EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Neilm]

lets face it the yanks don't know the difference between "z" and "s" and use them interchangeably a lot of the time.

Could cause confusion if a military person wants a fuze for his multimeter.

[SeanB]

lets face it the yanks don't know the difference between "z" and "s" and use them interchangeably a lot of the time.

Could cause confusion if a military person wants a fuze for his multimeter.

Not in the military, they just return it to stores and get another one....... Repair depot works on a part number, they do not care what it is so long as the number is in the breakdown for the particular instrument.

[Neilm]

A fuze is the bit of a bomb that makes it go bang. A fuse is the cartridge bit that protects against overcurrent.

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Word about the trademark case has emerged on the Batteriser Facebook page in Visitor Posts.

[Muttley Snickers]

At least those people who were looking to receive the Batteriser have an equally useless product to fall back on should the need arise, it appears that these people did follow through and the Kickstarter page indicates that they did ship. Perhaps Zippo or Bic might be a better choice for those wanting to ignite something.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1097965489/lightors-the-worlds-first-monster-batteries?ref=category_popular

http://www.gadgetreview.com/lightors-usb-rechargeable-batteries-you-need-in-your-life



 

[rollatorwieltje]

At least those people who were looking to receive the Batteriser have an equally useless product to fall back on should the need arise, it appears that these people did follow through and the Kickstarter page indicates that they did ship. Perhaps Zippo or Bic might be a better choice for those wanting to ignite something.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1097965489/lightors-the-worlds-first-monster-batteries?ref=category_popular

http://www.gadgetreview.com/lightors-usb-rechargeable-batteries-you-need-in-your-life

Why would anybody kickstart this when similar products are already available... I've seen several AA batteries with built-in USB connector already, even at regular retail places. Even a AAA with a fold-out USB connector. Still pointless as you lose a stupid amount of capacity, but the concept isn't new at all.

This crowd-scamming needs to die fast... Good thing all these shit projects will help to achieve that, too bad some people will get ripped off in the process.

Another fun crowd-"funding" example:

[Muttley Snickers]

I've seen several AA batteries with built-in USB connector already, even at regular retail places. Even a AAA with a fold-out USB connector. Still pointless as you lose a stupid amount of capacity, but the concept isn't new at all.

This crowd-scamming needs to die fast... Good thing all these shit projects will help to achieve that, too bad some people will get ripped off in the process.

I agree and you are right in all aspects, I simply hadn't seen them before and there are quite a number of variations on the same theme.

http://www.usbcell.com/product/1

http://www.yankodesign.com/2011/01/17/usb-drive-has-another-electrifying-side/

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Hi,

I am surprised that Monster didn't go after Lightors for trademark:

https://www.monsterproducts.com/




Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Word about the trademark case has emerged on the Batteriser Facebook page in Visitor Posts.

I checked the Batteriser Facebook page today. These Visitor posts are gone. No supprise !!

Let us see if this one survives on the IGG campaign:



I am surprised as to how few comments there are on the IGG campaign. Are they deleting them ?

Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B

[Fungus]

I checked the Batteriser Facebook page today. These Visitor posts are gone. No supprise !!

Mine's still there...even got a few likes!

[drussell]

Still no real news...  They're still saying "within the next few weeks" as of this morning...

[EEVblog]

I am surprised as to how few comments there are on the IGG campaign. Are they deleting them ?

There is screen capture evidence on this forum that they have deleted IGG comments on multiple occasions.

[g.lewarne]

Still no real news...  They're still saying "within the next few weeks" as of this morning...

so, never then

Wont be long before they have to ban everyone from posting on their facebook and severely moderate indegogo comments.   Got my popcorn ready!

[SL4P]

Its a bit of a disappointment, that after all the BS, false claims and outright devious behaviour - that the Battteriser campaign should end up like this!

I'm sure we all expected an explosive teardown on technical merits rather than a small fart caused by 'the product name being confusing...'

Oh well. Batteroo got their money, the VCs got shafted, and the IGG backers get nothing.  The earth is still turning!

[Muttley Snickers]

Yes but technically I still got diddled.

My complaint about the chips is not that we are out by 23 grams it's that the manufacturer is and they should have it down pat by now, this is only one packet out of who knows how many, worth a call to be fair I think.

Anyway companies that make false claims in regards to promised values and in particular the lack of required chips need to be held accountable, maybe I'm not that far off topic after all.

For those following and eagerly awaiting the outcome of this exciting episode of Muttley got done again, I contacted the manufacturer and the permissible weight tolerance is one percent, they are sending out a Coles Supermarket Gift Card for compensation, I get nothing for the mental anguish although they did declare that I can now eat the chips.

 

[Brumby]

But, dear Muttley, there are a number of positives  from your experience:

The manufacturer

• knows they are being watched
• knows they will be held responsible for delivery of a product that falls short of declared parameters
• should be well aware that such situations may well get broad exposure across social media
• knows it would be in their best interest to make a fair and reasonable response in a timely manner

While you

• have got it off your chest
• made others aware of potential issues
• had your issue acknowledged by the manufacturer
• have an offer of some tangible compensation
• get to eat your chips - even though the packet wasn't 800% 100%

Yes, things can go wrong and when they do, it can be distressing - but the true measure of any manufacturer, merchant or any other party with whom you interact, is how they address a problem.

All things considered, it's probably a reasonable outcome, IMHO.

[Delta]

They are not chips, they are crisps!  😈

[Muttley Snickers]

They are not chips, they are crisps!  😈

So I should also go them on false product description.....

We call them chips and always have......

[Muttley Snickers]

But, dear Muttley, there are a number of positives  from your experience:

The manufacturer

• knows they are being watched
• knows they will be held responsible for delivery of a product that falls short of declared parameters
• should be well aware that such situations may well get broad exposure across social media
• knows it would be in their best interest to make a fair and reasonable response in a timely manner

While you

• have got it off your chest
• made others aware of potential issues
• had your issue acknowledged by the manufacturer
• have an offer of some tangible compensation
• get to eat your chips - even though the packet wasn't 800% 100%

Yes, things can go wrong and when they do, it can be distressing - but the true measure of any manufacturer, merchant or any other party with whom you interact, is how they address a problem.

All things considered, it's probably a reasonable outcome, IMHO.

Well put and brilliant advice......

Reminds me of something else but I cant remember exactly what it was right now, anyway unlike some other things it will come to me sooner or later.

[Galenbo]

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I am surprised as to how few comments there are on the IGG campaign. Are they deleting them ?

Maybe they even hired that guy with his software for bulk-deleting posts.

[timb]

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I am surprised as to how few comments there are on the IGG campaign. Are they deleting them ?

Maybe they even hired that guy with his software for bulk-deleting posts.

OH SNAP! Bitch just got served an ICE BURN son! Dammmmnnn...

[miguelvp]

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I am surprised as to how few comments there are on the IGG campaign. Are they deleting them ?

Maybe they even hired that guy with his software for bulk-deleting posts.

OH SNAP!

Might just take a fiverr (a.k.a. 5 USD dollars)

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Some more Facebook page goodness.

Notice:
1. The epic troll with the electric car post 
2. Batteriser have been called out for deleting posts

[Brumby]

Sorry Hibbo, but that just cracked me up. 

[quad]

Another one. I have a feeling they're going to do a Facebook "cleanse" any time now.