Windows is getting disgusting

[GEuser]

My 2Cents

I have just done a win7 64 fresh reinstall after some stuff stopped working (mainly update) as it had not been on the net for over a year , time flies! , I had removed the raid array this time (SSD) and just went single as I had a plan .

Anyways update still played up so gave up on that SSD , did a clone to the other ssd and download the free win10 and installed , it took a hour maybe 2 to realize I actually disliked it very much , not because it was different or too hard to relearn not really any reason at all except it stunk in the gui imo , kiddy stuff .

So I cloned the fresh win7 over the fresh win10 and that SSD actually updated from the start and I have not re-tried the other ssd yet , btw I have not installed that update KB?? for win10 experience thing .

So in short as win7 will not be supported soon and if they stick with the kiddy stuff I'll be looking for something else I reckon in the future , disappointingly so btw .

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

Imo

[AlxDroidDev]

If you want a "proper" Win7 install, there are several windows updates you need to disable. All of them are either related to telemetry (aka "call home"!), Win10 preparation, components and download. Specifically, these updates are:

kb3123862,kb3112343,kb3112336,kb3083711,kb3083710,kb3083325,kb3083324,kb3080149,kb3075853,kb3075851,kb3075249,kb3072318,kb3068708,kb3068707,kb3065988,kb3065987,kb3064683,kb3058168,kb3050267,kb3050265,kb3046480,kb3044374,kb3035583,kb3022345,kb3021917,kb3015249,kb3014460,kb3012973,kb2999226,kb2990214,kb2977759,kb2976978,kb2952664,kb2922324,kb2902907
   
If you want to know if any of these are currently installed in your Windows 7 system, run the command below. Nothing will be changed, it will just report which ones of these hotfixes/updates are installed. The command can be run from a command prompt (all of it is a single line):

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powershell -command get-hotfix -id kb3123862,kb3112343,kb3112336,kb3083711,kb3083710,kb3083325,kb3083324,kb3080149,kb3075853,kb3075851,kb3075249,kb3072318,kb3068708,kb3068707,kb3065988,kb3065987,kb3064683,kb3058168,kb3050267,kb3050265,kb3046480,kb3044374,kb3035583,kb3022345,kb3021917,kb3015249,kb3014460,kb3012973,kb2999226,kb2990214,kb2977759,kb2976978,kb2952664,kb2922324,kb2902907
If you want to manually force these updates to uninstall, run the commands below. I usually put it in a single .bat file:

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wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3123862
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3112343 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3112336 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3083711 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3083710 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3083325 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3083324 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3080149 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3075853 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3075851 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3075249 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3072318 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3068708 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3068707 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3065988 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3065987 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3064683 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3058168 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3050267 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3050265 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3046480 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3044374 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3035583 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3022345 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3021917 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3015249 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3014460 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:3012973 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2999226 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2990214 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2977759 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2976978 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2952664 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2922324 
wusa /uninstall /quiet /norestart /kb:2902907 

The commands above will uninstall all of the Win10 and telemetry related hotfixes/updates, in reverse order they have been installed. It is safe to run them even if the hotfix hasn't been installed (nothing will happen in such case). Some hotfixes take up to 10 min to be uninstalled. Reboot after running the commands, and then hide these hotfixes from Windows Update in the control panel so they don't get installed again.

If you are running a fresh win7 install, just hide these hotfixes before they get installed.

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

Your wish has been granted: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-operating-system-to-launch-in-next-decade/536990.html

[AntiProtonBoy]

Just use the Aegis script to do all the hard work:

https://tiny.cc/aegisvoat

[MrSlack]

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

http://reactos.org/

[GEuser]

Thanks for the time to do all that post AlxDroidDev , i'll tackle those tomorrow  , I did not mention in my post that I have not let all or most of those optional updates run and hid them so we'll see what's in there anyway , I'm waiting for more MBB (Mobile Broadband Data) next week but its great for your assumptions and assistance .

Re the bat file , just copy those in notepad and save as "all files"? , btw I use notepad++ its really good imo .

Re the Russians , about time too and thanks for the link to read , I hope there is BIG buttons to press on it , it would not surprise me if others were at it too out of necessity , at least there will be no worry's on getting spied on (an internal mind joke here) as its been happening for years via the western world but its supposed to be the east , so the east will not have to be catching up aye , imo ....

Thanks again .

