EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[5ky]

I'm REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY curious what the short circuit current of the batteriser will be, and am also curious what its behavior will be when it hits the current limit. 

[HighVoltage]

Now THAT is strange...just went to watch Dave's Maker Faire interviews video and the entire 46 minute Batteriser video came up as the ad!

That is interesting.
I am blocking all advertisement with "adblock pro"

[AmmoJammo]

I'm REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY curious what the short circuit current of the batteriser will be, and am also curious what its behavior will be when it hits the current limit. 

Thats probably where they got their 1.5 amp rating from 

[HighVoltage]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.
It seems they want to postpone their need to act and hope this "talk" will go away.

[AmmoJammo]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.
It seems they want to postpone their need to act and hope this "talk" will go away.

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Trying to scam as much money as they can maybe?
I mean, if its a functional, saleable device, they won't need the campaign to make more sales...

[EEVblog]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.

They clearly didn't get the money they were after. If they think they are going to get double after another 30 days, good luck with that, campaigns don't usually work like that.

It seems they want to postpone their need to act and hope this "talk" will go away.

I think it's the opposite actually. The longer the campaign stays active the more likely people are still going to comment on it.

[firewalker]

Clearly their campaign failed. I was expected the to be well above 500k. So they are seeking a "relance".

Alexander.

[pickle9000]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.
It seems they want to postpone their need to act and hope this "talk" will go away.

I'm thinking outside investor issues.

[Galenbo]

The boost-converter's efficiency is about 80% - 90%, which can be compensated by the fact that the boost converter can drain battery a bit more than the camera can.

What's the efficiency of 2 boost converters (1 inside, 2nd is batteroo) AFTER eachother? Let's not fall into the trap of just multiplying the % numbers.
And, more important, what's the consumption of those 2 boost converters when the device is OFF? It's not zero, because one of them isn't aware of being OFF.

[McBryce]

That is very surprising! Someone is paying big money for that, google do not put those there for free, they are payed and targeted ads. Perhaps even targeting my Batteriser videos directly (In Google Adwords you can target specific video or channels and associated keyworks)
I've seen the Batteriser Adsense ads for the website, but not the "fan" videos before.

Don't you get a cut of the advertising shown before your videos? So you are now profitting from the Batteriser?? You've become part of the scam!!   

McBryce.

[PeterL]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.
It seems they want to postpone their need to act and hope this "talk" will go away.

Apparently you can extent your campaign by sending IGG a request at least 3 days before the end of a campaign:
https://support.indiegogo.com/hc/en-us/articles/205154117-What-You-Can-Can-t-Edit-After-Your-Campaign-Is-Live
Which seems just like a smart thing to do for them, since the money is still pouring in.

Bob's last (6th) update is now a little strange though stating: "There's only 24 hours left". Again something that doesn't add up well.

[EEVblog]

Don't you get a cut of the advertising shown before your videos? So you are now profitting from the Batteriser??

Yes, I'll buy a muffin tomorrow with the profits.

[Fungus]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.

They clearly didn't get the money they were after. If they think they are going to get double after another 30 days, good luck with that, campaigns don't usually work like that.

So why did they set an initial target of $30,000? 

[AmmoJammo]

Don't you get a cut of the advertising shown before your videos? So you are now profitting from the Batteriser??

Yes, I'll buy a muffin tomorrow with the profits.

buy a batteriser

[McBryce]

Don't you get a cut of the advertising shown before your videos? So you are now profitting from the Batteriser??

Yes, I'll buy a muffin tomorrow with the profits.

That may be more than they ever profit from it!

McBryce.

[EEVblog]

So why did they set an initial target of $30,000? 

So they can advertise to their VC's and others that it was a massive success being "1000% over funded".
It's a common technique when you don't actually need the money and you are doing it for other reasons.

[edy]

Yesterday their INDIEGOGO page said 16 hours left.
Now it is another 30 days.

They clearly didn't get the money they were after. If they think they are going to get double after another 30 days, good luck with that, campaigns don't usually work like that.

So why did they set an initial target of $30,000? 

The low target is probably so it makes it look like they are so popular they are over-funded right away, also convincing potential crowd-funders that it is a sure thing since they are way over target... they will fund the campaign. But they also had a "flexible funding" on the $30k which means they could have raised only $10k and still able to keep the money. It is just for show.

They extended it another 30 days. This story only gets weirder. Their funding curve over the 30 days probably looks just like a battery voltage depletion curve, only flipped in its Y-axis.... Starts off fast, plateaus and then a final quick jump to the finish line.

However, in this case there is a Batteriser attached, so maybe they think it can extend their campaign another 8x! :-)

[CaptCrash]

So why did they set an initial target of $30,000? 

So they can advertise to their VC's and others that it was a massive success being "1000% over funded".
It's a common technique when you don't actually need the money and you are doing it for other reasons.

Don't you mean 80,000% over funded? It is batteriser after all, don't let math get in the way

[Delta]

I can see this ending with a "Due to misinformation maliciously spread by interested parties elsewhere online, our major external investors have decided to pull out of the project.  Unfortunately, this means we are unable to deliver the product."  Oh, and we spent all your crowdfunding money on stupid videos, fast cars, and fast women, so no refunds!

[McBryce]

fast cars, and fast women

Well at least they didn't waste it then.

McBryce.

[Delta]

fast cars, and fast women

Well at least they didn't waste it then.

McBryce.

© G. Best 😃

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Hi,

Is there a place where you can get a chart of dollars raised versus time?

Jay_Diddy_B

[Fungus]

fast cars, and fast women

Well at least they didn't waste it then.

No, no, no... the joke is "spent it on loose cars and fast women"

[Muttley Snickers]

I just checked and it is confirmed that they have extended for another 30 days, so that then means they can study this and other threads for a month longer, and it looks and sounds like they need to.

I would love to have a serious game of poker with this mob because the card up my sleeve would be the knowledge that they are probably bluffing or even worse a pack of c#£@ts.

[Fungus]

The low target is probably so it makes it look like they are so popular they are over-funded right away

...but even a drooling idiot can see that $30,000 is way too low, that there's something wrong there.