New Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope

[MarkF]

Rigol firmware is available on Rigol North America:
   https://www.rigolna.com/firmware/

Rigol only has the latest firmware versions available.
Besides, the DS1000Z will NOT load older firmware versions unless you jump through hoops (IIRC the procedure is earlier in this thread).

Note:   DO NOT confuse the DS1000Z with the two channel DS1000Z-E.
The firmware is not compatible.

[Shock]

So nothing later than - 00.04.05.02.00  2021/07/24?

[mqsaharan]

Hi Shock,
The attached file is from the following link:
https://supportcn.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/files/ftp/Firmware/DS1000Z(ARM)Updatev00.04.05.02.04.zip
This is the latest file at Rigol Chinese website as mentioned in Reply#4732 by PawelW.
Please don't just look at the firmware version, take a look at the release notes inside this zip, too.

[rob040]

...This is the latest file at Rigol Chinese website as mentioned in Reply#4732 by PawelW....

Actually, it isn't.
It is the one that is mentioned by Mr Smile in Reply#4750 (same version number, new content).

[Njk]

The nand flash entry came with the February update and I agree, that this might not be of interest for older scopes.
But the "startup exception reminder" from May could be useful.
I ask myself:
- Why the heck two updates with the same number?
- What does a "startup exception reminder" do, that needs 14% more firmware space?
- Will it blend brick?
 

With the conventional version numbering scheme, changed rightmost number means a minor maintenance update, e.g. because of new parts type. But it seems Rigol uses the numbering in a more creative way. Let's hope the space usage is increased because the code was compiled in a bit different way so now it's of greater size but runs faster. Besides, there can be a UI differences. For instance, v.00.04.05.02.03 can be differentiated from v.00.04.05.02.02 by additional items in the left-side menu (see https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-ds1000z-series-buglist-continued-(from-fw-00-04-04-03-02)/msg4855160/#msg4855160). There are two new items indeed. So the only way to find out what's actually new in the 00.04.05.04.04 is to install it.

Edit: at least, the recent events means the thing is not completely abandoned and some one there is still working on it

[Shock]

Thanks MarkF and mqsaharan.

Must have been doing a backup or something, I tried again and could download these so far at the time of posting (subject to change). I confirmed the GEL as well as the file date makes sense.

00.04.05.02.04  2023/05/16 GEL
https://supportcn.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/files/ftp/Firmware/DS1000Z(ARM)Updatev00.04.05.02.04.zip

00.04.05.02.02 2021/09/22 GEL (Release notes inaccurate/not updated)
https://www.rigolna.com/firmware/
https://www.rigol.com/products/detail/DS1000Z

00.04.05.02.02 2021-10-14 corrupt file?
00.04.04.04.03 2019-08-29 GEL (old)
https://www.rigol.eu/SUPPORTS/software-firmware-download_5.html

00.04.05.02.02 2021-10-14 corrupt file?
https://www.rigol.eu/products/oscillosopes/ds1000zds1000z.html

If anyone has other versions from Rigol they can link, please do so.
00.04.05.02.01
00.04.05.02.03
00.04.05.02.04 (apparent second version)

[MarkF]

Are you collecting firmware???

Here is a list of all the versions I have.
Rigol's releases did not consecutive numbers AFAIK.

[RoGeorge]

If anyone has other versions from Rigol they can link, please do so.

Almost all former versions were already attached, or at least linked, somewhere in this topic.
What for do you need them?

[Shock]

Update the firmware of my choice, that ok with you?

[MarkF]

Update the firmware of my choice, that ok with you?

Like I said earlier, you can not update the scope to an older firmware version.

If I understand the procedure correctly, you modify an older version into a minor minor newer version than you currently have installed.  Therefore, tricking the scope into thinking it's a newer version but it's really not.  You can see if you do this a lot you might surpass the next update from Rigol.  Maybe someone here can confirm this.

[MarkF]

Personally, I run the latest firmware from the Rigol North America site and don't fool with these strange versions on the China site.  It almost seems like the latest few on the China site are really 'release candidates' that have not been flushed out yet.  IMHO, I believe the North America firmware is slightly slower to get updated but it's a more stable version.

But, you're free to experiment all you want.

[Fungus]

... tricking the scope into thinking it's a newer version but it's really not.  You can see if you do this a lot you might surpass the next update from Rigol.

But if you've had practice it will be easy to modify the new version, too. 

[RoGeorge]

Update the firmware of my choice, that ok with you?

