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...QuoteECO-GEN Energy welcomes all visitors to its facility in Van Nuys, California and to our manufacturing plant in Paramount, CA to witness the fourth generation of renewable energy generation and will make available to all visitors full comprehensive documentation and other supporting materials that prove the capability of this revolutionary new power plant technology.Anybody local ?
"Real-time satellite monitoring with GPS."
If they say in the first line "Solar Panels (not shown) and DC Generators D constantly charge the batteries." how does one arrive at an overunity conclusion?
It seems a silly contraption but that's not overunity. The hallmark of overunity is to conceal the input energy source. Unless you want to be deceived by having it hidden in plain sight.
- Measures 8 ft x 5.5 ft x 7 ft
- Weighs approximately 5,000 lb
- Requires only 4 solar panels
- Typical power output 525,600 kWh/year (= 60 kW 24/7)
I'm not interested in debating whether or not it is a pile of crap. All I am saying is that because they show a picture of the Sun as an energy input it is not fair to lambast it as overunity.
It is wrong, and that ought to be a sufficient reason to not label it overunity. Once you attempt to criticise something for something it does not claim to be, you diminish your own credibility.
Or if you prefer the BS analogy. A pile of shit stinks sufficiently for there to be no reason to claim it stinks more than a pile of shit.
Once you attempt to criticise something for something it does not claim to be, you diminish your own credibility.
The JouleBox® is designed to run continuously and only turned off once per year for scheduled maintenance, regardless if there is any sunlight for the solar panels.
The 3 – 40 HP motors use <200 watts per horsepower or <24 kW total for all 3.
The picture had a Sun in it as an input energy source. It is not overunity. That's all I am arguing against. I think I made my point pretty well.
Debating this particular device is just a complete waste of time and energy. Not worth the threadspace.
And @IanB, my statement was intended as a general one and not specifically aimed at you. Your post just provided a handy hook to attach to. I'm putting the blame for this pointless thread squarely on Dave. I do not think he should have used the term overunity.
Do you think you can get 1,440 kWh in a day from 4 solar panels?
Of course they could be wildly exaggerating the numbers and simply making false claims to sucker people.
But in case you doubt me, look at their functional block diagram (captured here for posterity):
I'm not interested in debating whether or not it is a pile of crap. All I am saying is that because they show a picture of the Sun as an energy input it is not fair to lambast it as overunity.
It is wrong, and that ought to be a sufficient reason to not label it overunity. Once you attempt to criticise something for something it does not claim to be, you diminish your own credibility.
Or if you prefer the BS analogy. A pile of shit stinks sufficiently for there to be no reason to claim it stinks more than a pile of shit.
Do you think you can get 1,440 kWh in a day from 4 solar panels?
Of course they could be wildly exaggerating the numbers and simply making false claims to sucker people.
But in case you doubt me, look at their functional block diagram (captured here for posterity):
I'm not interested in debating whether or not it is a pile of crap. All I am saying is that because they show a picture of the Sun as an energy input it is not fair to lambast it as overunity.
It is wrong, and that ought to be a sufficient reason to not label it overunity. Once you attempt to criticise something for something it does not claim to be, you diminish your own credibility.
Or if you prefer the BS analogy. A pile of shit stinks sufficiently for there to be no reason to claim it stinks more than a pile of shit.
whether or not it is a pile of crap ! that's it crap is the missing ingredient. poop from a toilet methane gas .
so if want a shit load of power then you need a lot of shit or poop from the septic system.
Do you think you can get 1,440 kWh in a day from 4 solar panels?
Of course they could be wildly exaggerating the numbers and simply making false claims to sucker people.
But in case you doubt me, look at their functional block diagram (captured here for posterity):
I'm not interested in debating whether or not it is a pile of crap. All I am saying is that because they show a picture of the Sun as an energy input it is not fair to lambast it as overunity.
It is wrong, and that ought to be a sufficient reason to not label it overunity. Once you attempt to criticise something for something it does not claim to be, you diminish your own credibility.
Or if you prefer the BS analogy. A pile of shit stinks sufficiently for there to be no reason to claim it stinks more than a pile of shit.
I'm sorry, but the picture and other statements clearly claim that a motor with 8 kW going into it can produce an output of 30 kW. That is clearly and plainly a claim of overunity.
it has a typical power output of 525,600 kWh per year
Let's see. 525 600 kWh x 3.6 MJ/kWh = 1 892 160 MJ
Number of seconds in a year = 365.25 * 24 * 3600 = 31 557 600 s
Average power output = 1 892 160 MJ / 31 557 600 s = 0.059959 MW = 60 kW
ECO-GEN Energy welcomes all visitors to its facility in Van Nuys, California and to our manufacturing plant in Paramount, CA to witness the fourth generation of renewable energy generation and will make available to all visitors full comprehensive documentation and other supporting materials that prove the capability of this revolutionary new power plant technology.
"The JouleBox® is a hybrid electricity generator developed by EcoGen Energy that produce clean energy 24/7/365"
Er .. shouldn't that be "24/365" or "24/7/52" or something?
(or "24/365.2425" or "24/7/52.1775")
Flash web site.
"The JouleBox® is a hybrid electricity generator developed by EcoGen Energy that produce clean energy 24/7/365"
Er .. shouldn't that be "24/365" or "24/7/52" or something?
(or "24/365.2425" or "24/7/52.1775")
Flash web site.
"24/7/365" is not incorrect, at least in the US that is a commonly used term meaning 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
Doesn't make the product any less BS but that particular statement is fine.
Designed by a creditable team of clean energy experts
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Bullshit?
I'm not so sure.
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