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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2023, 12:34:22 pm »
Rigol DHO800/900 series oscilloscopes firmware v00.01.00.00.19:

[Model Supported] All the DHO800/900 series oscilloscopes

[Latest Revision Date] 2023/07/24

[Updated Contents]

v00.01.00.00.19  2023/07/24

1. The first version is released


-Released the production version.


Download:
https://supportcn.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/files/ftp/Firmware/DHO800_DHO900(Software)UpdateV00.01.00.zip
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #101 on: August 04, 2023, 03:57:30 pm »
Thank you,hubert.
My DHO804 is DHO924 now.
Two extra drams are only for LA.It can be unpopulate if doesn't use the LA .
The bandwidth is increased successfully.it has 800ps rise time now.
And the memory depth is 50M now.
Hi Azusa,Could you share "DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL" of your device,It's firmware under /rigol .I have some problem while try to hacking DHO804 to 924 using Hubert's vendor.bin,after replacement it was successfully recognized as DHO924,bandwith increased.But there was Y axis drifting(±(5-10)mv) can not be eliminate by SelfCal.the hardware seems to be identical,the only difference was firmware version,mine is 00.01.00(2023/7/21) which diffeent from yours(00.01.14 2023/07/06),i want to downgrade to your version having a try,Thanks.
Dear nervdg, Have you already loaded the .GEL file into DHO804? and is it working properly?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #102 on: August 06, 2023, 01:17:32 am »
There was still Y axis drifting(±(5-10)mv) can not be eliminate by SelfCal 。
Mine is dho804.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #103 on: August 06, 2023, 11:57:44 am »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
I think the difference between the firmware versions released on July 14th and July 21st should be the difference in the Sparrow.APK. So I hope you can execute adb pull /data/app/com.rigol.scope-1/base.apk and send me the obtained apk to try to downgrade.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #104 on: August 09, 2023, 03:22:43 pm »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks the same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

« Last Edit: August 09, 2023, 04:34:24 pm by nervdg »
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #105 on: August 09, 2023, 04:16:19 pm »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks like same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

Executing /rigol/build_gel.sh can generate a backup of the current running version of firmware!

adb shell
cd /rigol
rm DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
sh build_gel.sh

after the execution is completed, file DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL is the firmware of the current running version.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2023, 04:23:40 pm by hanxh »
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #106 on: August 09, 2023, 04:29:26 pm »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks like same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

Executing /rigol/build_gel.sh can generate a backup of the current running version of firmware!

adb shell
cd /rigol
rm DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
sh build_gel.sh

after the execution is completed, file DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL is the firmware of the current running version.
I'm looking for version 00.01.14,Could you provide it?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #107 on: August 09, 2023, 05:18:16 pm »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks like same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

Executing /rigol/build_gel.sh can generate a backup of the current running version of firmware!

adb shell
cd /rigol
rm DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
sh build_gel.sh

after the execution is completed, file DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL is the firmware of the current running version.
I'm looking for version 00.01.14,Could you provide it?

I'm also looking for 00.01.14, my version is 00.01.00.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2023, 05:20:44 pm by hanxh »
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2023, 10:48:39 am »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks the same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jV3l5stbSi2PPZNs?e=9gu2wp

Here is the /rigol from my device,and could you share your early firmware?
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #109 on: August 12, 2023, 05:06:50 am »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jU-ppDFHwT9WcShf?e=A7y1v1

DHO800_DHO900_Update.GEL
Thanks.I though gel file under /rigol was firmware backup of current runinng version.but i was wrong ,it was complied at 04/15/2023 which looks like an early stage firmware ,the default bandwidth was 200mhz,and lots of options listed in the 'Options' field,looks the same as HDO series,but all function was incomplete or heavily bugged.It would be nine if you could pull /rigol by use adb pull -a /rigol which was exactraed files of current firmware, i want to compare FPGA bitfile and main scope program (sparrow.apk),Thanks again!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkhYvp-r_jl5jV3l5stbSi2PPZNs?e=9gu2wp

Here is the /rigol from my device,and could you share your early firmware?

thanks your upload. when i replace my rigol folder with your's dump folder. my scope can't receive any signal. Then I recopy the backup file to /rigol it works. But! I found my ch1 voltage shift problem is solved!~. I don't known why, but others three channels still have the shift problem.

Then i found replace the calibration file at /rigol/data/*.hex, the scope will not works. use original file, everything's works well and ch1 doesn't have any voltage shift problem. :-DD
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #110 on: August 12, 2023, 03:27:28 pm »
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aoiert5pDttAgyILOp7MzfYDLsqZ?e=2QTcRq
Here is one earliest version i have found which build on 04/15/2023.
The firmware  which you send to me was not current version 00.01.14 but 00.01.06 (06/08/2023)|O,in fact I think the current version scpoe program APK coule only be dump from android by adb pull /data/app/com.rigol.scope-1/base.apk,and the fpga bitfile could need to access the hardware(spi flash beside fpga chip) which i think it's impossible cuz you warranty will be void.Could I trouble you to dump the apk again? Thanks a lot!


