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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #950 on: September 21, 2023, 03:35:16 am »
I tried the new image and it works as intended, Thanks a lot! :-+
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #951 on: September 21, 2023, 05:18:37 am »
A little disappointing - you'd think that with Android the keyboard support would come more or less for free.
Even so that wouldn't be a deal killer for me.

Confirmed, keyboard is detected and a few keys are accepted, but you can't enter numbers into entry boxes for example. Basically it's not implemented.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #952 on: September 21, 2023, 05:55:53 am »
Thanks a lot, I will try it later, no worries whatsoever! :-+

Very much looking forward to the final result
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #953 on: September 21, 2023, 08:10:35 am »
A little disappointing - you'd think that with Android the keyboard support would come more or less for free.
Even so that wouldn't be a deal killer for me.

Confirmed, keyboard is detected and a few keys are accepted, but you can't enter numbers into entry boxes for example. Basically it's not implemented.

Probably the UI toolkit they used.

I agree that "vertical" isn't the ideal angle for typing on touch screens. I use a stylus when I work with my touch laptop.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #954 on: September 21, 2023, 09:09:22 am »
then we need to put in a request for rigol to improve the keyboard support in their android app... and check it's not any better on the higher models (hdo1000 & hdo4000 series)
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #955 on: September 21, 2023, 11:59:33 am »
then we need to put in a request for rigol to improve the keyboard support in their android app... and check it's not any better on the higher models (hdo1000 & hdo4000 series)

I'll bet a million Ohms that it's exactly the same.
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #956 on: September 21, 2023, 12:02:19 pm »
well there must be someone on this forum who has such an oscilloscope ....
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #957 on: September 21, 2023, 12:04:46 pm »
1 million waveforms per second = Keysight DSOX3024A

but how about: 1Mhz
Because my current scope is only 40khz effective bandwidth

 :-DD
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #958 on: September 21, 2023, 08:33:06 pm »
Well, success!

Thanks to @hubertyoung's fw 1.14 image I was able to convert my DHO804 to DHO924 with no vertical offset issue. There was a vertical offset issue for some of the channels when I replace the vendor file but this time I performed the extended cal and the offset issue went away. None of the channels have any offset issues for all the voltage ranges.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #959 on: September 21, 2023, 10:30:50 pm »
Having this on screen would really annoy me:


 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #960 on: September 21, 2023, 11:46:09 pm »
Well, success!

Thanks to @hubertyoung's fw 1.14 image I was able to convert my DHO804 to DHO924 with no vertical offset issue. There was a vertical offset issue for some of the channels when I replace the vendor file but this time I performed the extended cal and the offset issue went away. None of the channels have any offset issues for all the voltage ranges.

Did you got a new SD card to write the new image or you wrote over the existing one ?
What SW version was before as mine seems to be 1.0
Are there any other advantages to use the DHO924 firmware other than the increase bandwidth? (likely requiring different probes to take advantage off).
Not sure if there is extra sampling memory or just allows more in 4 channel mode.
Did you notice the strong plastic smell. I left mine outside since yesterday I need to check if there is any improvement.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #961 on: September 22, 2023, 12:26:17 am »
Well, success!
Thanks to @hubertyoung's fw 1.14 image I was able to convert my DHO804 to DHO924 with no vertical offset issue. There was a vertical offset issue for some of the channels when I replace the vendor file but this time I performed the extended cal and the offset issue went away. None of the channels have any offset issues for all the voltage ranges.

Can someone link to the image file please? Thanks.
Is it really just as easy as overwriting the SD card with a DHO900 image and then running the 10min calibration?
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #962 on: September 22, 2023, 01:30:40 am »
Here is the DHO804 FW1.14 image (Thanks to @hubertyoung) with the DHO924 vendor file preloaded. Extract using 7zip then flash using HDD Raw Copy Tool (compressed image). If there is an vertical offset then use self cal or extended self cal.

https://mega.nz/file/UjBC3KRY#Kqv1BCHNQdPcUGMfR8IqbuUwHUsUhU4GpO1keTAXqf8
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #963 on: September 22, 2023, 06:48:48 am »
Here is the DHO804 FW1.14 image (Thanks to @hubertyoung) with the DHO924 vendor file preloaded. Extract using 7zip then flash using HDD Raw Copy Tool (compressed image). If there is an vertical offset then use self cal or extended self cal.

https://mega.nz/file/UjBC3KRY#Kqv1BCHNQdPcUGMfR8IqbuUwHUsUhU4GpO1keTAXqf8

Hi,

  • This is what I've done:
    1. Run the Win32 Disk Imager
    2. Backup the SD
    3. Flash the SD with the image from the link
    4. Run the claibartation (offset gone) - device identifies as DHO804
    5. Connect the scope to ethernet
    6  Run adb:
        6.1 adb devices
        6.2 adb connect 192.xxx.x.xxx:55555
        6.3 "adb pull /rigol/data/vendor.bin"
        6.4 backup the generated vendor bin file from the adb folder to a new location
        6.5 copy in the adb folder the  DHO924 vendor.bin file
        6.6 "adb push vendor.bin /rigol/data"
« Last Edit: September 23, 2023, 02:33:36 pm by Luc7777 »
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #964 on: September 22, 2023, 07:00:51 am »
I still wonder if it's possible to do it without disassemble.
I'm gonna to keep the warranty.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #965 on: September 22, 2023, 07:25:53 am »
Here is the DHO804 FW1.14 image (Thanks to @hubertyoung) with the DHO924 vendor file preloaded. Extract using 7zip then flash using HDD Raw Copy Tool (compressed image). If there is an vertical offset then use self cal or extended self cal.

