EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[EEVblog]

They are "in transit"

You have to wonder who wrote that email?, it sounds like one of their silly Facebook page responses.
If they were truly "in transit" i.e. on the delivery truck, you can bet your arse that Bob would be crowing about it and wanting to silence the critics.

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If they were truly "in transit" i.e. on the delivery truck, you can bet your arse that Bob would be crowing about it and wanting to silence the critics.

You'd better believe it!!

[boffin]

Looks like they've fooled another group of people to invest in them.

[Hugoneus]

I am really really eager to see the end result of this. 

[ez24]

I am really really eager to see the end result of this. 

That is kinda sad, it will when you end.

[Hugoneus]

I am really really eager to see the end result of this. 

That is kinda sad, it will when you end.

Why is it sad? I think the sooner this ends the better. The longer it gets dragged on the more chance more people would be fooled.

[ez24]

I am really really eager to see the end result of this. 

That is kinda sad, it will when you end.

Why is it sad? I think the sooner this ends the better. The longer it gets dragged on the more chance more people would be fooled.

Sorry I meant you are going to die before this will end,  ie there will be no end.  It will fade into the sunset along with the perpetrators.

[Rasz]

Looks like they've fooled another group of people to invest in them.

SKAT innopartners is SK Telecom, same clowns that provide fake office space for batterscam from the beginning

[Muttley Snickers]

We could give them the silent treatment and see how they like it.       

[EEVblog]

Looks like they've fooled another group of people to invest in them.

No, that's just an arm of the original investor SK Telecom.
Why they are suddenly promoting it I I'm not sure.

Part of me still thinks they are actually going to be stupid enough to ship something.
I think they (Batteroo) are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't want to ship because they know their product can't delivery even to close to what is promised, and there are thousands of engineers out there waiting to get their hands on it and test it and publish actual data, something Batteroo have never done, because, well, it would be embarrassing. This has been the industries biggest soap opera and everything is watching, and they know it.
On the other hand they have to eventually show their investors that this thing is a viable product (hence the latest post I guess), they are still talking up the wonders of this marvelous technology to them no doubt.

[EEVblog]

I think the sooner this ends the better. The longer it gets dragged on the more chance more people would be fooled.

There are only two ways this will end:
- It will wither away and die slowly, never shipping anything
- They will ship something and the game is up as far as we are concerned.

The thing with the latter though is that regardless of how much info is out there about how crap this product is, they will still be able to fool the Walmart's and KMart's of the world into an order, and that's scary. And I think they are in it for this long game. They have no intention of selling onesies and twosies to customers, that's a nothing business. And the odds of selling the company are pretty dismal now that their patent looks to be in trouble (any update on that?). So it's big order or bust.

There are people who think the Baterroo Brothers intention is to simply run off with the money. It's not. They are "serial entrepreneurs" and want to either flip the company for a profit and/or make that zillion dollar deal with Walmart.

[ez24]

The thing with the latter though is that regardless of how much info is out there about how crap this product is, they will still be able to fool the Walmart's and KMart's of the world into an order, and that's scary.

Here in the US we have 99 cent stores that are full of things that don't work.  It is also a market for them.  (FYI sometimes there are good things there - so I shop at them  )

[dcac]

It's going to be interesting to see how long this (vague) "In transit" thing is going to last.

It seems to show though that the Baite-ruse Brothers dare not post yet another delay excuse update.

[Cyberdragon]

It won't just end if they ship it, it would get far worse.

We would just beat the absolute shit out of them with even more science and actual evidence. It would be better for them to just die. If they ever stuck their head out by shipping, it would be like pneumatic hammer whack-a-mole!

[kalleboo]

The thing with the latter though is that regardless of how much info is out there about how crap this product is, they will still be able to fool the Walmart's and KMart's of the world into an order

The fact that they've failed so far could be a sign that the purchasers at the big chains are smart enough not to bet on it.

You do see them sell the "as seen on TV!" junk, but that stuff is usually worded carefully so it's not an outright lie. All of Batteroo's claims meanwhile are easily falsifiable.

[StuUK]

Guess they know something we don't  or was this Oct 24 2015?

[ccs46]

Here in the US we have 99 cent stores that are full of things that don't work.  It is also a market for them.  (FYI sometimes there are good things there - so I shop at them  )

Maybe they will ship to Europe too? I hear theres stores called Poundland over there, usually filled with crap. 

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... or was this Oct 24 2015?

I think you will find it is this ^  ^  ^




Great, isn't it?

We are now dealing with dates - not for their day or month - but for their year.

[StuUK]

I did wonder.... ah well I guess it's well on the road to silent obscurity/best forgotten and never mentioned again by those embarrassed to promote it....

[ccs46]

Guess they know something we don't  or was this Oct 24 2015?

That was October 24th, 2016 alright. Otherwise it would have the year after it. Maybe they do know something we don't? 

One things for sure, I and probably everyone else on this forum would love to be a fly on the wall at their "offices" right now... 

I think you will find it is this ^  ^  ^




Great, isn't it?

We are now dealing with dates - not for their day or month - but for their year.

That is what they will claim. (corporate ass-covering) But I think Twitter shows the year if the tweet is more than a year old.

[kalleboo]

But I think Twitter shows the year if the tweet is more than a year old.

In my Japanese locale it shows the year as 2016

[Brumby]

OK - maybe it is 2016....

... but the fact that the year was even in question, reflects on the state of things rather tellingly.


Even more so when you can find that same photo ... published in July and August of 2015.

[ccs46]

OK - maybe it is 2016....

... but the fact that the year was even in question, reflects on the state of things rather tellingly.

Indeed.

[SL4P]

Those product shots can't be 'new stock' for ready release, as they are still infringing with the old 'BATTERISER' name.

We have reached the point of 'run it into the ground', and claim the the tax losses.

End of story for the backers.

[McBryce]

One things for sure, I and probably everyone else on this forum would love to be a fly on the wall at their "offices" right now... 

Not a chance, you could get hit by a door being kicked in by some industrial spies trying to steal their "secrets"!

McBryce.