Ashton Forbes Over Unity Challenge

[EEVblog]

Although I'm convinced that there is a race to the bottom for educational standards, (at least in the UK!) Why hasn't the likes of this guy, flat earthers, foo believers, etc., questioned why their particular delusion is not being investigated and adopted within mainstream science?
What I mean by that is, what is the cause of their cognative 'blind spot'.

It's way harder to stand out as genius in the field in regular science.

[Nominal Animal]

And people who cannot understand the complex answers tend to suspect there is a simpler answer that is kept from them only so that those who know it can feel superior.

[VinzC]

What I mean by that is, what is the cause of their cognative 'blind spot'.

There are approximately 300 of them, not just one. Well, not that they all apply in this case but you get the picture  .

[EEVblog]

He's popped back back up in my X timeline saying that I'm a fraud and that my time is coming 

https://x.com/AshtonForbes/status/2065177058183987664

[thm_w]

For anyone else wondering, has nothing to do with power generation: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2025/press-release/

"This year’s Nobel Prize in Physics has provided opportunities for developing the next generation of quantum technology, including quantum cryptography, quantum computers, and quantum sensors." What it could do is reduce power consumption, increase efficiency, etc. but not actually generate power.

To be working on that level of tech he would need ultra low temp refrigerators, microwave sources, superconducting materials, etc. Which I don't think he has anything close to.

[EEVblog]

He's going to piss on my grave 

[EEVblog]

And he's now threatened me.

[EEVblog]

And he's now threatening to dox Common Sense Skeptic.

[Kean]

Wow, what an idiot.  We knew he was a charlatan, but he obviously has nothing when he just reverts to ad hominem attacks.

Posting threats also isn't particularly smart, although those seem mild.  Kind of funny he accuses someone else of "low IQ grifter slop".

Whatever happened to the business (Aether Tech) that he set up a couple of years ago to commercialise this.  I've avoided Twitter for the last couple of years, so I'm not going there now just to explore this.  Nor am I going anywhere near his Youtube channel again.

I did find a website that is probably his at aethertech.us - it seems to have no actual content, but includes a massive amount of javascript code.

And there is a subreddit for them, but not run by Ashton https://www.reddit.com/r/AetherTech/

[EEVblog]

Professor Dave has a few videos on him:

[EEVblog]

That over-unity machine he challenged us Youtubers to test, he got scammed

https://x.com/dyork55/status/2065283561905897676

[paul cotter]

When it comes to Ashton Forbes, words fail me. He is a class leader in the woo-woo circles, few can emulate him. Having said that , however, i strongly believe he is not playing with a full deck! 

[tszaboo]

And he's now threatened me.

Someone forgot to take their medication.
I wonder what goes on in the heads of these people that just snap at some point, for no good reason. Probably several mental disorders layered on top of each other.

[temperance]

I wonder what goes on in the heads of these people that just snap at some point, for no good reason. Probably several mental disorders layered on top of each other.

Money with no responsibilities. The ideal job. I have no idea how much money those people make with their nonsense. But most likely more than most people in here. They have a vast crowd who follows them everywhere who, blinded by nonsense they can't explain, are ready to come after you with a pitchfork if you offend their leader.

I watched on YT one those free energy nonsense life streams. The comments are crazy. But even crazier are the non stop donations in the range of $20...150 by people who think their god is going to save the world is insane.

[Xena E]

[VinzC]

I wonder what goes on in the heads of these people that just snap at some point, for no good reason. Probably several mental disorders layered on top of each other.

You'd be amazed at what the overconfidence bias can do to human's psyche. When someone's convinced to be in their right mind, like belonging to the... "enlightened" because they've """realised""" something big that nobody but them understands, a feeling of heavenly superiority emerges. It's not that they're crazy, just falling for their very own, human flaws, which is also their blind spot.

[temperance]

You'd be amazed at what the overconfidence bias can do to human's psyche. When someone's convinced to be in their right mind, like belonging to the...

An element called freedom is what those believers are being tricked into. Every year I'm invited to a friends birthday party and every year there this one person who believes in free energy and many other things. The recurring theme is oppression in all possible ways. And if you can break free from this oppression, you reach freedom.

