Another crowdfunded perpetual motion machine

[5U4GB]

This time it's a free energy extractor.  They've taken the clever step of hiding the explanation behind a €99.00 paywall so you can't really tell what sort of snake oil it is beyond:

A small autonomus power supply source based on a longitudinal wave free energy generation principals. The energy generates by a standing wave in a coil with precisely defined parameters. The coil induces a compensating response from the environment, which is converted into regular electrical energy.

[Analog Kid]

I wonder how many similar bullshit project funding campaigns are on that site (or on equivalent ones) at any given time.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I wonder how many similar bullshit project funding campaigns are on that site (or on equivalent ones) at any given time.

IG  has always been the place for the scammiest crowdfunds

[Haenk]

https://www.indiegogo.com/de/projects/free_energy/free_energy_extraction?redirect_reason=language_detection#/product/3461757

I'm 117% convinced, this is a legit product.

[rogerggbr]

I love this wording:-
"The main risk is the implementation period, it can be extended due to objective and insurmountable reasons, also a challenge is the compliance of all components with the declared parameters, because they may differ from the specified ones."
So if it is insurmountable the implementation will be indefinite, no refunds. So far no backers......

[SteveThackery]

I love this wording:-
"The main risk is the implementation period, it can be extended due to objective and insurmountable reasons, also a challenge is the compliance of all components with the declared parameters, because they may differ from the specified ones."
So if it is insurmountable the implementation will be indefinite, no refunds. So far no backers......

Yep: they've just lined up all the excuses, ready to deploy. I hope nobody is dumb enough to invest.

[TimFox]

See

https://xkcd.com/2217

[Analog Kid]

I love this wording:-
"The main risk is the implementation period, it can be extended due to objective and insurmountable reasons, also a challenge is the compliance of all components with the declared parameters, because they may differ from the specified ones."
So if it is insurmountable the implementation will be indefinite, no refunds. So far no backers......

Yep: they've just lined up all the excuses, ready to deploy. I hope nobody is dumb enough to invest.

I disagree. I hope some end up falling for this.

Some suckers deserve to be fleeced. Hard way to learn a lesson, but there you go.

[langwadt]

I wonder how many similar bullshit project funding campaigns are on that site (or on equivalent ones) at any given time.

IG  has always been the place for the scammiest crowdfunds

seems like an great way to launder money

[Kean]

It is kind of strange that there are still no backers.  A common tactic since early days of crowd funding is to get the ball rolling by having friends or family backing the project, as they can always pull out before the end.  Much like a shill bidder at a house auction.

On Kickstarter, you are also pretty much guaranteed to get a backer or two in the first few hours of a project launch, but they will be from scammers who message you to contact them off platform to discuss marketing strategies and fleece you for some money before disappearing.  But even those scammers might be put off by a dodgy project like this.

[Randy222]

There's infinite energy just below your feet.
Mind boggling nobody goes after it, which is relatively easy in year 2026.

[shapirus]

There's infinite energy just below your feet.
Mind boggling nobody goes after it, which is relatively easy in year 2026.

...such as?

[MrMobodies]

I wonder if they charged those capacitors up with enough time it to show that it works on camera disconnected from the mains.

[Haenk]

I wonder if they charged those capacitors up with enough time it to show that it works on camera disconnected from the mains.

There are enough leads running out of the picture frame, so it would be easy to supply the "device".
Or an eben more magical approach: Put some batteries inside the tubing.

[5U4GB]

There's infinite energy just below your feet.
Mind boggling nobody goes after it, which is relatively easy in year 2026.

...such as?

The pedals of an exercycle driving a dynamo perhaps?

[Lord of nothing]

Depend on the location Thermal Heat from the Earth Core, Solar Radion from the Sun,...

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

[Haenk]

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

Just a hint: Thick moving layer of ice floating on the ground. Not sure how long drill would last, maybe a week?

[langwadt]

Depend on the location Thermal Heat from the Earth Core, Solar Radion from the Sun,...

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

the North Pole is floating ice there no land under it

[Lord of nothing]

  ok ok the south does have Rocks.

[Analog Kid]

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

Ah yes, the Jules Verne geothermal heating solution.

[TimFox]

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

Ah yes, the Jules Verne geothermal heating solution.

Jules Verne usually consulted with experts for his quantitative features.
The calculations for the ballistic trip from Florida to the moon (in another novel) add up, but his contrivance to avoid crushing the astronauts on launch are not convincing.
His discussion of the political conflicts between Florida and Texas for the honor of the launch site are amusing, along with the discussions between the US armaments manufacturers about starting a war to help their companies' profits.

