EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Muttley Snickers]

I've now seen the light    and noticed that as soon as the light started to flicker his thumb went directly over onto the batteries possibly in an effort to apply pressure which could indicate that there was an intermittent battery contact, It is anyone's guess as to whether an intermittent contact was in fact the cause of the lights failure in the first place and perhaps the batteries only needed a slight movement or rotation to work correctly, I have a stack of gadgets where this contact problem frequently occurs and I wouldn't doubt that other people do as well.

The sleeves may have in fact brought the light back to life and sort of worked as intended but these people seem to derive pleasure by leaving everything else wide open for question and criticism, or they are just too plain stupid to see this, silly dimwits.

[EEVblog]

Farid has made a video where he demonstrates that Batteroo doesn't work...

https://youtu.be/VTkOv1Kph84

He switched it on twice and each time it came on at full brightness for a couple of seconds then flickered and dimmed to an unusable level. He clumsily tried to hide the failure by tilting the mirror away from the camera.

That's hilarious! 

"It's work so it's a good investment".
Of course it bloody "works", it's a boost converter.
Wow, when you have to get your family member to do a video demoing you must be getting desperate.

[Hensingler]

Wow, when you have to get your family member to do a video demoing you must be getting desperate.

Saves them paying the guy with the accordion $500.

[StillTrying]

Well I knew that finding 1 product per month that the batteriser improves would be a tough challenge, but that's ridiculous.    ... but fun. 

[FrankBuss]

Wow, when you have to get your family member to do a video demoing you must be getting desperate.

Maybe he is just trying to help. But Bob Roohparvar might be not amused. Ouch!

[McBryce]

I thought he's a Doctor of Pastoral Sciences? Surely he only needs to give the batteries some comforting words in a soothing voice to make them good again?

McBryce.

[HighVoltage]

That's hilarious! 

I find it most hilarious when he puts the first batteriser in the slot at 0:52 and pinches his finger and even shouts out "AU"
What a funny family
 

[Halcyon]

Video downloaded before the other Rooh inevitably makes him remove it for making Batteroo look stupid.

If need be, it can be re-uploaded.

 

[free_electron]

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... What's that sound a duck makes again?

You can pick from today's menu :

Duck with Pineapple
Duck with Cherries
Duck Surprise.

What is Duck surprise ?
Duck without pineapple or cherries

What if you don't like duck ?
then you are rather stuck and out of luck ...

[tszaboo]

http://eu.mouser.com/new/RECOM/recom-power-r-78s-converter/
RECOM Power R-78S 0.1A SIP4 Single Output DC-DC Converter features an input voltage range of 0.65V to 3.15V and runs from single-cell batteries. The voltage range of the R-78S means that alkaline, NiCd, NiMH, zinc-carbon, or lithium chemistry cells can be used to generate a stable 3.3V output. This 3.3V output can power microprocessors, WLAN/Bluetooth® modules, and Internet of Things (IoT) systems. R-78S also provides high efficiency (93%) and low standby consumption (7µA input current in standby), extending battery lifetimes.

"Wow it must be using the batteriser® technology"

[Fungus]

http://eu.mouser.com/new/RECOM/recom-power-r-78s-converter/
RECOM Power R-78S 0.1A SIP4 Single Output DC-DC Converter features an input voltage range of 0.65V to 3.15V and runs from single-cell batteries. The voltage range of the R-78S means that alkaline, NiCd, NiMH, zinc-carbon, or lithium chemistry cells can be used to generate a stable 3.3V output. This 3.3V output can power microprocessors, WLAN/Bluetooth® modules, and Internet of Things (IoT) systems. R-78S also provides high efficiency (93%) and low standby consumption (7µA input current in standby), extending battery lifetimes.

"Wow it must be using the batteriser® technology"

This one costs ten times less and can produce 5V DC output from only 0.9V battery input voltage, it must be made of 100% pure unicorn poop or something:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=5v+dc+booster+0.9v

They work, too! I used one to charge my smartphone 8 times from a single Duracell AA.

[Brumby]

Just thought I'd share this graphic.

It's a composite with no real attempt at accuracy of scales, which is why I have removed any numerical references.  It is just to illustrate the battery level indicator issue.  The axes are essentially Voltage over Time, but don't try comparing one curve with another - other than the amount of time spent in each of the battery indicator levels.

I have arbitrarily assigned 5 levels.  3 green from high to medium, 1 yellow 'warning' level and a red 'critical' level.

The blue line is, obviously, a typical battery discharge curve.

The black line is an 'ideal' converter - with good regulation.  I included this because this is the sort of expectation that existed in the absence of any data from Batteroo.  There was a long time where this was the only game in town - so it is relevant for understanding discussion during that time.

The red line is an actual Batteroo sleeve result I pinched from one of the charts posted here.

Image is Superceded


Thought it might be a useful illustration.....

[Cerebus]

Thought it might be a useful illustration.....

For a general audience I'd take issue with the description 'ideal converter'. I know what you mean, but the average member of the public (AMOTP) would take 'ideal' to mean 'what we really want' rather than 'theoretically perfect'. To an AMOTP an ideal converter would smoothly handle both the 'extending battery life' issue and 'making the battery level indicator do what I expect' issue. A better, if wordy, tag would be 'theoretically perfect converter' but I'm sure a few minutes thought would yield something a bit less clunky-sounding than that.

[drussell]

For a general audience I'd take issue with the description 'ideal converter'. I know what you mean, but the average member of the public (AMOTP) would take 'ideal' to mean 'what we really want' rather than 'theoretically perfect'.

I would just say "Typical DC-DC Converter".

[Brumby]

Thought about it - and have come up with this wording.  I used this to help clarify the fact that the early discussions were based on a typical design concept.



Wording aside, I think it shows the battery level issue pretty well.  (I know it's not perfect - but it doesn't aim to be - just adequate for the job.)

[Hensingler]

https://youtu.be/VTkOv1Kph84

That's hilarious! 

Surprisingly he has been replying to comments sounding like a petulant teenager.

[EEVblog]

Surprisingly he has been replying to comments sounding like a petulant teenager.

LOL


"I don't care who made it" as if he's trying to make out he's not related to them!

More:

[EEVblog]

Even when the Battriser is done and dusted, it keeps delivering comedy gold!

[EEVblog]

 

[StuUK]

Crikey, on the one hand calls her a pathetic moron and then accuses her of having a antisocial personality disorder? really?

[Brumby]

I think he might have been looking in that mirror of his.

[daveake]

For the continuing record ...



No doubt these investor comments will get deleted soon, as usual.

[tszaboo]

Surprisingly he has been replying to comments sounding like a petulant teenager.

LOL

"I don't care who made it" as if he's trying to make out he's not related to them!

More:

I dont know what kind of moron do you have to be to save 50 dollars a year on rechargeable batteries.
50 dollars, at the current 12 dollar for 48 AA Amazonbasic, is 200 batteries. A year.
When do you think is the right time to buy a good bunch of rechargeable batteries?
Considering that the betteriser is more expensive than the re-branded Eneloops?? Considering that they dont work in real life situations, unlike the secondary batteries??

[daveake]

Saves them paying the guy with the accordion $500.

Except that the T&C's exclude him:

This Contest is also not open to employees or independent contractors, or immediate family members (spouses, domestic partners, parents, grandparents, siblings, children, and grandchildren)

Shucks.

[Hensingler]

Except that the T&C's exclude him:

This Contest is also not open to employees or independent contractors, or immediate family members (spouses, domestic partners, parents, grandparents, siblings, children, and grandchildren)

Shucks.

You think Batteroo are any more likely to deliver on this claim than all their others?