[GEuser]

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

http://reactos.org/

That's going on the spare SSD (still).

Edited> https://reactos.org/wiki/Missing_ReactOS_Functionality#Introduced_in_Windows_7

[AlxDroidDev]

You're welcome!

Re the bat file , just copy those in notepad and save as "all files"? , btw I use notepad++ its really good imo .

Yes. Don't forget to add the .bat extension. If you have UAC enabled or are running from a non-privileged account, you will need to run as administrator.

For your convenience, I've attached the .bat file (zipped) below. It is exactly what I've posted above, but the report is shown after the unwanted hotfixes are removed.  I've used this .bat file on my windows 7 machines both at work and at home. It will also remove some telemetry components from Windows 2008 Server.

[Artlav]

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

Other than Linuxes, there is ReactOS... Which is nowhere near usability yet, but solves problems every now and then.

Your wish has been granted: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-operating-system-to-launch-in-next-decade/536990.html

Unfortunately, there is more money redistribution than actual work.

[GEuser]

You're welcome!

Re the bat file , just copy those in notepad and save as "all files"? , btw I use notepad++ its really good imo .

Yes. Don't forget to add the .bat extension. If you have UAC enabled or are running from a non-privileged account, you will need to run as administrator.

For your convenience, I've attached the .bat file (zipped) below. It is exactly what I've posted above, but the report is shown after the unwanted hotfixes are removed.  I've used this .bat file on my windows 7 machines both at work and at home. It will also remove some telemetry components from Windows 2008 Server.

Ok I'm about to do all that when i log off here , i'm not even bothering to check whats there , just clicka the file , thanks ..

[GEuser]

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

Other than Linuxes, there is ReactOS... Which is nowhere near usability yet, but solves problems every now and then.

Your wish has been granted: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-operating-system-to-launch-in-next-decade/536990.html

Unfortunately, there is more money redistribution than actual work.

That's sad to hear Artlay , i mean sad to hear that the no distribution to Me , cheers .

[GEuser]

You're welcome!

Re the bat file , just copy those in notepad and save as "all files"? , btw I use notepad++ its really good imo .

For your convenience, I've attached the .bat file (zipped) below. It is exactly what I've posted above, but the report is shown after the unwanted hotfixes are removed.  I've used this .bat file on my windows 7 machines both at work and at home. It will also remove some telemetry components from Windows 2008 Server.

I saw the bottom bits 'powershell -command get-hotfix -id'  in the bat file and removed them and then ran it not 2 minutes ago , all is well .

Then ran the powershell command and Red nothing , thanks ..

[mikerj]

Russia needs to invent a OS platform .

Other than Linuxes, there is ReactOS... Which is nowhere near usability yet, but solves problems every now and then.

I'd forgotten all about ReactOs.  It seems to have made some pretty big leaps in functionality since I last looked at it.

[rdl]

Once again, today, through Windows Update Microsoft has tried to force the "Get Windows 10" app on a computer of mine. Windows Update had it flagged as both "new" and "important".

It is neither.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583

Is Microsoft really that desperate?

[German_EE]

Yesterday I spent six hours removing all the 'Get Windows 10' nagware from the computers of a local company, I then billed them 300 Euro for my time and the money will probably be in my account this morning. The owner of the company plans to invoice Microsoft Germany*** for this amount and, if the invoice remains unpaid, the next step is the Small Claims Court through what is called the 'Mahnverfahren' process.

German law regarding unpaid bills are quite strict and under some circumstances the court can declare a company bankrupt if they do not pay their invoices. This could get interesting 



*** The secret here is to invoice the German office rather than the head office in the USA, that way everything will be dealt with under German law.

[MrSlack]

Similar rules in the UK. Justice is served against even the biggest companies including banks!

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2007/jan/20/accounts.saving

[Red Squirrel]

I hate the general direction of MS.  Cloud stuff, all the spying, trying to force updates etc...  I just disabled updates on my win7 machine for now, I only use it for gaming.  I know there's ways to stop win10, just did not really bother yet.

Linux Mint is my daily use machine as a few years ago.  Once you get going I find Linux is actually easier.  My only grippe with Linux is the lack of standardization.  Trying to google how to do something is like pulling teeth because each distro puts files or options in different places.  There needs to be a committee or something to try to encourage standards.