On the list are:
-We are being oppressed by the government. They on, purpose hide stuff from us which would allow us to have free energy.
-They teach children in schools the wrong physics on purpose. Books detailing how things really work are being burned or hidden in the Vatican library...
-UFO's are real and he claimed Neil Degrasse Tyson confirmed that UFO's have visited us. (Only Ben UFO is real.)
-They are withholding the truth about marijuana from us. The industry doesn't want you to know marijuana can cure all sorts of cancer. The stream of nonsense is endless."
...

And according to him I'm a good example of an oppressed person, brainwashed in schools and therefore unable to see waht is real. "You are wasting your knowledge".

[SteveThackery]

-UFO's are real and he claimed Neil Degrasse Tyson confirmed that UFO's have visited us. (Only Ben UFO is real.)

Neil Degrasse Tyson? For fuck's sake. 

[Psi]

If someone ever does create over unity they're going to have to release the design under an open license because there's no way anyone will believe them until the design is being replicated by everyone and it become impossible to ignore.   

[EEVblog]

If someone ever does create over unity they're going to have to release the design under an open license because there's no way anyone will believe them until the design is being replicated by everyone and it become impossible to ignore.   

Nope, just sell it.
If people do really get more electrical power out than they put in, that's easy to measure. Even Joe Average could verify that with their electric bill.

[Psi]

If someone ever does create over unity they're going to have to release the design under an open license because there's no way anyone will believe them until the design is being replicated by everyone and it become impossible to ignore.   

Nope, just sell it.

Selling it would requires rigorous and scientific due diligence to confirm it's real.
No one will fork out billions because an average Joe says it's real with his DMM.
Your back to square one.   

[EEVblog]

If someone ever does create over unity they're going to have to release the design under an open license because there's no way anyone will believe them until the design is being replicated by everyone and it become impossible to ignore.   

Nope, just sell it.

Selling it would requires rigorous and scientific due diligence to confirm it's real.
No one will fork out billions because an average Joe says it's real with his DMM.
Your back to square one.   

If you have genuinely developed a device that provides more electrical power out than you put in, then everyone would buy it and just use it. You'd have to beat people off with a stick.
If your widget for example can charge your EV at 7kW but only uses 70W of wall power, that cannot be faked.
Word of mouth does rest, eventually collect your billions and your Nobel prize.

Our good mate Ashton for example claims that the device he was asking us EE's to publicly verify could be started once and power his laptop forever when you disconnect it from the wall.
He claims he was about to demonstrate the very test. He never did, what a shame.

[Psi]

Ah, I thought you were meaning cash in and sell off the discovery/patent.
Yes, if you could build devices and sell them that would work fine in the very short term.
The issue is getting a patent for it before selling it.
Until it works on accepted scientific principles patenting it will be extremely hard. The patent office reject so many patents for free energy stuff all the time.
It would be a challenge to get the patent office to accept it without first getting the tech out there for the science community to accept, which is exactly what you don't want to do if you want to patent it.

It's not impossible, I just find the catch22 funny.

[EEVblog]

Ah, I thought you were meaning cash in and sell off the discovery/patent.
Yes, if you could build devices and sell them that would work fine in the very short term.
The issue is getting a patent for it before selling it.
Until it works on accepted scientific principles patenting it will be extremely hard. The patent office reject so many patents for free energy stuff all the time.
It would be a challenge to get the patent office to accept it without first getting the tech out there for the science community to accept, which is exactly what you don't want to do if you want to patent it.
It's not impossible, I just find the catch22 funny.

No need to patent it, just sell it and get rich, classic first mover advantage. Make it harder to copy if you want.
Either way you'll win that Nobel prize.

[Psi]

Ah, I thought you were meaning cash in and sell off the discovery/patent.
Yes, if you could build devices and sell them that would work fine in the very short term.
The issue is getting a patent for it before selling it.
Until it works on accepted scientific principles patenting it will be extremely hard. The patent office reject so many patents for free energy stuff all the time.
It would be a challenge to get the patent office to accept it without first getting the tech out there for the science community to accept, which is exactly what you don't want to do if you want to patent it.
It's not impossible, I just find the catch22 funny.

No need to patent it, just sell it and get rich, classic first mover advantage. Make it harder to copy if you want.
Either way you'll win that Nobel prize.

With how much money it could make I don't think anyone short of an already established billion $ company could move faster enough to stay ahead.
You might get 4 months of sales before it popped up on Aliexpress and Amazon and their volume outpaced your ability to produce and sell them.

Yes, you would win the nobel prize.