https://mega.nz/file/UjBC3KRY#Kqv1BCHNQdPcUGMfR8IqbuUwHUsUhU4GpO1keTAXqf8

My SHA512 of the above file "Rigol_DHO804_FW1_14_Image.7z"

Code: [Select]
af34ca4120cb59ef7be0b42d783191656f0a1f3cb18de36bb02c0a5c7b98cd7a991892064dd1df46ab97e5ee754344aba16927813836c826a8fbe37a14883aeb
and SHA512 of the above "vendor_dho924.zip"

Code: [Select]
ea9a4bc034524452e8c205b26efc9c7e814a669e551f9b5279d85c373592dba253a67ba3718a2eeadaae3ef90381d2610cb6c41ff27fe0b71fb5c74211fe68e3
Is that OK?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2023, 07:29:17 am by iMo »
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #966 on: September 22, 2023, 08:34:02 am »
I still wonder if it's possible to do it without disassemble.
I'm gonna to keep the warranty.

Cracking vulnerable stickers is much easier than using software. You guessed it right. This 924 bin file was the first batch I purchased. I posted the disassembly pictures at the beginning of the forum. I disassembled it losslessly through technical means. Unfortunately, I did not directly back up the 924 image file. Finally, I backed up the bin through the adb command. I chose to return it. I hope rigol doesn't see this comment.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #967 on: September 22, 2023, 08:35:59 am »
Here is the DHO804 FW1.14 image (Thanks to @hubertyoung) with the DHO924 vendor file preloaded. Extract using 7zip then flash using HDD Raw Copy Tool (compressed image). If there is an vertical offset then use self cal or extended self cal.

https://mega.nz/file/UjBC3KRY#Kqv1BCHNQdPcUGMfR8IqbuUwHUsUhU4GpO1keTAXqf8

My SHA512 of the above file "Rigol_DHO804_FW1_14_Image.7z"

Code: [Select]
af34ca4120cb59ef7be0b42d783191656f0a1f3cb18de36bb02c0a5c7b98cd7a991892064dd1df46ab97e5ee754344aba16927813836c826a8fbe37a14883aeb
and SHA512 of the above "vendor_dho924.zip"

Code: [Select]
ea9a4bc034524452e8c205b26efc9c7e814a669e551f9b5279d85c373592dba253a67ba3718a2eeadaae3ef90381d2610cb6c41ff27fe0b71fb5c74211fe68e3
Is that OK?

Thank you very much for improving the download content, which is very friendly to newcomers.
 
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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #968 on: September 22, 2023, 08:41:19 am »
Well, success!
Thanks to @hubertyoung's fw 1.14 image I was able to convert my DHO804 to DHO924 with no vertical offset issue. There was a vertical offset issue for some of the channels when I replace the vendor file but this time I performed the extended cal and the offset issue went away. None of the channels have any offset issues for all the voltage ranges.

Can someone link to the image file please? Thanks.
Is it really just as easy as overwriting the SD card with a DHO900 image and then running the 10min calibration?

I'm curious, if I directly use someone else's 924s image to directly overwrite the SD card, it should be cracked. It's just that I don't have a 924s oscilloscope. If anyone has it, please share it (the SN will be exposed).
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #969 on: September 22, 2023, 10:00:22 am »
Was shooting the review video and this happened, WTF!
EDIT:  It's NOT the DHO800 at fault! Follow-up video shot on the 2nd channel.



 
David! Possibly on the first channel there is poor soldering of the printed circuit board with the BNC  connector
« Last Edit: September 22, 2023, 10:02:37 am by svetlov »
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #970 on: September 22, 2023, 10:57:07 am »
Was shooting the review video and this happened, WTF!
EDIT:  It's NOT the DHO800 at fault! Follow-up video shot on the 2nd channel.



 
David! Possibly on the first channel there is poor soldering of the printed circuit board with the BNC  connector

Watch the follow-up video:
https://youtu.be/f58qoyCETAE?si=G-vc9BEDjrHDQfwD
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #971 on: September 22, 2023, 11:04:19 am »

David! Possibly on the first channel there is poor soldering of the printed circuit board with the BNC  connector

I've seen very flaky stuff like that before. I'd bet the BNC connectors or the cable crimping. You can't see the quality of work inside the adapters or the crimps. I've had to throw out junk and replace with new. I've found many cheap adapters that aren't made to exacting specs (I know shocking) and have very weird connection problems.
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #972 on: September 22, 2023, 12:14:12 pm »
Having this on screen would really annoy me:



You should get used to this. I think all software currently has been cracked. As for parameter comparison, which requires help from others, volunteers will then need to compare the 924s to complete the hardware IC and restore it to the real 924s.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #973 on: September 22, 2023, 01:11:19 pm »
You should get used to this. I think all software currently has been cracked. As for parameter comparison, which requires help from others, volunteers will then need to compare the 924s to complete the hardware IC and restore it to the real 924s.

I'm very sure it's possible to hack just the bandwidth without those extra features.

Right now what they're doing is copying the entire 924 firmware so they get those artifacts.
 

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Re: Rigol's New DHO800 Oscilloscope unbox & teardown
« Reply #974 on: September 22, 2023, 01:13:04 pm »
We need a copy of as many  different vendor.bin files as possible to compare them and see how individual features are enabled.
 


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