Hell freezes over...

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

LOL. Two words: feature detection.

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var GOT_TCO= 1;
try { ƒ(3e5) } catch (e) { GOT_TCO= 0 }
if (GOT_TCO) { ... } else { ... }


[bd139]

But then the next thing you'll need autoconf for Javascript at which point I'm going to go postal.

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

Look: https://modernizr.com/

[magic]

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var GOT_TCO= 1;
try { ƒ(3e5) } catch (e) { GOT_TCO= 0 }
if (GOT_TCO) { ... } else { ... }


I frankly don't care, Web 2.0 is already lost to me. I browse with noscript, use FailFox reader mode to reveal images that fail to show up without scripts (it manages to do it surprisingly often) and only enable GayEss if I really must. Oh well, come to think about it, I have it enabled here, but that's because this is a Web 1.0 forum software so it doesn't suck as badly.

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

Web 2.0?? You've been living under a rock?

[bd139]

Look: https://modernizr.com/

Ahh a fucking hack job.

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

I'd bet both you and magic spend more than half the time in the browser. But here you're both of you complaining... LOL.

[bd139]

I've spent the last 20 years writing HTML, JavaScript and CSS by hand for rather well known large web facing companies. I've lived and fought through ALL the fads from XML data islands, through jQuery, Angular etc. I know this intimately well to the point of spending hours debugging IE specific issues and having MS connect cases open due to browser bugs. I've opened 20 odd Chrome defects as well. And at this moment I'm prototyping an interface for something in Bootstrap that lives inside Electron

What I have is battle scars and a right to bitch.

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

Impressive CV! How is it that you forgot those two magic words then?

[bd139]

Like my uncle, he did not speak of the Falklands after being there.

I rather prefer to loiter on the security and architecture side of things now. The Electron project is a front end for a commercial project I am engineering from the ground up for me.

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

If you ever get tired of nodejs and having to write it all backwards non sequentially, try this: https://github.com/Sage/streamlinejs it's much easier to use than it seems.



That's you??? 

[bd139]

If you ever get tired of nodejs and having to write it all backwards non sequentially, try this: https://github.com/Sage/streamlinejs it's much easier to use than it seems.



That's you??? 

When node turned up I laughed, sicked in my mouth and crawled back in a hole with SICP and wrote a scheme interpreter.

Is that me? Some days! 

I only write software these days because money. 

[Karel]

Second, Microsoft became less of a Windows company and more of a cloud company, supporting Linux on Azure,
porting its .NET and SQL Server technology to Linux, and supporting both Linux containers and then Linux Kubernetes on Azure.

Microsoft's efforts to run Linux have been successful. By late 2018 the company acknowledged that there were more
Linux VMs on Azure than Windows and today the proportion must be significantly higher.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/29/windows_server_containers_azure_kubernetes/

[Karel]

"starting in October, Microsoft Edge on Linux will be available to download on the Dev preview channel."

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/22/whats-new-in-web-experiences-ignite-2020-need-to-secure-your-remote-workers-choose-microsoft-edge-as-your-browser-for-business/

[bd139]

That's scary.

To be fair I'm using it to write this post now and it's probably the least shit browser out there at the moment. It's basically Chrome without all the annoying shitty bits.

[David Hess]

A large part of the problem is that Windows 8 / 10 is really easy to hate and this is coming from a veteran of Windows. It's honestly the most retarded version of Windows I have *ever* used.

I am still struggling to get Windows 10 to do things which were trivial with Windows XP, like NOT FUCKING STEALING WINDOW FOCUS!

[RoGeorge]

A large part of the problem is that Windows 8 / 10 is really easy to hate and this is coming from a veteran of Windows. It's honestly the most retarded version of Windows I have *ever* used.

I am still struggling to get Windows 10 to do things which were trivial with Windows XP, like NOT FUCKING STEALING WINDOW FOCUS!

That's easy to fix, you need to install an app called Kubuntu (not from the Windows Apps Store).   
It will change a little the look of your desktop, but in a good way.

[David Hess]

That's easy to fix, you need to install an app called Kubuntu (not from the Windows Apps Store).   
It will change a little the look of your desktop, but in a good way.

I will soon have some spare workstation class hardware to evaluate that.

[BravoV]

A large part of the problem is that Windows 8 / 10 is really easy to hate and this is coming from a veteran of Windows. It's honestly the most retarded version of Windows I have *ever* used.

I am still struggling to get Windows 10 to do things which were trivial with Windows XP, like NOT FUCKING STEALING WINDOW FOCUS!

Currently, my main desktop has two boot drives, one with W10 and other one with Linux Mint.

Linux gets booted by frequency, starting to increase maybe 40 to 50% of the time, my personal mission is to get rid of W10 by next year. 

[bd139]

Good luck with that. I’ve been trying to eviscerate windows since 1997.

[Ed.Kloonk]

"starting in October, Microsoft Edge on Linux will be available to download on the Dev preview channel."

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/22/whats-new-in-web-experiences-ignite-2020-need-to-secure-your-remote-workers-choose-microsoft-edge-as-your-browser-for-business/

https://youtu.be/8QjrBjdb2T8?t=33

[Karel]

"starting in October, Microsoft Edge on Linux will be available to download on the Dev preview channel."

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/22/whats-new-in-web-experiences-ignite-2020-need-to-secure-your-remote-workers-choose-microsoft-edge-as-your-browser-for-business/

https://youtu.be/8QjrBjdb2T8?t=33

 

[drussell]

Currently, my main desktop has two boot drives, one with W10 and other one with Linux Mint.

Linux gets booted by frequency, starting to increase maybe 40 to 50% of the time, my personal mission is to get rid of W10 by next year. 

Good luck with that. I’ve been trying to eviscerate windows since 1997.

Run FreeBSD or your favorite flavor of Linux as your main OS and only fire up whatever various versions of Windows you need for something specific in a VM when you really need it.

Problem solved.

[bd139]

I do that the other way round... Linux VMs in windows.

[drussell]

I do that the other way round... Linux VMs in windows.

That's how we know you're a masochist. 

You're doing it backwards! 

Why, why, why would you do it that way?