Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)

[Monkeh]

oh, well the last options i looked at on my server looked like Mysql was no longer being developed.

That's not even jumping to conclusions, it's launching rockets at them.

[Simon]

just saying, I had a list of versions - as it is I needed to upgrade but even the latest version said that it was at end of life in february.

[HoracioDos]

I'm having a very relaxed friday afternoon so I had time to read reddit AMA talk with Nat Friedman. He said that as Microsoft has a huge sales force. Money will come from customers that are out of reach to GitHub right now. It seems to be a very simple plan for a 7.5B acquisition. Now Jim Zemlin from Linux Fundation said that It is all good news. Nothing to worry about. Am I under the influence of too much chamomile tea?

[Simon]

The last thing it will harm is linux

[bd139]

Microsoft is a massive sponsor of the Linux foundation. Linux foundation is basically a large paid up lobbying group built by large manufacturers and users of Linux. They use it to force change where possible.

However Linus despite being paid by them isn’t having any of that shit and generally goes in the right direction. However you have to wonder what will happen inevitably when he’s not at the helm one day in the future.

[Simon]

WinLux ? WinuX ?

[bd139]

It’s already been done and I use it daily. Basically ELF loader, MMU support and syscall translation runtime that replaces Linux kernel with NT and file system with a virtualised NTFS.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux

[Simon]

Sorry LinDows then, we need it the other way around.

[bd139]

I’m good with that one. 

[Marco]

It seems to be a very simple plan for a 7.5B acquisition.

No sabotage of github to harm open source can be worth anything near that either, it's too trivial to stop using github. The most valuable part of Github are its enterprise customers, that's where Microsoft will have to earn it back and it probably won't rock the boat to endanger that. I'm sure they will try to make it attractive for those enterprise customers to use the wider Microsoft ecosystem, but I don't see how they could accomplish that by sabotage either.

I expect quality of life improvements for customers to test and put into production code for Azure for instance, that is no skin off the back of existing users. If they harm github it will almost certainly be due to incompetence rather than malice.

[Simon]

yes the same sort of incompetence that is driving users away from hotmail because they can't cope with a server move.....

[HoracioDos]

Microsoft is a massive sponsor of the Linux foundation. Linux foundation is basically a large paid up lobbying group built by large manufacturers and users of Linux. They use it to force change where possible.

I see what you mean. I was thinking, if your company is into AI, Machine Learning, Robotics, Cryptography, Blockchain, etc. Will you have your code hosted outside premises. It would be interesting to read opinions from them. In every big company I worked for source code was never outside.

[HoracioDos]

It seems to be a very simple plan for a 7.5B acquisition.

The most valuable part of Github are its enterprise customers, that's where Microsoft will have to earn it back and it probably won't rock the boat to endanger that. I'm sure they will try to make it attractive for those enterprise customers to use the wider Microsoft ecosystem, but I don't see how they could accomplish that by sabotage either.

I agree. I'm just surprised about how they will do such amount of money or get profit with enterprise customers. Also I read somewhere that GitHub raised 250M from a second investment round and they are burning money as crazy ones.

[bd139]

Microsoft is a massive sponsor of the Linux foundation. Linux foundation is basically a large paid up lobbying group built by large manufacturers and users of Linux. They use it to force change where possible.

I see what you mean. I was thinking, if your company is into AI, Machine Learning, Robotics, Cryptography, Blockchain, etc. Will you have your code hosted outside premises. It would be interesting to read opinions from them. In every big company I worked for source code was never outside.

Some really big financials use it. You’d be surprised.

Really Microsoft don’t want your IP. It’s as safe there as it is in your office. They want market domination and want you tied to a subscription because that’s guaranteed cash flow for them. GitHub is another little revenue stream and dependency which is hard for you to shake off.

Edit: just popped into my head. MS wants to be your pimp and wants you to be the crack whore.

[Simon]

Edit: just popped into my head. MS wants to be your pimp and wants you to be the crack whore.

That is a perfect description of what most corporates want.

[Marco]

I agree. I'm just surprised about how they will do such amount of money or get profit with enterprise customers.

