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« Reply #3075 on: December 06, 2017, 08:06:40 pm »
I used carabiners to hang it from the wire shelf, so I wasn't concerned that it would fall. I did worry a bit that the shelf might rip loose from the wall. I was disappointed that I couldn't come up with a similar arrangement in the new location.
 

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« Reply #3076 on: December 06, 2017, 08:09:36 pm »
Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?...   :scared:
 

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« Reply #3077 on: December 06, 2017, 11:06:44 pm »
Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?...   :scared:

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« Reply #3078 on: December 06, 2017, 11:13:39 pm »
Great that Chris will recover, but what about the poor oscilloscope?  :o  >:D
 

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« Reply #3079 on: December 06, 2017, 11:29:10 pm »
Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?...   :scared:

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« Reply #3080 on: December 06, 2017, 11:39:05 pm »

I had a similar problem when my "lab" was in a closet and I bought an old Tektronix 2247. I ended up hanging the scope from a shelf. Tilted, it doesn't stick out so far and it was easier to see when sitting at the table.

I also had a similar problem when I installed some shelves.  I was thinking how to tilt the equipment when I accidentally dropped the shelf above on the one below.  It bent the front edge of the brackets down about 4 inches which turns out to be the perfect angle.  Never thought about bending the brackets but it worked out really well.  The brackets were cheap quality and the shelf was very heavy.  It just looks funny.




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« Reply #3081 on: December 07, 2017, 12:13:35 am »
I had to tilt the frequency counter I bought a while back because it stuck out too far. All I had to do was rotate the bail around.  My shelves are 11 inches wide and they're spaced away from the wall another inch or so, but the frequency counter is over 13 inches long and needs a bit more for power cord clearance.

 

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« Reply #3082 on: December 07, 2017, 02:53:22 am »
I had to tilt the frequency counter I bought a while back because it stuck out too far. All I had to do was rotate the bail around.  My shelves are 11 inches wide and they're spaced away from the wall another inch or so, but the frequency counter is over 13 inches long and needs a bit more for power cord clearance.
FWIW, Rt. angle power cords might be of help in such situations (IEC end).  :)
 

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« Reply #3083 on: December 07, 2017, 07:58:51 am »
Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?...   :scared:

Depends what scope you have. If it's a Tektronix 555 I think I'd avoid the wires from ceiling idea :D

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« Reply #3084 on: December 07, 2017, 01:23:31 pm »
I have an old Tek somewhat similar to the one in the previous pic which is also quite deep and clumsy to have on my small workbench, and you bet, I have thought about hanging it from its handle - tilted back at a 45 degree angle also like in the prev. pic. My scope is a 2200 series with a plastic, not metal molded handle but the handle is quite strong, also the handle has detents so when "set" in a position it doesn't move. One can set it very far backward, as in the pic, and even a bit further, resulting in the scope naturally hanging with its face pointing down at an angle. However the very last detent seems not such a good idea as the back of the scope gets too close to the handle. (have it here right now.)

With the handle at 45 however the center of gravity is such that suspended only from the handle it naturally hangs forward just enough to make it visible without straining and there is room for support that's quite strong.

 You can do that by mounting several padded hooks to hang it from from a shelf above, or similar, the kind used for storing bicycles would work well. I also have some made for storing athletic equipment that are coated with soft plastics. You could also use shelf supports but you would need to adapt them with thick neoprene or similar padding covered with something a bit more durable to prevent the shelf supports from destroying the plastic handle. Neoprene covered with canvas or similar sleeves would work.

 I've seen it done successfully in such a way that the scope can still easily be removed for use elsewhere when needed just by lifting it a bit so it can be brought forward.

You just need a little padded pair of hooks that are strong enough, that both face in the same direction.. Facing forward or back. Forward would best facilitate easy removal.

You could do that kind of mount for other equipment and it actually would be an excellent use of space. Once equipment is really high up its out of reach, tilting lets you have it up and out of the way but still within reach.

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« Reply #3085 on: December 07, 2017, 01:48:44 pm »
You could likely extend your topmost shelves farther forward and tilt them downward a bit with a thin lip to hold stuff (plus I would also affix anchors to them just in case you get any ground movement) so the top frequency counter wasn't suspended forward like it is.

When I lived in CA. I got in the habit of attaching these very strong anchors to the sides of monitors and other big things that could cause major damage if were knocked off their shelves and fell. They were made by 3M. I don't know the name of the product, but it was sold widely for dealing with the effects of earthquakes and is STRONG. I also use it on windows where I am not confident of their locks. It's extremely strong, so strong its almost impossible to get it off of something you have put it onto. It might be able to support somebody's weight, that strong. The straps it comes with are elastic or an epoxy soaked fabric and they are also super strong but flexible. The idea is, you attach equipment on both sides downward to its shelves. And support it in its normal way, too.

Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?...   :scared:

We all need better cable management too - well labeled cables lend themselves to better organization.
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« Reply #3086 on: December 07, 2017, 04:06:53 pm »
When I said cables I was really thinking along the lines of couple of alloy slabs screwed across two ceiling joists, maybe something like four 3/8" or 1/2" dia stainless steel rods threaded into those and dropped down to hold the shelf. It was just easier to say cables to get the idea across... Nobody ever accused me of making something not up to the job :)
 

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« Reply #3087 on: December 07, 2017, 10:10:16 pm »
Made a shelf/protective enclosure/sound deadening device today.   There is no mistaking when the power is on with the 7510.  Not the ideal wood to use, but it was left over scrap.  Cuts down the fan noise by about half, much better.



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« Reply #3088 on: December 08, 2017, 04:35:45 pm »
You are not used to Keithley equipment, the DMM7510 is nearly silent. My 2460 & 2280 makes much more noise in idle and when working hard they are trying to compete with a vacuum cleaner in noise levels.
 

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« Reply #3089 on: December 08, 2017, 05:27:09 pm »
I couldn't quite figure out why you'd need to protect the DMM from sound, but then it finally dawned on my the thing itself is noisy. I may need a bit of sleep.
 

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« Reply #3090 on: December 08, 2017, 05:34:39 pm »
I never found the 7510 too noisy on the bench.
But, as HKJ said, when the 2460 is in full power mode, it sounds like heavy work is being done.

You built an interesting cage for your 7510.
Looks more like it is well protected against something falling down on it.
 
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« Reply #3091 on: December 08, 2017, 06:07:11 pm »
I never found the 7510 too noisy on the bench.
But, as HKJ said, when the 2460 is in full power mode, it sounds like heavy work is being done.

You built an interesting cage for your 7510.
Looks more like it is well protected against something falling down on it.

Part of it is indeed for protection, but the primary goal was to add a shelf so I could set other equipment or DUT on top of it.  The noise reduction is a side benefit.

No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter.  I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.
 

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« Reply #3092 on: December 08, 2017, 07:09:41 pm »
No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter.  I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.

The 7510 is a very good meter, but I cannot follow your statement about simplicity of 34465A, as you can see above I have both meters and I do not really think of the Keysight as more simple, just as a simpler meter (I have not bought all extensions).
With Keysight I have the buttons, with Keithley I have to sweep sideways to find the options, both are easy to do. Depending on option and mode one is easier than the other, but mostly Keithley wins for me.
For logging from my computer Keysight wins (Big time), due to the lower noise, this also means I have many Keysight bench DMM's, but only one Keithley DMM.
 

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« Reply #3093 on: December 08, 2017, 07:34:00 pm »
No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter.  I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.

The 7510 is a very good meter, but I cannot follow your statement about simplicity of 34465A, as you can see above I have both meters and I do not really think of the Keysight as more simple, just as a simpler meter (I have not bought all extensions).
With Keysight I have the buttons, with Keithley I have to sweep sideways to find the options, both are easy to do. Depending on option and mode one is easier than the other, but mostly Keithley wins for me.
For logging from my computer Keysight wins (Big time), due to the lower noise, this also means I have many Keysight bench DMM's, but only one Keithley DMM.

I just seem to agree with the menu layout and structure with the Keysight more, but I have only had the Keithley a few days now.  Still learning my way around it.
 

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« Reply #3094 on: December 08, 2017, 08:35:31 pm »
I did move my workbench to new dedicated space and "lab" is forming.
 

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« Reply #3095 on: December 09, 2017, 12:37:48 am »
Nice calculator.  8)
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« Reply #3096 on: December 09, 2017, 09:15:27 am »
Nice calculator.  8)
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« Reply #3097 on: December 09, 2017, 09:25:22 am »
Sorry to join this aspect of the thread so late, but when it comes to hanging gear from the ceiling and putting stuff at odd angles you can't beat Mr Carlson's Lab:

Goodness knows what will happen to that place if an earthquake hits!

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« Reply #3098 on: December 09, 2017, 02:26:12 pm »
Sorry to join this aspect of the thread so late, but when it comes to hanging gear from the ceiling and putting stuff at odd angles you can't beat Mr Carlson's Lab:

Goodness knows what will happen to that place if an earthquake hits!

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« Reply #3099 on: December 11, 2017, 08:06:33 pm »
It's been said i have too many multimeters, i can't imagine why..

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