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technix:
This is from my visit to Allwinner stall at CES Asia yesterday. I grabbed an Allwinner rep and inquired about the long term availability of V3s, the BGA-free SBC chip.

"Allwinner can guarantee at least five years for the availability of V3s, and the same die is also being used in a few other parts for those that needs second sources or replacement parts."

ebastler:

--- Quote from: technix on June 13, 2019, 01:17:43 pm ---"the same die is also being used in a few other parts for those that needs second sources or replacement parts."

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Does that mean "used in other AllWinner parts" or in third-party parts?

If it's the former, that would not really qualify as a second source, right? If it's the latter, I would love to know which are the other brands. And also would love to know whether it is common for multiple brands to share dies?

Thanks for further background, if you know more!

chickenHeadKnob:
That probably would be me!  ;D

I am no longer an interested in them, as I can slowly accumulate PI zero and zero/W enough for hobby projects. In particular I can get Pi zero/W  with pre-soldered header in unlimited  (x) quantity from an official Canadian Pi distributor BuyaPi.ca for $19 cad ($14.26 usd), At that price it is competitive with orange PI and similar. I suspect Pi foundation longevity of supply is even more trustworthy than whatever Allwinner tells you. With the official Pi I don't worry about the  BGA soldering and it has more RAM.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: technix on June 13, 2019, 01:17:43 pm ---This is from my visit to Allwinner stall at CES Asia yesterday. I grabbed an Allwinner rep and inquired about the long term availability of V3s, the BGA-free SBC chip.

"Allwinner can guarantee at least five years for the availability of V3s, and the same die is also being used in a few other parts for those that needs second sources or replacement parts."

--- End quote ---
You take a salesperson's word for something that important?   :palm: If you depend on long term availability (and 5 years isn't long term at all) you better get something in writing. NXP (for example) has guaranteed availability of ARM SoCs for up to 15 years (from introduction). Now that is something you can base an industrial design on.

rsjsouza:

--- Quote from: nctnico on June 30, 2019, 07:14:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: technix on June 13, 2019, 01:17:43 pm ---This is from my visit to Allwinner stall at CES Asia yesterday. I grabbed an Allwinner rep and inquired about the long term availability of V3s, the BGA-free SBC chip.

"Allwinner can guarantee at least five years for the availability of V3s, and the same die is also being used in a few other parts for those that needs second sources or replacement parts."

--- End quote ---
You take a salesperson's word for something that important?   :palm: If you depend on long term availability (and 5 years isn't long term at all) you better get something in writing. NXP (for example) has guaranteed availability of ARM SoCs for up to 15 years (from introduction). Now that is something you can base an industrial design on.

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I was going to reply the same thing back then, but the silence of the OP about ebastler's questions made me dismiss the assertive as just vapourware.

Five years is enough for a production run of the newest cheap gadget that will ve replaced next year with a new thing.

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