If it can shift the balance between Amazon and Azure by say 10% for a couple of years they can earn it back pretty quickly, not sure github integration in and of itself could improve the value of Azure that much ... but maybe?

PS. Github will provide local repositories for their enterprise customers, or on cloud "servers" "owned" by the enterprise.

[VK3DRB]

I use Altium 18 with GIT. It is buggy, so I am considering going back to SVN. Microsoft taking over GIT in will just break it completely, like they did with Skype.

[Simon]

hahahahahahahahahaha Altium using a MS service.... perfect, they are made for each other, one as shit as the other, you just won't notice the difference.....

[nugglix]

I use Altium 18 with GIT. It is buggy, so I am considering going back to SVN. Microsoft taking over GIT in will just break it completely, like they did with Skype.

Github != git

git is free and open source.
github is a service provided by a company.

Don't mix them up!

[bd139]

SVN is still better for on disk formats that can’t be merged due to centralised locking being possible.

[Beamin]

Developers are hired by dum managers that want an easy life. Support staff are not always the sharpest and often work off a script, the more platform combinations you serve the harder the inevitable support is. Solid edge will only support the latest version on windows 10 and even then you are lucky if they acknowledge you have found yet another bug. I had a problem with lack of consistency in how their software did display background colours with the main software and the viewer doing 2 different things. Unsurprisingly they have ditched the viewer......

So frustrating  when you need something done on the other end like comcast or Verizon and you have to explain to them how to do their job.


I once tried to download MS flight simulator from Microsoft and pay for it and there was something wrong with their server I reluctantly let them control my computer and the person tried to download the program from third party site because microsoft's site wasn't working and I had to explain to them I specifically wanted alegit copy not some free site that puts malware on your computer.


The final solution with three different tech support people was to try another internet connection; IE switch ISP's and have them come out to the house install new FIOS or comcast hardware etc. REALLY? OK let me just payoff my contract spend a day waiting for the installer to change everything then when I try to download, and guess what? That wouldn't have worked if I was dumb enough to try because their server wasn't working. It's like they think that any problem is user error or someone elses network. I could never get that download to work.


Or I needed to do a hard reset on my nook because it was unusable  and five minutes into the phone call I realized the person had never even touched a nook. Not their fault a nook costs two months pay but seriously the most their training is, is a cardboard cut out and a flow chart of problems? Deviate one step and the whole thing breaks down because the person could not say the phrase "I don't know I have never used a nook before".
"Using one finger of your right hand press once on the button located at the bottom of your barnes and noble brand nook color wireless e reader. Now using one finger of your right hand press the slide bar over located at the bottom of your barnes and noble brand nook color wireless e reader."

"Stop saying that! Just call it a nook or device! This isn't a commercial."

Everything is dumbed down I liked it better when the dumb people had to catch up.

[GlennSprigg]

This 'News' is shocking !!!!!!
'Microsoft' have always liked to 'Control' everything.....
They didn't 'Get-It' when the real free Internet as we know it first started, and they decided
to start their own "M.S.N." which was doomed for what it stood for....
They couldn't stand having say... 'Javascript' unleashed on the 'World', so they HAD to try
to 'force' their OWN version, 'VBScript', and tried to make 'Browsers' adhere to THEM !!
They CAN NOT ACCEPT that there are FREE services, that go BEYOND THEM !!!!!
Now taking over 'Github' ??.... sigh.......

[Nominal Animal]

Everything is dumbed down I liked it better when the dumb people had to catch up.

There is too many of us them dumb ones nowadays.

To be honest, I would prefer the world to have some non-human sharp edges, so that the most stupid and violent ones would, uh, easily find a way to remove themselves from the population. Even if I belonged to the unfortunate group myself. That sort of a world would be much more interesting than the one we have, what with current rules being apparently designed for the lowest common denominator: those with no impulse control or self-control..

I still recall my reaction when I first saw a repetitive strain injury warning printed on a keyboard between cursor keys and the numpad. Until that point, I thought the story about the old granny who dried her cat after a bath in a microwave, was an urban legend.

[Simon]

Yes the world has become a boring place and the stupid need protecting. our evolution is in fact going backwards.

[bd139]

Perhaps as engineers we need to make things more lethal again