EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

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The edit history on this post is suspicious. Why would your average joe customer change the wording from 'real' to 'perfect' ?

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Clarification about longevity of the Batteroo

[FrankBuss]

Hmmm...

The packaging and sleeve are branded 'Batteriser'.

Looks like an invitation for a lawsuit - if it's fair dinkum.

Could be a fake account and they took a picture of the wrong name to say, "sorry, now big battery has confiscated all our shipments at customs" 

[firewalker]

The account seems to be legit. According to his profile he is the owner of an online shop with gagdets for bikes and mobile phones.

http://www.smartplusnew.com/en/

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Well I'll be darned...

A photo of packaging is a good start, but where is the product?  Could be an empty box 

You have to ask:

1) If you are going to all the trouble to post a photograph, why wouldn't you post a picture of the Batteriser?

2) Where is Bob's camera?

3) Where are the press kits?

If they started shipping  about three weeks ago. It is conceivable that this is two step process, ship in bulk to a mail process company, then the mail processor ship to the customer. This two-step process could take several weeks. Why weren't a few dozen sleeves put in a courier envelope and shipped quickly?

Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B

[Kalvin]

He is from Athens. I will try to contact him.
Alexander.

  This is getting interesting. Did he get paid for endorsing the packaging?

[Fungus]

A photo of packaging is a good start, but where is the product?  Could be an empty box 

You have to ask:

1) If you are going to all the trouble to post a photograph, why wouldn't you post a picture of the Batteriser?

Maybe he just picked it up at the post office and pulled it out of the envelope. That's why he's in his car.

(deeply skeptical, but not seeing any smoking gun in that photo apart from the name "batterizer")

[Blocco]

The declaration that "it's perfect!!!" seems like a very strange statement considering he doesn't appear to have removed the invisible Batterisers from the packaging and, therefore, can't know whether they work or even if they will fit the intended device. Once again, something just doesn't smell right.

[Kalvin]

Probably just a joke. it is strange that he is the only person reporting getting the shipment in EU. And the package doesn't have any markings about the manufacturer, website, etc. which are typically found in the packaging.

[Bud]

Greece was on Bob's preferred country's list to ship, i guess. It was very important that Greece gets it first.

[firewalker]

Maybe the user in question ordered a large number of the product in order to resale it via his own gadget shop, and Battero ships first to large customers?

Alexander.

[Sonny_Jim]

Good old Alex Malek is back at it again,  I would point out their conflict of interest but that got me banned from posting last time lol:

[Fungus]

The declaration that "it's perfect!!!" seems like a very strange statement considering he doesn't appear to have removed the invisible Batterisers from the packaging and, therefore, can't know whether they work or even if they will fit the intended device. Once again, something just doesn't smell right.

I'm going with "troll". It's a total fake by some Greek Joker.

Why else would he only show the back of the package and not the front with the plastic box and the batterizers inside it?

[BravoV]

Why else would he only show the back of the package and not the front with the plastic box and the batterizers inside it?

Cause printing at a piece of paper is much-much easier, rather than to doctor the photo with fake 3D rendering.

[Mr.B]

I'm with Fungus on this one.
The back of all packaging like this usually includes trademarks, web site, country of manufacture, etc.
The fake mock up includes none of this 'fine print'.

[Halcyon]

The declaration that "it's perfect!!!" seems like a very strange statement considering he doesn't appear to have removed the invisible Batterisers from the packaging and, therefore, can't know whether they work or even if they will fit the intended device. Once again, something just doesn't smell right.

That's the first thing that popped into my head. Why on earth say "It's perfect"? It looks like he has *just* picked it up from the post office (as he's in his car) and the package is not open yet, which only makes me assume that he hasn't even used it yet.

It's at the stage where unless one is in Dave's hot little hands, it's hard to trust anybody.

[rrinker]

 It would be awesome if Dave got his hands on one, but I'd accept anyoen here who posts a video of it. On another unrelated forum I'm on, there's a tradition of posing a can of beans in your photo to prove it's real (for a while it was a loaf of Wonder Bread). This being the EEVBlog, how about it gets a photo and/or video with either an EEVBlog item like the BM235 or uCurrent, or, if the lucky (?) recipient doesn't have any EEVBlog gear, have the computer display in frame with an EEVBlog video playing.
 That should be proof enough (yes, I know someone could Photoshop this all together, but really?) that you have in your grubby little hands an actual Batteroo product.

[PeterL]

I'm going with "troll". It's a total fake by some Greek Joker.

Well Bob believes it's real:



It's gonna be interesting to see how this ends..

[McBryce]

Although I'm highly sceptical that anything has been shipped...

An Engineer would only describe something as perfect when he/she has proven that it fullfils the technical claims, but non-engineers may describe things as perfect before they have tested the limits of the device (or even used it once).
I bought my daughter a laptop and she described it as perfect before she'd taken it out of the box! (And she graduates as an engineer next year)

Regarding the packaging: That may be the front of the packaging. Many products (Duracell PP3 for example) come in similar packaging where the product and fine print are behind the card. Like this: http://www.lifcobuy.de/media/image/thumbnail/19304_g_720x600.jpg (which only manages a measly 5x )

McBryce.

[firewalker]

"It's Perfect" as a sentece in Greek can be used to describe a situation or my mood. Not the product.

Alexander.

[samgab]

Here's the full res picture:

I think the packaging looks pretty good. That's not to say the product inside the glossy packaging will be. If people are really starting to receive them, I can't wait to see some real world product tests on youtube...
But why would you only post one single photo of the packaging without any other pictures showing the product itself? The good thing about digital cameras is you can take and upload lots of photos quickly! So why do only one?
Annoyingly, the image posted here has been stripped of EXIF data.

[firewalker]

Facebook strips exif data.

Alexander.

[Bud]

And by the way, where is the 800% thingie?   

[timb]

I thought they weren't allowed to ship anything with the Batteriser name on it? Wasn't one of their big excuses that they had to retool everything to say Batterpoo?

Edit: Also, that's clearly photochopped. I can tell by the pixels, you see.

[samgab]

I thought they weren't allowed to ship anything with the Batteriser name on it? Wasn't one of their big excuses that they had to retool everything to say Batterpoo?

Edit: Also, that's clearly photochopped. I can tell by the pixels, you see.

lol. You joke, but here's some photo forensics. It doesn't look photoshopped:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=59e2acf8299bcaad96fbfa01e460cbf3e005ebe7.71659&show=ela