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74HCT74D with feedback in NI multisim
« on: January 12, 2023, 12:20:08 pm »
Hi, im working on a project that needs a flip flop, and the only SOP package avaliable at my school lab is the 74HCT74D. The truth table is not that great for my need, as the D pin needs to be changed between H and L to toggle on the CP pin

In multisim i tried to just connect the Qinverse output to the D pin, and this worked... IN MULTISIM. I have a creeping fear that this wont be the case in real life since states change at the same time.
Does anyone have experience with this, either with the chip or feedback in multisim who can give me some tips ? I know feedback isnt that great to use with latches, but the output in the truth table says Qn+1 so im not sure

There will be a button input to this, so it wont be any high frequency stuff

Also, sorry if this is posted in the wrong place, i am new to the forum

 

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Re: 74HCT74D with feedback in NI multisim
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2023, 04:18:43 pm »
The feedback on the flip-flop is fine, that is a totally normal thing to do.  What is questionable is the slow edges your input circuit will present to the clock input.  The spec for that chip recommends less than 500ns rise/fall times and you have a 100us time constant filter.  It might work as you have it but to be reliable I would put in a schmitt-trigger buffer to sharpen up the clock input.
 

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Re: 74HCT74D with feedback in NI multisim
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2023, 04:27:22 pm »
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The feedback on the flip-flop is fine, that is a totally normal thing to do
Indeed,its one of those  classic configurations that must stretch back to almost the birth  of logic
 

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Re: 74HCT74D with feedback in NI multisim
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2023, 04:32:34 pm »
Hi, im working on a project that needs a flip flop, and the only SOP package avaliable at my school lab is the 74HCT74D. The truth table is not that great for my need, as the D pin needs to be changed between H and L to toggle on the CP pin

In multisim i tried to just connect the Qinverse output to the D pin, and this worked... IN MULTISIM. I have a creeping fear that this wont be the case in real life since states change at the same time.
Does anyone have experience with this, either with the chip or feedback in multisim who can give me some tips ? I know feedback isnt that great to use with latches, but the output in the truth table says Qn+1 so im not sure

nothing happens instantly, Q changes (to what D was right before the clock edge) slightly after the clock edge
 


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