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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #150 on: August 23, 2023, 11:08:36 am »
Is that a VESA mount I see?  :o



Looks too big, and would cover the vents.

Might be OK if it's X shaped.
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #151 on: August 23, 2023, 01:10:31 pm »
Is that a VESA mount I see?  :o
Looks too big, and would cover the vents.

If you take distance rollers, this should no longer be a problem.
They were even included with my holders.

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #152 on: August 23, 2023, 02:12:40 pm »
Official launch date for Europe September the 8th 2023, shipments from end of September.
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2023, 07:48:45 am »
Can we use the DHO1000's rgtool decode the BW option on DHO900?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #154 on: August 28, 2023, 09:10:20 pm »
On Rigol Europe, there's now prices for the 800 and 900 series

https://www.rigol.eu/products/oscillosopes/112.html
DHO802 €299
DHO804 €399
DHO812 €399
DHO814 €499

https://www.rigol.eu/products/oscillosopes/113.html
DHO914 €599
DHO914S €699
DHO924 €699
DHO924S €799

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #156 on: August 28, 2023, 09:50:39 pm »
It's a pity that only the DHO9xxS can do Bode plot (as far as could tell from the user manuals of the 800, 900 and 1000 series).

I would expect that at least for the 1000 series Bode plot would be available, by synchronising the scope with an external generator, like the Siglent SDS1000X-E (and others) does with the SDG1000X (and others)

 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2023, 10:26:16 pm »
It's a pity that only the DHO9xxS can do Bode plot (as far as could tell from the user manuals of the 800, 900 and 1000 series).

I would expect that at least for the 1000 series Bode plot would be available, by synchronising the scope with an external generator, like the Siglent SDS1000X-E (and others) does with the SDG1000X (and others all SDG models.)
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #158 on: August 29, 2023, 08:33:33 pm »
It seems like DHO802 has all channels soldered (and the price is close to 804). If it's true, is it possible to upgrade it to DHO914 with the keygen? (I know: DHO802 has neither generator nor logic analyser port on board.)
I can't find any pictures of new scopes with two channels soldered only.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #159 on: August 29, 2023, 08:51:36 pm »
It seems like DHO802 has all channels soldered (and the price is close to 804). If it's true, is it possible to upgrade it to DHO914 with the keygen? (I know: DHO802 has neither generator nor logic analyser port on board.).

What would be the point?

I think you'll get a lot of useless junk on screen and in the menus. The bandwidth is a bit dodgey, too, the sample rate won't be high enough to support it with all channels on so you could be seeing a lot of aliasing.

(unless it drops the bandwidth when you turn on more than 2 chanels - which would be a cool thing for it to do ... does anybody know?)

If the 800 has the full 50Mpoints of memory on the PCB then that would be worth unlocking that but I don't know if it does and I'm not sure I'd want junk in the menus just to get it.

Time will tell.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #160 on: August 29, 2023, 09:00:32 pm »
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I can't find any pictures of new scopes with two channels soldered only.

I would not rely on this, the larger models with 2 channels actually have only 2 channels installed, why should it be different with the small ones?
(MSO5072 was an exception).

https://rigolshop.eu/dho1072.html

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Time will tell.

Exactly, let´s see what happen at the rigol shop next week.


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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #161 on: August 29, 2023, 09:30:49 pm »
It seems like DHO802 has all channels soldered...

The DHO802 only has 2 inputs, as seen here:

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PF411Q7rg/
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #162 on: August 30, 2023, 02:13:18 am »
Is there a chance to use LA on DHO804? Its differential pairs and control lines are directly connected to the chip... Is anything left unpopulated except for main LA connector?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #163 on: August 30, 2023, 02:15:29 am »
I would not rely on this, the larger models with 2 channels actually have only 2 channels installed, why should it be different with the small ones?
(MSO5072 was an exception).

The MSO5072 had a paid upgrade option to unlock the other 2 channels. They have 4 connectors on the front, two of them have special BNC caps on them:

 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #164 on: August 30, 2023, 07:16:15 am »
Yes, this is the exception.. ;)

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #165 on: August 30, 2023, 08:42:02 am »
Is there a chance to use LA on DHO804? Its differential pairs and control lines are directly connected to the chip... Is anything left unpopulated except for main LA connector?
I'll write the answer for myself :)
RAM for the LA is not soldered, but it's possible to trick the scope to identify as DHO914.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #166 on: September 01, 2023, 03:06:33 am »
Just did the unboxing video, OMG this thing is so cute!
Unless it's absolutely riddled with bugs, no one will be buying any other entry level scope, Rigol will own the market.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #168 on: September 01, 2023, 06:13:49 am »
You sounded as excited as a kid at Christmas!
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #169 on: September 01, 2023, 08:15:38 am »
Unboxing video is now on my website:

Thanks! Looks great!
But almost 1 minute time to start up could be a bit annoying.
Is this a first time thing or does it always take this long?
Is there a standby mode?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #170 on: September 01, 2023, 08:42:44 am »
Size comparison:

 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #171 on: September 01, 2023, 08:44:32 am »
But almost 1 minute time to start up could be a bit annoying.
Is this a first time thing or does it always take this long?
Is there a standby mode?

46sec. No standby, you get that every time.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #172 on: September 01, 2023, 09:05:49 am »
46sec. No standby, you get that every time.

The splash screen may be visible for that long, but the power button turns green at 12:25 and the splash screen disappears at 13:19.
That's 54 seconds.
I can already see myself stomping my feet while staring at the Rigol logo  :palm:
Probably I will stay for the not so important measurements (95%) with my Zeeweii, which is ready in 4 seconds.  :-DD
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #174 on: September 01, 2023, 12:18:33 pm »
46sec. No standby, you get that every time.


That's 54 seconds.
I can already see myself stomping my feet while staring at the Rigol logo  :palm:

And I can see you occupying at least half that time attaching the correct probing solution to the DUT.

A manufacturer launches a 12-bit, 4-channel, portable, ground isolated oscilloscope for pocket money (did I mention it's 12-bit?) and we're nit picking it on it taking 45 seconds longer to be ready (only for quick 'n dirty measurements, mind) than an 80's Tektronix??  ;)

I must have missed a memo.

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