appear as though misandry is really becoming more prevalent in modern society.

I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather some of the silly things, they might or might not have said. Actions speak louder than words.

You realise this oppression is all happening inside your own head right??

We've got a thread here where people are calling some unknown woman a thieving hooker, one douchebag banging on about how all women are sluts who lie about it, and you're having a cry because *checks notes* you were told that if you say fucked up things you might get called out on it.

I bet you and others wouldn't complaining if he was saying the same things about a man.

As far as generalising is concerned, no one did that and even if they did, then that doesn't make that person bad. If a man has had a lot of problems with women i.e. cheating on him, then he probably will think all women are like that. Women do the same. My sister is divorced and has made plenty of unfair generalisations about men.

The point is, that one should be very careful about who they allow into their home, whether they're male or female. If someone appears to be dodgy, for whatever reason, then the chances are they are. One should trust their gut feelings.

You're proving my point- that's a hypothetical situation that only exists in your own head. If you want to start a separate discussion to talk shit about men go for it.

People most certainly DID make generalisations, and yeah, it does make them bad. I don't care if you schtick is "All women..." or "All people from..." or whatever, it's small minded outdated shit that belongs in the bin. Time to grow up.

[EEVblog]

A random thief, often a junkie, most likely will only take small stuff that can be easily carried and sold, but when targeted your lab will look empty afterwards. 

I've heard that if thieves happen upon a place with lots of good stuff then they will wait a month or two and target the same place again, because they know they would have replaced the stuff with brand new perhaps even better stuff.
But not more than once extra, because then the owner might have wised up and gotten extra security after the 2nd break in.

[Xena E]

A random thief, often a junkie, most likely will only take small stuff that can be easily carried and sold, but when targeted your lab will look empty afterwards. 

I've heard that if thieves happen upon a place with lots of good stuff then they will wait a month or two and target the same place again, because they know they would have replaced the stuff with brand new perhaps even better stuff.
But not more than once extra, because then the owner might have wised up and gotten extra security after the 2nd break in.

Yes! That's a known thing... Also, we were asked by police after the work break-in if any unexplained occurrences had happened in the previous few weeks, like windows being broken or door locks being bumped, but nothing being taken... classic signs of a professional thief casing the joint.

We were visited by the metal thieves. 10 minutes, two guys, van with tape over the plates, no mess, and minimal damage.

Then there's the classic 'inside job'. Something expensive gets moved from storage, but left on the premises, if it's not questioned or noticed, then later quietly disappears.

Or the classic, someone leaves the job, something valuable walks... most often not the person who has left!

High end lab gear would fall into the category of equipment most likely only stolen to order IMO, it's just not as sought after , and therefore as easy to sell like phones, laptops, watches etc.

[exe]

But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was.

What, thefts don't know how to use AI?

[EEVblog]

But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was.

What, thefts don't know how to use AI?

In a smash and grab the golden rule is spend as little time in there as possible. Grab what you can and get out. That means cash, jewelry, and products you know will get you something at the local cash converters, like computers and cameras. Recently people have only been stealing RAM!
You don't want to be there Grokking every product number on obscure bits of kit you have no clue what they do.

[temperance]

What, thefts don't know how to use AI?

An AI driven app for burglars. You film the place and it tells you what to take with you. Anyone interested?

[Smokey]

But you could have a $100k spectrum analyzer or an original Renoir and they wouldn't even give it a second look unless you told them what it was.

What, thefts don't know how to use AI?

...
You don't want to be there Grokking every product number on obscure bits of kit you have no clue what they do.

That's me at the local electronics swap meet when I come across something I don't recognize or don't have a good sense of how much it should cost.  Lots of standing around staring at my phone doing ebay "sold items" price comparisons.

[Smokey]

What, thefts don't know how to use AI?

An AI driven app for burglars. You film the place and it tells you what to take with you. Anyone interested?

Augmented Reality for burglars= BurglAR?

[exe]

That's me at the local electronics swap meet when I come across something I don't recognize or don't have a good sense of how much it should cost.  Lots of standing around staring at my phone doing ebay "sold items" price comparisons.

It also works the other way around, I mean resellers do the same. That's why we can't have good prices(