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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #111 on: August 19, 2023, 08:50:11 am »
Hi,

The Rigol DHO800 and DHO900 datasheets are now available in English.

https://int.rigol.com/Images/DHO800_DataSheet_EN_tcm7-5746.pdf
https://int.rigol.com/Images/DHO900_DataSheet_EN_tcm7-5747.pdf

You can compare with the Siglent sds-1104XE.

https://www.siglent.fr/index.php?controller=attachment&id_attachment=22

The lowest price for a 4-channel dho-800 (dho-804) is 389 USD and the dho-900 (dho-914) is 589 USD.

The DHO-800 starts at 500µV/div and the DH0-900 at 200µV/div, but it seems to be a digital zoom for the most sensitive gauges and that the "true 12bit ADC" starts at 1mV/div.

The DHO-800 has a maximum memory depth of 25MPts (for 1 channel), 10MPts (for 2 channels) and only 1MPts (for 3 and 4 channels).
DHO-900 has 50MPts, 25MPts and 10MPts.

The LA is for the DHO-900 only, and its device is a PLA2216 (the same as for the MDO5000) at around 350-400 USD. 

Have a nice day !

F. from France.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2023, 09:56:24 am »
The lowest price for a 4-channel dho-800 (dho-804) is 389 USD and the dho-900 (dho-914) is 589 USD.
Thank you.
Did you find a price list (USD, EUR)?
How much are the 2-channel DHO800?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #113 on: August 19, 2023, 12:03:43 pm »
The lowest price for a 4-channel dho-800 (dho-804) is 389 USD and the dho-900 (dho-914) is 589 USD.

Where is that? In China?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #114 on: August 19, 2023, 12:06:39 pm »
The DHO-800 has a maximum memory depth of 25MPts (for 1 channel), 10MPts (for 2 channels) and only 1MPts (for 3 and 4 channels).
DHO-900 has 50MPts, 25MPts and 10MPts.

Hopefully that's hackable :-)

I'm not sure I'd want 200MHz bandwidth with 1.25 GSa/s sample rate but a 125MHz DHO800 with 50MPts of memory sounds like a very good thing.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2023, 12:08:10 pm »
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2023, 12:20:35 pm »
Prices are given in English at the end of these pages :
Thank you.
$329 is a bit more than the 1999 yuan originally mentioned (would be $275 at current exchange rate).
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-dho800900-pre-sales-begin/msg4869713/#msg4869713
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2023, 12:44:48 pm »
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$329 is a bit more than the 1999 yuan originally mentioned (would be $275 at current exchange rate).

This is still a super cheap price for what you'll probably(no real test yet and here) get.

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2023, 01:38:24 pm »
The DOH800 could be a nice secondary oscilloscope for a temporary workstation (can also be connected to the monitor, so the small 7" display would be tolerable). And it can also be operated with a battery for off-site measurements.
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« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2023, 01:40:01 pm »
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$329 is a bit more than the 1999 yuan originally mentioned (would be $275 at current exchange rate).
This is still a super cheap price for what you'll probably(no real test yet and here) get.

I assume so too.
But $299 for the cheapest model would not have been bad in terms of sales psychology.
The 100Mhz Hantek DSO2C10 is still half the price.
I know that you can't compare the two brands in terms of quality, but Rigol could challenge Hantek a bit more in the entry-level segment...  ;)
 

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« Reply #120 on: August 19, 2023, 01:41:32 pm »
Yeah - but the Rigol is more compact and hopefully hackable  >:D
but we will see, how the price will be in Europe.
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #121 on: August 19, 2023, 02:34:32 pm »
In my experience, the dollar prices are the same as the euro prices, plus VAT.
The $329 would then become approx. 391€ incl. 19% VAT.
If this remains the case and the DHO 814 is offered for just under 390€, the days of the DS1000Z would be numbered.

https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-DS1104Z-Plus.html
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« Reply #122 on: August 19, 2023, 02:45:11 pm »
If this remains the case and the DHO 814 is offered for just under 390€, the days of the DS1000Z would be numbered.
The DHO 814 costs $459 according to the list above.
Why do you think it will be available for under 390€?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #123 on: August 19, 2023, 02:52:01 pm »
Argh, my fault...Didn´t saw it is for the 2-ch/70Mhz version. |O
But even then it would be less than the DS1104Z(from a hacking view of point).
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« Reply #124 on: August 19, 2023, 07:53:41 pm »
If the DHO 814 is offered for under 390€, the days of the DS1000Z would be numbered.

Yep.

Also all the Siglents in that price range.
 


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