Author Topic: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide (Read 1310692 times)

jlumme · « **Reply #1100 on:** November 02, 2012, 01:36:28 am »

Quote from: DigiGal on October 29, 2012, 09:10:05 pm

I'd like to see a condensed version, 74 pages is massive and I'm just now considering adding one of these to my bench.

Q: If I purchase new DS1052E from Rigol in USA will it still be possible to perform the 100MHz upgrade hack? No idea what version they are up to now for new units.

I just received my scope yesterday (ordered it from bestofferbuy.com), and the version was 2.06, with HW58.
I will be following Hellens instructions, to hack it this weekend, and post any progress..

merseyless · « **Reply #1101 on:** November 03, 2012, 03:18:53 am »

Just picked up a new rigol ds1052E with 3.01 firmware on it.
Is anyone working on or figured out how to downgrade it yet?

jlumme · « **Reply #1102 on:** November 03, 2012, 07:34:27 am »

Quote from: merseyless on November 03, 2012, 03:18:53 am

Just picked up a new rigol ds1052E with 3.01 firmware on it.
Is anyone working on or figured out how to downgrade it yet?

Only a couple pages back there was some guy who downgraded his 3.01

andys electronics · « **Reply #1103 on:** November 04, 2012, 01:32:44 am »

i to have just got a new ds1052e with 3.01 firmware, would like to back up firmware before trying mod anyone have step by step instructions to do that?

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jlumme · « **Reply #1104 on:** November 04, 2012, 09:06:35 am »

Successfully hacked my 2.06.01 FW Rigol today..

I had some problems the device first getting to read the data on the USB disk, but after writing couple screenshots there, it started to work

Nevertheless, all is well in the end.

Oh, and just for the record, I used these instructions for linux http://www.instructables.com/id/Hacking-the-Rigol-DS1052E-Oscilloscope-with-Linux/?ALLSTEPS
Though that guy was using 2.05 FW, and mine had 2.06 SP1, so with those changes in mind all worked well

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1105 on:** November 07, 2012, 03:43:32 pm »

Just received a ds1052e with 3.01 firmaware and HW version # 58.
I will be looking to Hack/upgrade this to 100Mhz as well. Is it going to be possible to downgrade the firmware???

DigiGal · « **Reply #1106 on:** November 07, 2012, 05:47:32 pm »

When Dave first posted his DS1052E review and the 100 MHz hack shortly after the cost of the DS1102E was quite a bit higher at $795 USD and today it's down to $399 USD. The price difference between the two models is roughly $60 USD now at the end of 2012 and was about $245 USD when the hack was posted.

So considering all the uncertainty of performing a successful hack on the units currently shipping and the minimal cost difference between models I decided to order a DS1102E. It was be delivered today, software version 00.03.01 hardware version 58

Gotta add the fan noise doesn't bother me at all, it's nowhere near intolerable.

Best of luck for those choosing to attempt hacking of newer models but for me the risk wasn't even worth considering at this point.

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1107 on:** November 08, 2012, 03:51:11 am »

Quote from: DigiGal on November 07, 2012, 05:47:32 pm

When Dave first posted his DS1052E review and the 100 MHz hack shortly after the cost of the DS1102E was quite a bit higher at $795 USD and today it's down to $399 USD. The price difference between the two models is roughly $60 USD now at the end of 2012 and was about $245 USD when the hack was posted.

So considering all the uncertainty of performing a successful hack on the units currently shipping and the minimal cost difference between models I decided to order a DS1102E. It was be delivered today, software version 00.03.01 hardware version 58 Gotta add the fan noise doesn't bother me at all, it's nowhere near intolerable.

Best of luck for those choosing to attempt hacking of newer models but for me the risk wasn't even worth considering at this point.

First I never discovered this forum till now lol. And second I needed something as cheep as possible. I stretched my budget just to get this for now. A year or 2 its not a big deal to spend a lot more then the $345 I paid Like a lot more. But Im starting my slowest time of year for work/making money and this is the time to finish a project I have been working on for 2 years and I am at the point I could not continue without a faster scope then the cheep 6 year old 2Mhz scope I used to have.

nitro2k01 · « **Reply #1108 on:** November 08, 2012, 04:15:45 am »

2 MHz?? Are you sure you don't mean 20? Where do you even find a 2 MHz scope, unless perhaps you buy a vintage one from 1950. Or perhaps the crappiest of crappy digital scopes. (I'm talking USB or pocket scopes here.)
My advice would be to shop for a used '90s analog scope on ebay. With a little luck and skill, you could almost certainly get a 50 MHz+ scope for under $150. Newer is not always better, as a certain Dave likes to point out.

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1109 on:** November 08, 2012, 04:17:08 pm »

Quote from: nitro2k01 on November 08, 2012, 04:15:45 am

2 MHz?? Are you sure you don't mean 20? Where do you even find a 2 MHz scope, unless perhaps you buy a vintage one from 1950. Or perhaps the crappiest of crappy digital scopes. (I'm talking USB or pocket scopes here.)
My advice would be to shop for a used '90s analog scope on ebay. With a little luck and skill, you could almost certainly get a 50 MHz+ scope for under $150. Newer is not always better, as a certain Dave likes to point out.

No 2Mhz its something I got to use for automotive testing on injector pulse widths and vr sensors etc.
I have the new ds1052e and it works so for now I will use it as a 50Mhz then in the future I will see if someone makes the 3.01 firmware easier to hack otherwise I will just do the hard ware mod because the 2ns vs 5ns timescale should not effect anything I have planed.

