New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope

[bitseeker]

It's not the scope itself anymore that is the hobby, or a "project" of it's own, but people simply use it.

Exactly. Even with the previous version of the firmware, not all the issues were surfaced right away. I don't generally update immediately, yet I had finished updating my scope before Rigol pulled the firmware for having problems with older scopes. So, it may take some time for something to pop up through normal use.

[xrunner]

New firmware is available - or do my eyes deceive me? 

2017-04-18 is today ...

[Daruosha]

New firmware is available - or do my eyes deceive me? 

2017-04-18 is today ...

Strangely when I downloaded the firmware, in the release note it says:
v00.04.04.01.01  2016/09/14
     - Supported the multi-inteface of LXI
     - Fixed bugs about Measure

and the firmware version on the download link is something totally wrong!! WTF!

[frozenfrogz]

Horse manure much.

[xrunner]

Strangely when I downloaded the firmware, in the release note it says:
v00.04.04.01.01  2016/09/14
     - Supported the multi-inteface of LXI
     - Fixed bugs about Measure

and the firmware version on the download link is something totally wrong!! WTF!

I just tried an update and the scope says I already have the same version! 

[Daruosha]

Strangely when I downloaded the firmware, in the release note it says:
v00.04.04.01.01  2016/09/14
     - Supported the multi-inteface of LXI
     - Fixed bugs about Measure

and the firmware version on the download link is something totally wrong!! WTF!

I just tried an update and the scope says I already have the same version! 

Bunch of careless webmaster/operators I'd say.

[xrunner]

I knew it was too good to be true. 

[Sredni]

'fess up, deep down you hoped for that "Pluses" fix!

[frozenfrogz]

In case anyone wonders: Latest Software is v.00.04.04.03.02, discussed in this thread.

Should I upload the latest file somewhere, since Rigol somehow screwed up again?

Edit: Added direct link to latest software from Rigol site

[bitseeker]

So, what's the deal with the new date? Just part of the web site snafu?

[xrunner]

So, what's the deal with the new date? Just part of the web site snafu?

 

I just checked and the internal rar file is still the old one. I was hoping that they were going to update the "payload" later today, but it didn't happen. I think a jokester at Rigol knows that we all freak out when we see updated firmware, and was just wanting to see how we would react to the date. 

'fess up, deep down you hoped for that "Pluses" fix!

I've been dreaming of it, for months. Same as them fixing the upside down .jpg screen shot that the DSA815 does LOL. 

[bitseeker]

Maybe April Fools is on the 18th for them.

[borjam]

So, what's the deal with the new date? Just part of the web site snafu?

These Chinese companies still don't know much about brand image and all that crap. Just look at the Rigol logos.

Look at the logo here:
http://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/fs/blocks/showLandingPage/a/1579/p/p-0019/t/page/fm/0

And compare to the logo here:
http://int.rigol.com

I guess it's different teams managing both websites. I wouldn't be surprised if the "beyondmeasure" URL was somehow
meant for internal use/special access to select distributors or whatever.

[xrunner]

And compare to the logo here:
http://int.rigol.com

I don't think I ever saw that one before, or I didn't pay attention to the text.

"Innovation or Nothing"

What an odd statement. 

[xrunner]

Aha, just downloaded it, now the payload of the rar file is updated. Just installed it on the scope. The system reports -

Before: 00.04.04.SP1

After: 00.04.04.SP3

In case anyone wonders: Latest Software is v.00.04.04.03.02 ...

That's what the file folder says when you extract it.

[mauroh]

Looking on the last pages I can say that I have a really old Boot Version 0.0.0.11 compared to the common 0.0.1.2 or 0.0.1.3 I see frequently.

Does the Boot Version will be upgraded performing the software upgrade or it will remain the same?
It need to be done separately with an oldest release?

I was wandering if a minimim Boot Version is required before attempting the latest upgrade, I read the release note and can't spot it.

Thanks
Mauro

[ebastler]

"Innovation or Nothing"
What an odd statement. 

Indeed. "Dear customers, for this new product we have decided to go with the 'nothing' approach. Expect some innovation with our next new launch." 

I think it's safe to assume that the motto is based on a more meaningful Chinese original. Probably someone in Rigol's US organization has objected long ago, and established the "Beyond Measure" tag line -- which I find quite clever actually, but which apparently hasn't made to all English-speaking parts of the company.