[CatalinaWOW]

I have been coexisting with W10 for a while.  Not liking it, but stuck with several programs I use that are Windows based that I haven't found suitable Linux alternatives for, plus developing programs that sell into that market. The last update infuriated me by removing IE from my system.  Didn't ask, just disappeared it.  I don't like Windows replacement, and already was using Chrome, but want IE for some web sites and for testing.

Since IE is their program it is probably totally legal, but wow.

[rdl]

It's their attitude that they have the right to take over control of your PC that has turned me against Microsoft. Well, that and the spying and data mining and uncontrollable telemetry. I've used Windows for over 20 years, but Windows 10 has forced me to draw a line in the sand.

[GEuser]

After what I did , and I have been watching what's going on since , and all that's been updated is MSE definitions since my post a few posts ago Get Windows 10 has just turned up near the clock and nothing has supposedly been updated !
Just came across this link looking for KB305583
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2922604/microsoft-windows/microsoft-re-re-re-issues-controversial-windows-10-advertising-patch-kb-3035583.html

[GEuser]

Looking about on the computer
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)

Installation date: ?25/?03/?2016 3:05 AM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Recommended

It was hidden anyway at the start , also only notify if updates are available and choose them if applicable is set , recommended ones are not even supposed to self install , yet it got in ?..

[TerraHertz]

This is not Windows related, but funny because it shows up Microsoft being retarded, as usual:

  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-24/microsofts-twitter-chat-robot-devolves-racist-homophobic-antisemitic-obama-bashing-p
  Microsoft's Twitter Chat Robot Quickly Devolves Into Racist, Homophobic, Nazi, Obama-Bashing Psychopath

So many LOLs with attempts at AI. Microsoft trying for AI seems particularly doomed, since Microsoft itself isn't intelligent, or even capable of understanding the concept of intelligence.
I'm looking forward to the day when MS pushes an auto-update intended to turn Win10 into their idea of an AI. "Because users will find it so helpful."

Best quote from that article:

“Godwin’s law.” This states as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches.

I didn't cut off the "one", they did. Non-technical writers mangling scientific/mathematical terminology is a given.

[Red Squirrel]

Am I also the only one that can't stand this whole "modern look".  Not only Windows, but a lot of websites now too.  Everything seems to be tailored for phones and tablets now, with bigger fisher price buttons and stuff.  Maybe I'm just old school, but I see mobile devices as accessories, not replacements for a real computer.  These companies will have to pry my computers from my cold dead hands, and it won't be without a fight.  I do bite. 

[zal42]

Am I also the only one that can't stand this whole "modern look".

You're not the only one by a longshot. It's just the latest fad, though. It will pass. Hopefully not to something worse.

[GEuser]

This is not Windows related, but funny because it shows up Microsoft being retarded, as usual:

  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-24/microsofts-twitter-chat-robot-devolves-racist-homophobic-antisemitic-obama-bashing-p
  Microsoft's Twitter Chat Robot Quickly Devolves Into Racist, Homophobic, Nazi, Obama-Bashing Psychopath

So many LOLs with attempts at AI. Microsoft trying for AI seems particularly doomed, since Microsoft itself isn't intelligent, or even capable of understanding the concept of intelligence.
I'm looking forward to the day when MS pushes an auto-update intended to turn Win10 into their idea of an AI. "Because users will find it so helpful."

Best quote from that article:

“Godwin’s law.” This states as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches.

I didn't cut off the "one", they did. Non-technical writers mangling scientific/mathematical terminology is a given.

I had a quick look and read of the link , it also could be the anti anti (the reverse reverse psychology) by the Skynet scenario , there are or would be absolutely all boundaries it'll cross as it ain't human , yet "is" intelligent imo .

Anyway I uninstalled that KB3035583 again and hidden it again and so far it has not been back .

All this drama with MS lately takes me back to when Steam (Pc game client) came out , it took over anything to do with the games and people loved the thing and probably still do , I refused to be involved at my cost ie: not playing the latest and greatest which coincidently all or seems like all have turned into mindless garbage for the kiddies , similarities to MS? , I defiantly know it's not just me getting older and less wiser , crakkin the sh_ts ? over for now , overanout .

[GEuser]

Am I also the only one that can't stand this whole "modern look".

You're not the only one by a longshot. It's just the latest fad, though. It will pass. Hopefully not to something worse.

I want to fill in here about 60 or so Ha Ha's as if doing a real long belly gut-wrenching long laugh , I'm lazy .

Ha !