EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[5ky]

Anyway, will be fun to see the final verdict when(/if) Dave gets his paws on one.

So, whatever happened to those "Press Kit" units?
Weren't they like one week away from shipping those after some "exclusive" with some website?

There's a "press kit" button at the top of their web site.

Apparently you have to email "dan@jprcom.com"

I bet they make you sign one helluva release form.

But let's not kid ourselves: they haven't released press kits for good reason.  Press kits are a big deal for getting hype going, but when your product doesn't do as it claims.........

[daqq]

When they fail, the blame will be firmly pointed at "Those bloggers and naysayers who spread all those lies and slander about our amazing product and turned thousands of customers away, causing the startup to fail so we couldn't get any finished products out".

Oh I'm quite sure that they'll ship something - a step up DC DC converter is well within the realm of possible. Whether it will have the desired effect is another matter entirely.

[Fungus]

When they fail, the blame will be firmly pointed at "Those bloggers and naysayers who spread all those lies and slander about our amazing product and turned thousands of customers away, causing the startup to fail so we couldn't get any finished products out".

It would be VERY easy to shut the naysayers up. It would be VERY easy to prove to the press that it works.

(Assuming you have a working product. If you don't, well... not so easy  )

[AF6LJ]

When they fail, the blame will be firmly pointed at "Those bloggers and naysayers who spread all those lies and slander about our amazing product and turned thousands of customers away, causing the startup to fail so we couldn't get any finished products out".

It would be VERY easy to shut the naysayers up. It would be VERY easy to prove to the press that it works.

(Assuming you have a working product. If you don't, well... not so easy  )

As if saying it will work changes the laws of physics.

[ErikTheNorwegian]

I was thinking about their product the other day. I got a lot of remote-controllers that are used from daily bases to sometimes once a month. Every so often, some of them don’t work, and I have to open the battery lid, and role the batteries round a couple of times with my finger. And then they work fine.  I guess that its oxidation on the battery poles/contacts that make a bad connection, high resistance. This happens with calculators and other stuff to. Even with good brand batteries.
In these kind of circumstances the user that clip on a “Batteriser”  will be fooled to think that it works… A trick for the Batteriser is also to coat the poles with somthing, so they oxidate, and then clip on the Batterizer that will cut tru the oxidation and "Bobs your unckle"!
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[Fungus]

So, whatever happened to those "Press Kit" units?

There's a "press kit" button at the top of their web site.

I bet they make you sign one helluva release form.

Right now I bet you won't get much more than a PDF of their web site via email.

[miguelvp]

Oh, about those professional looking fan commercials, they didn't cost that much, so I guess they are not rolling in big bucks.

Twins:
https://www.fiverr.com/theadtwins/create-a-promotional-video-featuring-twins

Magician:
https://www.fiverr.com/angelinoperafan/do-magic-with-your-logo-or-text

Australian Nature Guy:
https://www.fiverr.com/coreworkouts/enthusiastically-talk-about-your-product-like-an-australian-nature-enthusiast-watch-video

It's a pretty cool site that fiverr thing

[samgab]

Oh, about those professional looking fan commercials, they didn't cost that much, so I guess they are not rolling in big bucks.

Twins:
https://www.fiverr.com/theadtwins/create-a-promotional-video-featuring-twins

Magician:
https://www.fiverr.com/angelinoperafan/do-magic-with-your-logo-or-text

Australian Nature Guy:
https://www.fiverr.com/coreworkouts/enthusiastically-talk-about-your-product-like-an-australian-nature-enthusiast-watch-video

It's a pretty cool site that fiverr thing

Oh wow, they splashed out on the $15 trifecta of lame! 

I wonder how much the professor cost for his comments endorsing the product. I mean the twins, the "Ozzy guy", and the "magician" had obviously never set eyes on a batteriser yet they endorsed it...

[miguelvp]

I bet it did cost more than $15 because extra time and other things, but probably way less than $50 per video if it was even that much. Even at $200 per video it's not like a lot of mula.

What is strange is that for a fiverr you can get someone to design you a circuit

https://www.fiverr.com/keyuracharya/design-schematic-and-layout-for-pcb

there are others too.

[drussell]

I wonder how much the professor cost for his comments endorsing the product. I mean the twins, the "Ozzy guy", and the "magician" had obviously never set eyes on a batteriser yet they endorsed it...

Being paid to be an actor in a commercial is completely different from actually endorsing a product...

