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Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« on: February 10, 2021, 04:51:13 am »
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2021, 05:09:37 am »
Yes, the phaseout of lead continues. They've been steadily working on it for 20 years, so I'm not sure why it's a huge surprise.

E: And yes, you can still get lead flashing as an exception exists for it.
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2021, 05:28:20 am »
You kinda look like Dave Gahan.
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2021, 11:48:00 am »
Edit: This is from may 2019.
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2021, 11:55:25 am »
And you're not even living in EU... those fuckturd want to even ban lead ammunition. (To be replaced by much more dangerous steel one)
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2021, 12:15:18 pm »
CPC/Farnell aren't, as yet, refusing as far as I can tell.

Wonder how difficult it is to get 'professional' status?
 

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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 02:04:15 pm »

Wonder how difficult it is to get 'professional' status?

I'm just praying it'll be as simple as a certificate of incorporation or VAT registration.
If they go the same way as lead paint, dichloromethane or corrosive chemicals then it'll be a training course or third party certification... or the most annoying option of all, needing to supply a "business only address".. which is an absolute PITA when you work from a residential address!
 

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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2021, 02:34:17 pm »
Rapid say 'account holders only'.
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2021, 03:26:54 pm »
And you're not even living in EU... those fuckturd want to even ban lead ammunition. (To be replaced by much more dangerous steel one)

And by what metric do you consider steel ammuniton 'much more dangerous'?
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2021, 05:40:57 pm »
Does RS have a choice, if the 'reach' legislation/regulation they refer to is valid?
 

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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2021, 05:47:57 pm »
Just buy it on eBay. No one gives a fuck there!
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2021, 06:35:59 pm »
I've already bought a lifetime supply of lead solder. I'm set.
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2021, 07:37:50 pm »
And you're not even living in EU... those fuckturd want to even ban lead ammunition. (To be replaced by much more dangerous steel one)

I'll have to switch to the depleted uranium ammunition they use in the A-10.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2021, 08:13:01 pm »
those fuckturd want to even ban lead ammunition. (To be replaced by much more dangerous steel one)
It just makes sense to ban lead ammunition in applications where it pollutes the environment and endangers wildlife.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2021, 09:05:09 pm »
Apparently from 1 Mar 2018, sale of lead metal ( excluding roofing sheet, batteries or ammunition) is banned to consumers :
https://ila-reach.org/2018/01/new-restrictions-and-labelling-requirements-affect-lead-from-march-1-2018/
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2021, 09:35:33 pm »
And you're not even living in EU... those fuckturd want to even ban lead ammunition. (To be replaced by much more dangerous steel one)
The amounts of lead released into the environment through ammunition far, far, far, far, far exceeds what is released through electronics. It absolutely makes sense to switch ammo to something else.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2021, 12:51:43 am »
I ordered some the other day, and also a pair of tweezers to get free postage (final price was within pennies).

They removed the solder from the order without telling me and charged me postage on the tweezers I did not need.

I complained stating I would not accept the tweezers, had not agreed to pay postage, and I only wanted the solder.

The solder was posted to me and I now have 500g of 60Sn/38Pb/2Cu 0.7mm solder, and some mediocre tweezers.

Should last a while.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 06:23:37 am »
I've been using lead free solder for everything (down to 0201 SMD) for 15 years.  Give it a shot!  It's not much, if any, more difficult and you can eat pizza while soldering with no worries!


 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2021, 10:41:15 am »
You can eat pizza equally well while working with leaded solder. While regulated (and monitored to some extent), all food, drinks and drinking water contain some lead. FDA says daily maximum intake for an adult to 12.5 µg/day. There is no way handling the metallic solder with your hands, then touching food with the hands unwashed would cause material to transfer in this amount. With solder paste, I would be much more careful.

OTOH, if you are concerned about health effects, you should be really paying attention to the flux used in the solder. There are differences, and anecdotal comments always mention lead-free solder containing a more harmful flux. Whether this is actually true or not, I don't know, but it's worth spending your investigative time and energy on if you are concerned about health (which is obviously a good idea).
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2021, 12:44:27 pm »
As children, we smashed old batteries, shook the plates out of them with our bare hands, and melted them on the bonfire...  8)

My generation is not impressed by anything. But people are getting weaker and more afraid of everything.  :-//
And sorry for my English.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2021, 01:02:21 pm »
As children, we smashed old batteries, shook the plates out of them with our bare hands, and melted them on the bonfire...  8)

My generation is not impressed by anything. But people are getting weaker and more afraid of everything.  :-//

Well...:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=RU

And for us, European Fucktards:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=EU
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2021, 01:19:00 pm »
As children, we smashed old batteries, shook the plates out of them with our bare hands, and melted them on the bonfire...  8)

My generation is not impressed by anything. But people are getting weaker and more afraid of everything.  :-//

Well...:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=RU

And for us, European Fucktards:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=EU

It is not a fact that the lead from the battery affected this...  :)
We have many problems worse than lead. By the way, not so long ago in Russia, newspapers were printed with lead-containing paint. About 30-40 years ago.

And I am not inclined to believe implicitly any sources at the same time. We often see inaccuracies and even deception.  :)

And sorry for my English.
 
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2021, 01:47:59 pm »
As children, we smashed old batteries, shook the plates out of them with our bare hands, and melted them on the bonfire...  8)

My generation is not impressed by anything. But people are getting weaker and more afraid of everything.  :-//

No, people are getting stronger by eliminating completely unnecessary toxins.

"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is utter bullshit. Of course in some isolated cases it is true but generally (especially regarding biologically cumulative toxins), nope.

You can read about the effects of lead at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning

Re being afraid, it's also easier to live when you don't need to be afraid about something that has been removed.

Really, 1900's was quite crappy century toxin-wise. A lot of shit we don't really need and which actually affects our health. Your (and mine) generation may not remember because things started to get better already in 1990's. Worst was before that. Asbestos alone was a killer, and these were really painful deaths. Good riddance.

The flipside of better life is that some people get oversensitive to smaller and smaller things. But that's a completely different matter. We didn't poison ourselves 10 000 years ago, and don't need to do it now in order not to be "oversensitive".
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Re: Really RS Components, I am not allowed to order solder anymore??
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2021, 02:27:22 pm »

Wonder how difficult it is to get 'professional' status?

I'm just praying it'll be as simple as a certificate of incorporation or VAT registration.
If they go the same way as lead paint, dichloromethane or corrosive chemicals then it'll be a training course or third party certification... or the most annoying option of all, needing to supply a "business only address".. which is an absolute PITA when you work from a residential address!

In our country, it seems all you need is a license number (in fact you can be a freelaancer - with your own VAT number, but you still need to register a license for electricals, meaning you need at least an official electrical education -  meaning a random Joe can't get that kind of license).
 


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