Ga9rri5son7 · « **Reply #1110 on:** November 14, 2012, 06:25:53 am »

thanks for the effort in sharing.

Arp · « **Reply #1111 on:** November 15, 2012, 07:27:20 pm »

I tried removing the "OutHI" caps seen on this photo ( http://www.dontshock.us/rigol/hacked/DS1052E-FrontEnd4_moddedRM.jpg ) on my new firmwared oscilloscope, but I don't really see much of a difference. Still 5ns/time maximum & it didn't do much to the BW Limit option neither. Maybe I'm doing this wrong?

Arlo1 · « **Reply #1112 on:** November 16, 2012, 04:13:27 pm »

Quote from: Arp on November 15, 2012, 07:27:20 pm

I tried removing the "OutHI" caps seen on this photo ( http://www.dontshock.us/rigol/hacked/DS1052E-FrontEnd4_moddedRM.jpg ) on my new firmwared oscilloscope, but I don't really see much of a difference. Still 5ns/time maximum & it didn't do much to the BW Limit option neither. Maybe I'm doing this wrong?

You have to change the software to get 2ns/time max! The scope wont know you took the "OutHI" caps out so it should perform better but you need a function generator to mesure this.

Arp · « **Reply #1113 on:** November 18, 2012, 04:06:41 pm »

As I suspected. I'll see if I can find something that generates frequencies higher than the 50 mhz crystal I have. But I removed both of them so I can't really compare. Does there exist any before & after pictures of this?

Goofy · « **Reply #1114 on:** November 19, 2012, 01:37:51 am »

Hello!

May I ask someone for posting a link to the 2.06 and/or 3.01 firmware version suitable for D type of the scope? Today I have successfully applied a discussed hack onto my DS1052D (with a logic analyzer). I want to finally apply the most recent firmware, but I have no luck searching for it.

Thanks to the authors of the hack!

blackknife · « **Reply #1115 on:** November 20, 2012, 06:08:35 pm »

Has anyone managed to unlock 100 mhz in the 03.01 FW without using the jtag?

robrenz · « **Reply #1116 on:** November 20, 2012, 06:21:43 pm »

Quote from: Arp on November 18, 2012, 04:06:41 pm

As I suspected. I'll see if I can find something that generates frequencies higher than the 50 mhz crystal I have. But I removed both of them so I can't really compare. Does there exist any before & after pictures of this?

A pulse generator like in this thread to measure risetime would help you.

psy0rz · « **Reply #1117 on:** November 24, 2012, 12:18:23 pm »

Here's a link to firmware version 00.04.00.00.01 for the DS1000D and E series: http://db.tt/tX3qsxYT

I got it after asking our dealer if there where any upgrades. Its pretty annoying that rigol doesnt put these updates on their site i think.

Also notice how the major version changed again, from 3 to 4 this time. I wonder what they changed. The included .doc file only mentions a few minor changes which dont jusitify changing the major number it think.

Note: I didnt try this update yet. Im still waiting to see if someone will figure out a easy and safe way to upgrade my DS1052D to a DS1151D.

The only reason to upgrade would be to fix a issue with the long memory: It only seems to work if you capture stuff in single shot mode? Why is that? If i just stop the scope manually, i cant zoom in on the signal nearly as much. Is this a bug or feature? The manual and helpfunctions aren't very clear about it either.

Edwin

KeBeNe · « **Reply #1118 on:** November 26, 2012, 03:03:14 pm »

Hello,

for the hack firmware versions 00.03. and 00.04. per usb visit -> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/261138#postform

regards René

blackknife · « **Reply #1119 on:** November 26, 2012, 08:29:37 pm »

Have you tried it? Just to be sure that it works...

anyway great news!

KeBeNe · « **Reply #1120 on:** November 26, 2012, 09:06:15 pm »

i have the code modified and works fine

Slasher006 · « **Reply #1121 on:** November 26, 2012, 09:54:57 pm »

I installed it. it works! Hack still on!

Abdu · « **Reply #1122 on:** November 27, 2012, 01:23:54 pm »

Quote from: Slasher006 on November 26, 2012, 09:54:57 pm

I installed it. it works! Hack still on!

hi everyone (this is my first post)

Did you upgrade DS1052e 3.01 to be a 100Mhz using usb?
could you tell us what you did?

regards

blackknife · « **Reply #1123 on:** November 27, 2012, 01:47:23 pm »

I tried the hack today and it worked. I used the files that renè linked in the previous post.

1)upgraded to 03.01 to 04.00
2)downgraded from 04.00 to 02.02 sp2 (they said the fw works 04.00 to 02.02 sp2 so i prefered to update to 04 before doing the downgrade)
3)Hacked with DemoIDN (same instructions of this tutorial)
4)upgraded back to 04.00 and it works!!

Slasher006 · « **Reply #1124 on:** November 27, 2012, 03:26:21 pm »

Quote from: Abdu on November 27, 2012, 01:23:54 pm

Quote from: Slasher006 on November 26, 2012, 09:54:57 pm
I installed it. it works! Hack still on!
hi everyone (this is my first post)

Did you upgrade DS1052e 3.01 to be a 100Mhz using usb?
could you tell us what you did?

regards

I hacked mine DS1052E a long time ago with the tutorial at page 1 and a post from AHelene. When i bought it it has v2.05

When a upgrade is aviable i wanna try it out. I also always have the fear that Rigol do something about hacked scopes with an upgrades. But nope, they dont/can't.


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