You care if I'm OK with that?  That would have been nice. 
Though it sounded like you were aggressive for no reason.

I was hoping you were making some reverse engineering, and looking for something in particular, something you were hoping might be found in the past versions, that's why I've asked what for do you need them.

can not update the scope to an older firmware version

It is possible to downgrade, or to load arbitrary FW version.  Did that once, only to realize the previous FW version that I thought it was better has heaving the same behavior, so reverted back to the latest firmware.

In order to downgrade, you'll have to make a Rigol-signed disk, it is attached in this post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg3613778/#msg3613778

How to make one, then how to use the attached "Rigol_sign_disk.zip" (in order to make the oscilloscope to accept any arbitrary firmware version) is at the very end of that link, posted as code.  That disk will spare you of manually editing the version, and/or to recalculate the checksums of the .gel file.

[Shock]

You care if I'm OK with that?  That would have been nice. 
Though it sounded like you were aggressive for no reason.

I was hoping you were making some reverse engineering, and looking for something in particular, something you were hoping might be found in the past versions, that's why I've asked what for do you need them.

Nope, just wanted the latest few firmware urls.

[Njk]

Personally, I run the latest firmware from the Rigol North America site and don't fool with these strange versions on the China site.  It almost seems like the latest few on the China site are really 'release candidates' that have not been flushed out yet.  IMHO, I believe the North America firmware is slightly slower to get updated but it's a more stable version.

Yes but it seems currently the units are shipped from the factory with a more recent firmware. For that units, the "stable" version may be unsuitable. So there is a mechanism that prevents downgrading. Of course, if one is curious and determined enough, he can find a way to bypass it, to invoke more trouble on himself. OTOH, the latest China versions actually incorporate a new feature, which is related to "one-key measurement of 37 parameters". They finally replaced the Variation nonsense with something more useful (AC.Vrms). It's not possible to enjoy it with the versions from the NA and EU web sites.

[RoGeorge]

Mine (with FW v00.04.05.SP2) has on the left side of the screen a button for 'Vrms' and one for 'Variance', but no 'AC.Vrms'.

What is 'AC.Vrms', or what's the difference between 'Vrms' and 'AC.Vrms'?

[Njk]

Vrms takes into account AC+DC voltages. AC.Vrms ignores DC offset. The help info is also updated accordingly.

[iMo]

That is a good fix, as the older version of Vrms does Vrms with the DC offset calculated in. Now the AC.Vrms (with DC coupling and DC offset) perhaps calculates the stddev basically.

[Njk]

AC.Vrms seems working properly. Stddev is what was previously named Variance (according to its definition by the equation 6-4 in the manual. That is hinted by the tiny D letter in its icon). It's not a measured value, it's a meta data that can be displayed in the statistical information for every item. That's why it was weird to see a dedicated icon for stddev. Now it's actually removed.

[Pierre_Montreal]

I have the DS1054z Software version: 00.04.05.SP2

and I am able to clear these grayed measurements  by changing the font size ! It seems that when the scope change the font size it clear the measurements and it the redraw them. Try it.

[rob040]

There is again a new SW version available on the Chinese website: v00.04.05.02.08

[Supported Model]    All the MSO/DS1000Z Series Digital Oscilloscopes
[Latest Revision Date]  2023/07/6

[Updated Contents]
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v00.04.05.02.08  2023/08/21
    -made some optimizations.

[History]
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v00.04.05.02.07  2023/07/06
     -Optimized the startup problem of the previous version

v00.04.05.02.06  2023/06/30
     -Solve the problem that some machines cannot be started after being left for a long time

v00.04.05.02.05  2023/05/29
     -Added new nandflash driver and original nandflash compatibility

[Sredni]

They have a bug as big as a barn when the scope is on a certain time base at a certain memory depth, and instead of fixing it... They make "some" optimizations.

SMH.

[ebastler]

They have a bug as big as a barn when the scope is on a certain time base at a certain memory depth

Could you describe the bug conditions in more detail or point me to the relevant forum discussion? I have not encountered it myself and haven't come across it on the forum -- but have not been following the DS1054Z discussions closely for years. Thanks!

[Adrian_Arg.]

Rigol 1054z and 1074z timing problems at 500ms timescale and 24M memory depth
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-1054z-and-1074z-timing-problems-at-500ms-timescale-and-24m-memory-depth/

[Adrian_Arg.]

rob040, Can you share the download link from the latest firmware update?