[frozenfrogz]

Updating the bootloader seems possible through a different firmware file, see: page 79 of this thread. Please go from there
Also, here is some info on unique capabilities of the older boot version: How to downgrade DS1000Z FW

How well your scope likes the new firmware without boot version update, I don’t know. In case you are fearless and go for the whole experience, please let us know how it all went and also:

If someone can point us / me towards the latest "Boot Version" update file, that would be nice. I would want to include that in the buglist / update thread.

[ebastler]

Updating the bootloader seems possible through a different firmware file, see: page 79 of this thread. Please go from there
Also, here is some info on unique capabilities of the older boot version: How to downgrade DS1000Z FW

How well your scope likes the new firmware without boot version update, I don’t know. In case you are fearless and go for the whole experience, please let us know how it all went and also:

If someone can point us / me towards the latest "Boot Version" update file, that would be nice. I would want to include that in the buglist / update thread.

Post #1964, on page 79 of this thread, mentions version 04.00.00.00 as the last one confirmed to include a boot loader update. A copy is hosted at http://www.gotroot.ca/rigol/DS1000Z-04_00_00_00.7z (in 7-zip format, whatever that is...). There is contradictory information on that page whether the later 04.01.02.00 also included a boot loader update.

Also some unclear statements in posts #1968 ff. whether that old boot loader update can still be installed once you have a more recent firmware in place. The posts seem to say that the answer is "no", but I am not sure whether everybody clearly distinguished between boot loader and firmware there. (We know that it is not possible to downgrade the firmware. But does Rigol really prevent you from upgrading the boot loader, if the firmware version has been upgraded even further in the meantime? Doesn't make sense to me...)

[frozenfrogz]

Thank you ebastler,

maybe I should contact Rigol on this, since poking in the dark will not really move things forward.

Edit: I made an account over at the "official" Rigol forum and filed a request for some info on upgradeability of boot version vs. software version and asked for the latest boot version update files etc.
Will keep you posted..

[bitseeker]

Post #1964, on page 79 of this thread, mentions version 04.00.00.00 as the last one confirmed to include a boot loader update. A copy is hosted at http://www.gotroot.ca/rigol/DS1000Z-04_00_00_00.7z (in 7-zip format, whatever that is...).

7-Zip is an open-source archive tool: http://www.7-zip.org/

Supported formats:

• Packing / unpacking: 7z, XZ, BZIP2, GZIP, TAR, ZIP and WIM
• Unpacking only: AR, ARJ, CAB, CHM, CPIO, CramFS, DMG, EXT, FAT, GPT, HFS, IHEX, ISO, LZH, LZMA, MBR, MSI, NSIS, NTFS, QCOW2, RAR, RPM, SquashFS, UDF, UEFI, VDI, VHD, VMDK, WIM, XAR and Z.

[mauroh]

Guinea-Pig mode ON!!!!

I just upgraded my DS1104Z (it was a DS1074Z) with the latest firmware.
As expected the Boot Version remain the old one and everything went fine.
I successfully performed a Self-Cal and attached you can see the traces almost perfectly aligned to the zero reference as before the upgrade.

I'll use it normally and let you know if something will go wrong.

Mauro

[ted572]

The following procedure can be used to  Sanitize Memory in the DS1000Z Series Oscilloscopes  This is similar to the procedure released by Rigol (Titled: Sanitization of memory with the DS1000Z series of oscilloscopes) with some additional details.

Edit Added -> Re-Calibration Requirement: Sanitization of the instrument's memory will of course erase the stored Self-Calibration values.  Therefore it is important to perform Self-Calibration following Sanitization.

[frozenfrogz]

Edit: I made an account over at the "official" Rigol forum and filed a request for some info on upgradeability of boot version vs. software version and asked for the latest boot version update files etc.
Will keep you posted..

Fuck the rigol.desk.com support site by the way!

My request for info on boot version updates, software rollback etc. just got flagged as "resolved" together with a note saying "We have not posted your question yet."
I can not even click the "I still have an issue with this" button.
Marvelous!

[asliyucegsm]

My friend doing flash erase damaging device
ds1054z
thanks