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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4250 on: August 26, 2023, 07:00:44 pm »
Hi,

To be on the safe side I checked all serial protocols on my STB-3 again. SPI, UART, LIN and CAN work as explained in the user manual. It is really only the I2C signal that is going crazy.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4251 on: August 26, 2023, 09:42:00 pm »
To cover all bases for I2C decode of STB-3, Martin, mathstudi, can you setup your scope to get the results you see and Save a State file (scope settings) and post it here please.
You will need to add a .txt file extension for the forum to accept it.

Then we can load that set up file into any scope to double check settings are as they should be.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4252 on: August 26, 2023, 10:17:14 pm »
Wouldn't it be easier if you did it with your setup ?

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4253 on: August 26, 2023, 10:26:35 pm »
Wouldn't it be easier if you did it with your setup ?
Possibly however it won't reveal any incorrect settings you make.

Busy with another project ATM so later can upload a 2000X Plus or 1104X-E State file.

Unsure if you can use any State file in a 2000X HD, never tried.....something I should try but only have 1000X HD here and what's the worst that can happen that a Default can't fix. Then we have recovery files to fix any real problems.....

Think best we stick to the same model series for recalling State files.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4254 on: August 26, 2023, 10:57:46 pm »
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Possibly however it won't reveal any incorrect settings you make.

Understand this, but..
What should you be able to do wrong there...
Look again at my video, the clock is absolutely stable, more stable than the flank trigger in defpoms video.
And if you press stop, the trigger is out of the game.
Then it decodes from memory and that doesn't work, at least not for me.
You can also post your settings as screenshots, there are not so many.
More than the thresholds for clock and data, as well as the trigger setting you could not make.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4255 on: August 27, 2023, 10:03:25 am »
Wouldn't it be easier if you did it with your setup ?
Possibly however it won't reveal any incorrect settings you make.

Busy with another project ATM so later can upload a 2000X Plus or 1104X-E State Setup file.

Unsure if you can use any State Setup file in a 2000X HD, never tried.....something I should try but only have 1000X HD here and what's the worst that can happen that a Default can't fix. Then we have recovery files to fix any real problems.....

Think best we stick to the same model series for recalling State Setup files.

Edit: State files are for other instruments, not DSO's.
Attached is a SDS1104X-E Setup file for I2C decoding basic scope settings however not the actual Decode settings which need be checked/set to match and Threshold levels set correctly.
Set Decode = ON
I2C
CLK = Ch1 = 50% trigger
Data = Ch4

Use Save/Recall, Recall to load the below Setup file from USB
SetupI2C.1104X-E.xml is the file name so remove the .txt extension. (.xml extensions not supported on this forum)
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4256 on: August 27, 2023, 11:27:59 am »
Here is my setup for the SDS2354X Plus and the STB-3 I2C Serial Decode:

Once with holdoff trigger (2 ms).
"Start Holdoff On" "Acq Start" or "Last Trig Time". Both times the same results.

After that I copied the trigger settings in the Decode Menu to the trigger using Protocol Copy, also here the same results.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4257 on: August 27, 2023, 11:59:16 am »
Here is my setup for the SDS2354X Plus and the STB-3 I2C Serial Decode with the SPL2016 Logic Probes.

"Start Holdoff On" "Acq Start" or "Last Trig Time". Both times the same results.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4258 on: August 27, 2023, 03:49:04 pm »
Setups from my 2504HD...
Serial trigger I²C with Restart (this is the rockstable one), I²C with Start (and 5ms/div), Edge falling, 2ms Holdoff.


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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4259 on: August 27, 2023, 08:39:39 pm »
Use Save/Recall, Recall to load the below Setup file from USB
SetupI2C.1104X-E.xml is the file name so remove the .txt extension. (.xml extensions not supported on this forum)

Test it now, same result as before, see pic...

 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4260 on: August 27, 2023, 10:26:18 pm »
STB-3 I2C packet flaws reported to HQ.  :popcorn:
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4261 on: August 27, 2023, 10:36:43 pm »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4262 on: August 27, 2023, 10:39:45 pm »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?
Unknown yet however I have asked if a flash/FW is required to remedy.
So we wait.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4263 on: August 28, 2023, 06:05:02 am »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?

JTAG Blaster
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4264 on: August 31, 2023, 11:15:10 pm »
Does this mean that it's possible to run the telnet service on the newer firmware (1.5.2R2)? I don't understand how downgrading, configuring telnetd, and then updating again to a newer release will preserve the capability.  Or am I reading this all wrong?

I'm currently on V1.3.9R6, and I'm loath to update to the 1.5.2 releases, and loose telnet and siglent_device_startup.sh capability.

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Just received a SDS2104X Plus with V1.5.2R1, with disabled telnet. If you need telnet, the downgrade to 1.3.9R12 worked.

For some reason the telnet password no longer works, even after the downgrade (root/siglent_sds1000x_e), however to get around it just use
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telnetd -l /bin/sh in the
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siglent_device_startup.sh file, then it won't ask for any login details.

Updated then to 1.5.2R2, all good
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4265 on: August 31, 2023, 11:24:02 pm »
Does this mean that it's possible to run the telnet service on the newer firmware (1.5.2R2)?
No need to run a telnet session for any tricks.
More study required.  ;)
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4266 on: September 02, 2023, 04:44:21 pm »
I'm keen to keep my proper timezone, and maintain the clock with NTP as I do today.  Thus, the desire for a startup script, or equivalent.   Haven't seen anything like that for the newer firmware versions.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4267 on: September 02, 2023, 07:09:37 pm »
I'm keen to keep my proper timezone, and maintain the clock with NTP as I do today.  Thus, the desire for a startup script, or equivalent.   Haven't seen anything like that for the newer firmware versions.
You don't need any of that. As I said more study required.

All the later FW can be rolled back to earlier versions.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4268 on: September 03, 2023, 05:59:01 pm »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?

Checksum of the file, for comparing, read out with intel quartus prime light and usb blaster.

Edit:
Here my first steps with the usb blaster and the software:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/fpga/which-jtag-blaster-for-altera-max-10/msg5042296/#msg5042296
« Last Edit: September 03, 2023, 08:43:25 pm by Martin72 »
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4269 on: September 04, 2023, 05:15:00 pm »
Checksum of the file, for comparing, read out with intel quartus prime light and usb blaster.

I ordered my USB Blaster today from AliExpress. As soon as I get the USB blaster I will share my checksum.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4270 on: September 05, 2023, 09:55:38 am »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?

The file should be in the FW package, so you can get it from there.

Also, the FW upgrade script does the FPGA programming so you can also feed it with a different file.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4271 on: September 05, 2023, 10:41:21 am »
Just for the case:
The board has an Altera Max 10 FPGA and a 10pin Jtag header.
What would I need to read/program this ?

The file should be in the FW package, so you can get it from there.

Also, the FW upgrade script does the FPGA programming so you can also feed it with a different file.
This is for STB-3 or which there is no official/public FW.  :(
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4272 on: September 05, 2023, 10:54:34 am »
This is for STB-3 or which there is no official/public FW.  :(

Ohhhh... oopss... didn't follow the whole thread flow.

But now you're trying to use the board to test also extraction/programming of FPGA contents??  That will make them increase the price! ;D
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4273 on: September 05, 2023, 11:29:59 am »
But now you're trying to use the board to test also extraction/programming of FPGA contents?? 
No, there are some faulty STD-3 out there and it seems only Jtag can fix them....if Siglent will share the file with us.
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« Reply #4274 on: September 08, 2023, 07:42:23 pm »
Bug report / feature requests moved here.
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