Font with special character sought

[TerraHertz]

maybe this is of help... i created a quick and dirty ttf font with just that glyph roughly following the image from wikipedia on the 'B' character. It' sometimes easier to do this rather than editing existing fonts

looking around there seems to be many variations on the style

Pity that's not the glyph Neomys Sapiens wants. See https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/font-with-special-character-sought/msg1587283/#msg1587283  - the 3 page spec doc he posted.  The true name of the glyph is "pheon".

Also, what tool are you using for font editing?  (Nevermind: "Generated by Fontographer 4.1" in the binary.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontographer
https://old.fontlab.com/font-editor/fontographer/    US$408.99    Ouch, out of my reach.

I'd really like to hear comments on the quality and clarity of utils other than Fontforge, which is a can of disorganised worms.  For a purpose I have (unrelated to Neomys' glyph needs), I'd actually pay money for a general font editor that works and has decent documentation.

[dexters_lab]

ahh sorry i thought we wanted the one from wiki

i can follow the design rules in that scan, it shouldn't be a problem to change it. It will have to be tomorrow now though as i'm off to work in a bit

i'm using a very very old windows app called Fontographer (Macromedia/Adobe), it's old and a bit clunky but it works fine for doing quick stuff like this... back in the day when i was working for a software company i modified a monotype font for a terminal emulation app and used it to make custom characters, alter hinting information and the like.

[dexters_lab]

ok, i think it should be right now. The bars are parallel, L/10 and at 60deg

bitmap, TTF font and EPS versions in the attached zip

[GlennSprigg]

In answer to my prior offering, to 'Neomys Sapiens', I've made a temp Font for you !!
Instead of incorporating it within the Font you supplied me, (tech reasons), I've created a new mostly
blank Font, with 2 versions of the 'BroadArrow'. One with sharp corners & one with rounded corners.
These are accessed purely by pressing the lowercase 'z' and 'x' keys.....

https://nosilverspoons.000webhostapp.com/eevblog/BroadArrows-zx.zip

I simply started with you original image file....

Edited that to create individual bitmaps, and then used them for 'tracing' in 'Vector' software.
I used that 'Vector' to import into the 'Font Glyph', as well as trying to 'trace' within 'FontForge'.
The result looks like this, in 'Wordpad'......


To 'TerraHertz' .....  (Re: your prior request to me), I am part way through creating a 'step by step'
description, but it is being based on the following......
I have/do use various software other than 'FontForge', like  'Studio-5 Font Studio', & 'High-Logic Font Creator'.
(For various reasons of power & functionality). My older version of 'FontForge' (which I was'nt keen on), was
way out of date, so I installed the latest version. I MAINLY did this, as I would need to supply info regarding
Free/OpenSource software only. This includes the in conjunction utilization of 'Adobe-Illustrator' for Vector
work, for which one can now substitute with the Free 'Inkscape' software !! for Font integration.
Hope you don't mind waiting another day or two.....

[GlennSprigg]

P.S.  ......  "Inkscape" (for 'Vector' creations) is now quite well advanced, and has a LOT of powerful
tools under the selections of  'Extensions', and off of that... 'Typography'.... saving a LOT of work....
However, it needs some detailed discussions/explanations, and then all is clear !!!!   

[Neomys Sapiens]

That's absolutely ok - except that I can't access it.
I'm getting a 'SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE'
What to do?
Got it and thank you very much!

[GlennSprigg]

Neomys Sapiens ...  Glad I could help.....
I'm curious about your (prior) error about.... "SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE"...
I used one of my temp servers for the data... Did you originally see the Images' at least ?

[GlennSprigg]

maybe this is of help... i created a quick and dirty ttf font with just that glyph roughly following the image from wikipedia on the 'B' character. It' sometimes easier to do this rather than editing existing fonts

looking around there seems to be many variations on the style

Pity that's not the glyph Neomys Sapiens wants. See https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/font-with-special-character-sought/msg1587283/#msg1587283  - the 3 page spec doc he posted.  The true name of the glyph is "pheon".
Also, what tool are you using for font editing?  (Nevermind: "Generated by Fontographer 4.1" in the binary.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontographer
https://old.fontlab.com/font-editor/fontographer/    US$408.99    Ouch, out of my reach.
I'd really like to hear comments on the quality and clarity of utils other than Fontforge, which is a can of disorganised worms.  For a purpose I have (unrelated to Neomys' glyph needs), I'd actually pay money for a general font editor that works and has decent documentation.