I enjoy the Fritz Lang silent movie "Frau im Mond" (1929) for the invention of the count-down and the wonderful scene with the rocket being wheeled into position while the crowd cheers and merchants sell balloons to the kids.
However, the ergonomics inside the craft needed work:  wearing neckties and putting the levers too far away from the acceleration couches.

[LogicDude]

We have the technology.  There is a city in Freedonia that makes use of it.

Buttered Cat Perpetual Motion

https://youtu.be/mB5nztzXo24

[CatalinaWOW]

Depend on the location Thermal Heat from the Earth Core, Solar Radion from the Sun,...

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

It is funny.  This is a technicians and engineers site.  Where numbers matter.   

This is absolutely conceptually possible.  But it costs a lot to drill one of those deep holes.  Add a another big chunk for the machinery to convert that heat to usable energy.  Add some more for maintenance costs on stuff that is kilometers underground and hot as Hades.   Then that free energy costs more than solar, wind, nuclear or fossil.  Except for a few special cases where geology brings the heat closer to the surface.  Iceland does a fair bit of this, and there are geothermal plants in California and other locations in the US west.  Probably other places.  But they are all barely economically sound.

And the icing on the cake.  It doesn't last "indefinitely".  There is a lot of heat there, but any location cools off it you use it as a heat source.  If you sip energy out of it the duration is long with respect to our species, but if you gulp it by powering large cities and industries the time scales are much shorter.

[Electrodynamic]

Depend on the location Thermal Heat from the Earth Core, Solar Radion from the Sun,...

What I dont understand why nobody on the north or south Pole just drill a Hole deep enough where the Core warm up the Ground to 30c and use that to heat the Station there indefinitely. 

It is funny.  This is a technicians and engineers site.  Where numbers matter.   

This is absolutely conceptually possible.  But it costs a lot to drill one of those deep holes.  Add a another big chunk for the machinery to convert that heat to usable energy.  Add some more for maintenance costs on stuff that is kilometers underground and hot as Hades.   Then that free energy costs more than solar, wind, nuclear or fossil.  Except for a few special cases where geology brings the heat closer to the surface.  Iceland does a fair bit of this, and there are geothermal plants in California and other locations in the US west.  Probably other places.  But they are all barely economically sound.

And the icing on the cake.  It doesn't last "indefinitely".  There is a lot of heat there, but any location cools off it you use it as a heat source.  If you sip energy out of it the duration is long with respect to our species, but if you gulp it by powering large cities and industries the time scales are much shorter.

It's debatable, if we add up all the costs fossil fuels are a losing proposition.

For example, to get a gallon of gas into your car we need to...
1)Drill a deep very expensive oil well
2)Buy and bury countless miles of steel pipe to transport the oil
3)Refine the oil in a big very expensive refinery
4)Transport the refined products countless miles
5)Sell the refined products in countless service stations

This does not include the millions of tons of steel well casing and abandoned pipelines never cleaned up rotting in the ground usually written off ie. subsidized by taxpayers. Nor does it include the trillions and trillions of dollars damage done by the pollution created by leaks and burning fossil fuels.

It's weird, here in Alberta everyone is always whining about how high the taxes are yet we give billions in subsidies to the fossil fuel industry. The latest scam is where all the oil/gas companies sell marginal or depleted oil/gas fields to shell companies then declare bankruptcy leaving taxpayers to foot the bill.

It may very well be the biggest scam in history if we look at the total cost from start to finish, the total damage done and massive taxpayer subsidies. Of course, I did not include all of the past wars (taxpayer funded military/weapons, infrastructure damage and deaths) including all the present wars related directly to oil otherwise the real cost would be beyond all reason and sound completely insane.

You do read the news don't you?. Where the U.S. has killed the leaders of or invaded other countries and the President said it was to "get the oil".

[Electrodynamic]

I found most people are clueless about what actually happens in the oil patch.

I used to work in the oil patch when I was younger pipeline, pipe fitting, heavy equipment operator, rigs and field operator. In one pipeline job in central Alberta we were running 14 km of 4" pipe and had 86 marked line crossings. Of course we found another 46 pipe lines, live and abandoned, which were not marked. When we heard the sound of the track hoe bucket hitting metal everyone would start running and hit the ground. The track hoe operator told a story where they hit and ruptured a 900 psi 9" line on one job. It left a 40' crater and threw the track hoe 20' into the air. Fun times.

It's hard to say how many millions of miles of pipe are rotting in the ground. I smell a couple of fairly big natural gas leaks within a mile of my acreage. Been leaking for over 10 years and nobody does anything about it. That's methane, a green house gas much worse than CO2. Everything here is leaking, it's a shit show.