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How do you think this will effect GitHub?

Good, github won't have to worry about keeping it's lights on.
27 (20.5%)
This won't really change anything
18 (13.6%)
This will be bad for github.
62 (47%)
This changes everything. Deleting my account.
24 (18.2%)
BRB, Starting a petition.
1 (0.8%)

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Offline Nominal Animal

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #200 on: June 14, 2018, 08:29:28 pm »
Don't know if they fixed it but it sucked balls and I'm glad it was only a small part of the business.
I'm using extremely heavy filtering in Thunderbird to reduce the effort required to keep up with email, and also to minimize email-related stress. (For example, I do not have any alerts enabled at all.)
I am also one of those users who use a browser with NoScript and AdBlock extensions, with a lot of custom rules.  I have to; if they didn't exist, I'd have to write them myself, to be able to participate.
I do try (hard!) to pay back/forward by being useful/helpful, but me fail often hard ouch.

Apparently it was github but MSFT like to fuck up stuff so we’re doing history lessons, analogies and future predictions too.
Yep. Opinions as such don't really matter, because everyone has their own anyway.

It is the reasons behind those opinions, when they are based on real-world events and experiences, that do matter, because they may prove useful for others.  I personally deleted my GitHub account, because I do not trust Microsoft (to not create gotchas, vendor lock-in traps, or crippled tools enterprise users have to use). I do believe it is also important to realize mistrust != hate and mistrust != dislike, because that mistrust has a long history -- essentially the entire history of Microsoft is full of reasons why not to trust it.

Many people accept Microsoft behaviour as "par for the course", but I disagree.  I do not hate the company, really: I mistrust them and do not approve of their business tactics.  I do hope they'd change, but I'm not expecting them to.  It is like the fact that almost a third of large IT projects in Finland fail, producing no useable results.  That, to me, is huge waste of resources, and should not be acceptable to anyone, definitely not anyone paying their taxes.  It really infuriates me when people just shrug and ignore it as something outside their ken.  Even worse, I am seeing that kind of acceptance of loss of resources creeping to stuff outside IT, too: basically to everything more complex than a reality TV episode.

Of course, we are just speculating as to what the Github purchase means in the short-term, medium-term, and long-term future, especially for heavy/enterprise Github users (as hobby users probably will not be affected). But I understood that this thread exists for such speculation?
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #201 on: June 14, 2018, 09:29:24 pm »
Don't know if they fixed it but it sucked balls and I'm glad it was only a small part of the business.
I'm using extremely heavy filtering in Thunderbird to reduce the effort required to keep up with email, and also to minimize email-related stress. (For example, I do not have any alerts enabled at all.)
I am also one of those users who use a browser with NoScript and AdBlock extensions, with a lot of custom rules.  I have to; if they didn't exist, I'd have to write them myself, to be able to participate.
I do try (hard!) to pay back/forward by being useful/helpful, but me fail often hard ouch.

Apparently it was github but MSFT like to fuck up stuff so we’re doing history lessons, analogies and future predictions too.
Yep. Opinions as such don't really matter, because everyone has their own anyway.

It is the reasons behind those opinions, when they are based on real-world events and experiences, that do matter, because they may prove useful for others.  I personally deleted my GitHub account, because I do not trust Microsoft (to not create gotchas, vendor lock-in traps, or crippled tools enterprise users have to use). I do believe it is also important to realize mistrust != hate and mistrust != dislike, because that mistrust has a long history -- essentially the entire history of Microsoft is full of reasons why not to trust it.

Many people accept Microsoft behaviour as "par for the course", but I disagree.  I do not hate the company, really: I mistrust them and do not approve of their business tactics.  I do hope they'd change, but I'm not expecting them to.  It is like the fact that almost a third of large IT projects in Finland fail, producing no useable results.  That, to me, is huge waste of resources, and should not be acceptable to anyone, definitely not anyone paying their taxes.  It really infuriates me when people just shrug and ignore it as something outside their ken.  Even worse, I am seeing that kind of acceptance of loss of resources creeping to stuff outside IT, too: basically to everything more complex than a reality TV episode.

Of course, we are just speculating as to what the Github purchase means in the short-term, medium-term, and long-term future, especially for heavy/enterprise Github users (as hobby users probably will not be affected). But I understood that this thread exists for such speculation?

Finland?

You had Nokia,... well, it has returned now.,. kinda.

But I still use my Jolla as my cellphone, 4.5+ years later.,,.


I live in Barcelona, Spain. We have toros, paella and ole.,,.

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #202 on: June 14, 2018, 10:22:33 pm »
You had Nokia,...
It was a fluke, a happy accident.

Things like the Apotti project are more Finnish in style. They've budgeted 575 M€ (385 M€ for IT part) for something Estonia (about 1/5th the size of Finland) successfully implemented for 20 M€.  My prediction, based on how similar but smaller projects have been implemented in Finland in the last 30 years or so, is that it will balloon to over 1 G€, then left in partially-implemented limbo with higher yearly costs than currently, plus that 1 G€ written completely off as a loss.  The project leaders get no backlash at all for the failure, and the media will treat them with silk gloves.  It is a pretty big deal, considering the entire government budget is only 56 G€/year or so.
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #203 on: June 17, 2018, 07:47:22 pm »
Outlook is not great.

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