[miguelvp]

Now I wonder if the person who ordered the promotional videos charged them way more of what he paid?

Probably so, after all transitions and overlays are expensive to create

[AmmoJammo]

But that means their whole advertising campaign was based on lies?

Those videos state:

A fan submitted this to our official Batteriser Fan Page and we loved it! They wanted Batteriser to know they have full permission to use this video for commercials or online ads!

I only count 42ish words for the "Nature Man" video.... 5 dolla!

[miguelvp]

fiverr also has people that will watch videos and add likes to social media, one wonders if you can also get thumbsdowns as well.

[EEVblog]

Oh, about those professional looking fan commercials, they didn't cost that much, so I guess they are not rolling in big bucks.
Twins:
https://www.fiverr.com/theadtwins/create-a-promotional-video-featuring-twins
Magician:
https://www.fiverr.com/angelinoperafan/do-magic-with-your-logo-or-text
Australian Nature Guy:
https://www.fiverr.com/coreworkouts/enthusiastically-talk-about-your-product-like-an-australian-nature-enthusiast-watch-video
It's a pretty cool site that fiverr thing

Nice find!
Everyone who's making a Batteriser video should hire them to be in it 

[EEVblog]

I mean the twins, the "Ozzy guy", and the "magician" had obviously never set eyes on a batteriser yet they endorsed it...

And yet the "fan page" guy swears black and blue they were genuine fans 

[EEVblog]

I wonder how much the professor cost for his comments endorsing the product. I mean the twins, the "Ozzy guy", and the "magician" had obviously never set eyes on a batteriser yet they endorsed it...

Being paid to be an actor in a commercial is completely different from actually endorsing a product...

Of course. The problem is how Batteriser have made out they are genuine fans who submitted a video.

[onlooker]

So, hypothetically, one can also hire them to testify,  on video for $5 each, about how much Betteriser devices suck.

It will be interesting to see both pro and con videos played at the same time.

[miguelvp]

So, hypothetically, one can also hire them to testify,  on video for $5 each, about how much Betteriser devices suck.

It will be interesting to see both pro and con videos played at the same time.

I would think most of those actors won't touch a negative campaign, just in case. Also I don't think anyone would need them, because of the gimmicky aspect, it would play against your message anyways.

[ccs46]

Now I wonder if the person who ordered the promotional videos charged them way more of what he paid?

Probably so, after all transitions and overlays are expensive to create

That someone can create in premiere and aftereffects in like what 10 minutes? 

[miguelvp]

Now I wonder if the person who ordered the promotional videos charged them way more of what he paid?

Probably so, after all transitions and overlays are expensive to create

That someone can create in premiere and aftereffects in like what 10 minutes? 

I know, it was a tongue in cheek comment. I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well in the interwebs.

[onlooker]

I would think most of those actors won't touch a negative campaign, just in case.

Then, (imagine to) hire them to praise Dave's Debunk video or EEVblog in general.

[5ky]

I would think most of those actors won't touch a negative campaign, just in case.

Then, (imagine to) hire them to praise Dave's Debunk video or EEVblog in general.

I'd pitch in for that 

[ccs46]

Now I wonder if the person who ordered the promotional videos charged them way more of what he paid?

Probably so, after all transitions and overlays are expensive to create

That someone can create in premiere and aftereffects in like what 10 minutes? 

I know, it was a tongue in cheek comment. I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well in the interwebs.

The amount of time batteriser has taken on this, they could have done all the work themselves

[amyk]

So, hypothetically, one can also hire them to testify,  on video for $5 each, about how much Betteriser devices suck.

It will be interesting to see both pro and con videos played at the same time.

I would think most of those actors won't touch a negative campaign, just in case. Also I don't think anyone would need them, because of the gimmicky aspect, it would play against your message anyways.

How about hiring them to promote EEVblog, or more specifically, the debunking of Batteriser? It wouldn't really be a "negative campaign" but more like "find the truth about battery-extension scammers"...

[SL4P]

Oh Dear...
I keep seeing Batteriser promotions and claims on the web - especially the 'reports' and 'certifications', but what is glaringly apparent is that none of them are relevant to the claimed capability of the Batteriser to deliver the extension of battery life.

• FCC - Not causing interference? - hmm ok.
• UL  - Not causing an insurable liability? - hmmm ok (with some reservation).
• BR  - Extending battery life through clever use of technology or physics? - no proof yet.