Would you still like the 'Step-By-Step' mate ?? It's covering all the basics, and all that needs considering. (At a simple level...)
I was compiling a '.pdf' file with all the basics, for you?....

[Neomys Sapiens]

Neomys Sapiens ...  Glad I could help.....
I'm curious about your (prior) error about.... "SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE"...
I used one of my temp servers for the data... Did you originally see the Images' at least ?

Can't be specific here, but it is a concurrency issue with multiple connections.

[TerraHertz]

Would you still like the 'Step-By-Step' mate ?? It's covering all the basics, and all that needs considering. (At a simple level...)
I was compiling a '.pdf' file with all the basics, for you?....

Thanks, but no rush. I'd still appreciate it if you could post it in this thread eventually when you're done, but since OP now has what he wants, my own fonts-adventure is no longer relevant to this thread.

I'm currently reading up on the truetype font file structure specs. Since the objective for me is to understand how all this works. Enough to build an extensive custom font of special symbols, to be loaded by html/JS files that construct a fascia of a virtual keyboard (and other instrument fascias.)
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goog: truetype font file format specification

http://www.truetype-typography.com/ttspec.htm
TrueType font files are made up of a number of tables, some mandatory (such as the 'glyf' table containing glyph outlines), others optional (like the 'kern' table). TrueType was designed this way to make the format extensible. Microsoft has taken full advantage of this in defining tables for the TrueType Open and, with Adobe, the OpenType initiative.


https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
TrueType and AAT
Specifications for the TrueType Font Format. Apple Advanced Typography (AAT) Font Feature Registry for advanced font rendering.
  Apple TrueType Reference Manual    https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/
                                                           Bah. One of those online, many pages html 'manuals'. Can't find a pdf of it.

http://lefonds.pagesperso-orange.fr/old/html_e/typo_efr.html
  typographical resources   (From 1998, but interesting historical info)

 ... and lots more.
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By the way, the fonts you created from the images in that document from Neomys Sapiens, do not conform with the actual content of those specification documents. The images are drawn 'too fat' and don't match the numerical dimensions shown on that same diagram.  See the photoshop screencap I posted earlier, in which the light gray background is that doc drawing, and the black foreground is the precisely calculated correct glyph. Accurate to about one pixel in 1000 overall glyph box. Ha ha, that must be the first time I've used trig functions on a calculator in quite a while.

The photoshop file: http://everist.org/pics/misc/Pheon_5.psd  4.2 MB  (photoshop 5.5)

[GlennSprigg]

Ok TerraHertz ...  I think I get the 'gist' of what you want to do....
and yea I guess I 'cheated' a bit by assuming the 'Page' he supplied was to scale... 
Regarding all the tech specs you mentioned... of course there is MUCH more to be considered
in creating a Commercially acceptable 'Font' and all that goes on 'behind-the-scenes' 
I just tried to keep it as simple as I could, for what was asked.....
Keep in mind though, 'cubic' 'glyphs' don't have to adhere to ALL the specs, like 'Wingdings' etc.
And if you are working within HTML/JS, remember that the 'new' standard for 'Web' based Fonts
is the new '.woff' standard. All modern packages can convert to this, from '.ttf' etc....
To explain to others, (assuming you already know...), this means that 'Font' references can be
made to your Website server/page (.woff file) without being installed on one's 'System'.

[TerraHertz]

You don't actually _have_ to use WOFF for loadable web fonts.  It works with TTF/OTF as well.
See https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_fonts.asp

The Web Open Font Format (WOFF)
WOFF is a font format for use in web pages. It was developed in 2009, and is now a W3C Recommendation. WOFF is essentially OpenType or TrueType with compression and additional metadata. The goal is to support font distribution from a server to a client over a network with bandwidth constraints.

The Web Open Font Format (WOFF 2.0)
TrueType/OpenType font that provides better compression than WOFF 1.0.

One caution: I found in the browsers I tried, the @font-face css MUST be in the html header!
The exact same code in a loaded css file is ignored.