How many pictures we can find what are take inside PCB's from both models. If original factory made 1102 or 1052, are there differencies or are these seen differencies only revision differences. (specially in PCB just after BNC connector.)
So far, none of the DS1052E internals I've seen have the 2nd switching relay in the front-end, which the 1102E seem to have.
- Mark
So far, none of the DS1052E internals I've seen have the 2nd switching relay in the front-end, which the 1102E seem to have.
My DS1052E (...with pictures of dual-relays...)
I can't imagine the R&D that would be involved in accurately counterfitting the Rigol DS1052E and getting it to perform similar to the true model, not to mention creating all of the injection molds for the various plastic components and buttons. Then they would have to source all of the analog parts....
Well, see ATTEN (now also Siglent). That's exactly what they do. The insides are like a photocopy of the Rigol's. Some people think that Rigol manufactures them for ATTEN, but they actually do the cloning themselves. And yes, that's theft of IP, and copyright infringement. And yes, that's China.
(But, no, that's not what anyone here was talking about. Just making up fake labels for real Rigol scopes.)
- Mark
I am positive that if you go onto the Rigol website you will see ATTEN scopes for sale too. Well at least the last time I went on you could...
I wonder how long it is before people start selling DS1102E/D labels for rebadging DS1052E/D units, for sure they won't be for sale for long but I bet someone tries. I'm in a quandry myself as I'll be using mine at work soon or rather our clients will be using it so I don't know how to explain away the fact that I have modded it
So far, none of the DS1052E internals I've seen have the 2nd switching relay in the front-end, which the 1102E seem to have.
My DS1052E (...with pictures of dual-relays...)
Thanks, Dynomo! That eliminates the only hardware-specific difference I was aware of. Since the firmware is identical, it's looking like there may be no hardware differences.
- Mark
Some more pics here
http://www.mikeb.vivaciti.net/rigolpics
I wonder how long it is before people start selling DS1102E/D labels for rebadging DS1052E/D units, for sure they won't be for sale for long but I bet someone tries. I'm in a quandry myself as I'll be using mine at work soon or rather our clients will be using it so I don't know how to explain away the fact that I have modded it
You're in a quandary? Why say anything at all? There's nothing to "explain", unless you're in the mood to brag.
- Mark
eer the client requested a 100 MHz scope be available, so it looks a bit funny if I set up a scope that say's on it's decal 50 MHz and then tell them it is 100 MHz
Some more pics here
http://www.mikeb.vivaciti.net/rigolpics
Thanks a lot, Mike, for taking the time. There are some shots in there I'd never seen before. I see your board is labeled DEMO6 (and flolic's was DEMO5). Also, they kind of cooked the 2005 Keyboard PCB when they soldered on the pots.
- Mark
P.S. One of the files (1477) doesn't seem to be accessible...
eer the client requested a 100 MHz scope be available, so it looks a bit funny if I set up a scope that say's on it's decal 50 MHz and then tell them it is 100 MHz
Ah, yes. I see. I guess that begs the question of if you knew you were to supply a 100 MHz scope for a Client, why you purchased a 50 MHz unit instead. But you don't have to explain yourself to me. At least I understand your dilemma now.
- Mark
P.S. Black electrical tape?
I am positive that if you go onto the Rigol website you will see ATTEN scopes for sale too. Well at least the last time I went on you could...
David, that surprises me. I've been monitoring the Rigol websites pretty carefully for almost 2 years now, and I've never seen an ATTEN product there. Perhaps you could supply a pointer?
Also, Rigol's Head of Service said that, "Atten lives like a kind of thief who never gets the respect." Doesn't sound like the kind of relationship where they'd host their (competitor's) products on their site. You can read his full commentary here, under the username RScope.
Also, Rigol filed a lawsuit against ATTEN for violation of copyrights, and won. You can find it with a Google search.
- Mark
Forgive me, must of been half asleep when I posted that comment. I was referring to the following site...
Thank you people who found this nice mod.
I just did the mod. But why is everyone using serial cable and some kind of terminal program?
I used the VB Rigol Visa Demo with an USB cable. Am i'm missing something ? Hack seems to be permanent after powercycle
btw. had to download visa441runtime , the one supplied with the CD didn't work in Windows 7.
The rigol as far as I know does not work under window Vista at least I had no success, I would assume that it is the same for Win7.
Try getting USB and Windows 7 64 bit to work!
so will that allow the rigol to work with the software they provide under vista/7 ?