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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3175 on: November 13, 2015, 09:18:57 pm »
"November" is running out, and we still haven't heard a peep out of Batteriser....  :scared:
You forgot to say what year ?   Maybe November 2025 ?
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3176 on: November 14, 2015, 02:35:18 am »
"November" is running out, and we still haven't heard a peep out of Batteriser....  :scared:

It's blindingly obvious they will not ship in November.
Them not updating anything for 3 weeks is not them extremely busy in preparation to ship, it means they can't do it.
The last update about waiting for a new silicon is evidence of that.
They aren't dumb, if they can't ship in Nov as promised, they aren't going to tell anyone until after November.
I expect no update until Dec.
But hey, maybe they'll prove us all wrong?
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3177 on: November 14, 2015, 04:59:31 am »
You forgot to say what year ?   Maybe November 2025 ?

November never?  |O
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3178 on: November 15, 2015, 11:18:41 am »
"November" is running out, and we still haven't heard a peep out of Batteriser....  :scared:
Happens all the time, broken deadlines and delays. Even with products that potentially work.
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3179 on: November 15, 2015, 01:09:43 pm »
"November" is running out, and we still haven't heard a peep out of Batteriser....  :scared:
You forgot to say what year ?   Maybe November 2025 ?


The year 2525 maybe??
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3180 on: November 15, 2015, 01:50:23 pm »
"If man is still alive..." (Sorry, couldn't refuse; showing my age, that song line immediately came to mind!)
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3181 on: November 15, 2015, 01:55:06 pm »
"If man is still alive..." (Sorry, couldn't refuse; showing my age, that song line immediately came to mind!)
That song is older then me and for me it came to mind as well ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3182 on: November 15, 2015, 02:28:43 pm »
"If man is still alive..." (Sorry, couldn't refuse; showing my age, that song line immediately came to mind!)
That song is older then me and for me it came to mind as well ;)

Great minds often follow the same path....
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3183 on: November 15, 2015, 04:11:16 pm »
Great minds often follow the same path....
Great minds think alike
Fools seldom differ  8)
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3184 on: November 16, 2015, 07:27:26 pm »
I always wonder, ether the Battaro folks or the youtube free energy people, or HHO people,  Do they really their own bullshit? Speaking of the latter two, I know there are people that really believe in it, but the guy selling DVDs and supplies what not. Is it a cynical ploy to defraud?

Do I want it to be a cynical ploy to defraud because that is an easy explanation?
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3185 on: November 17, 2015, 12:10:45 am »
It gives people something positive to believe in. You can find many kinds of blind faith in the world.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3186 on: November 21, 2015, 06:46:54 am »
Bob's admitted that it's "a bit behind schedule" on a comment on the Indiegogo campaign.

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Although we are a bit behind schedule, We certainly don't expect a substantial delay like that! I'm sorry your first crowdfunding experience was not a positive one.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3187 on: November 21, 2015, 07:00:57 am »
I'm surprised this one hasn't been deleted yet:

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3188 on: November 21, 2015, 07:12:09 am »
Bob's admitted that it's "a bit behind schedule" on a comment on the Indiegogo campaign.
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Although we are a bit behind schedule, We certainly don't expect a substantial delay like that! I'm sorry your first crowdfunding experience was not a positive one.

That was in response to someone mentioning a project that was 2 years late, so perhaps "a delay like that" can be a year  ;D
But I'm being cynical, I expect they'll only be a few months late.

The million dollar question is what is their game plan once they ship?
They know full well the product isn't going to deliver as promised, and that countless people are going to test it up the wazoo and make videos and blog and forum posts etc. They'll test it with the exact GPS, with Probes The Monkey, and with countless products someone will collate into a spreadsheet. They'll publish full efficiency performance curves, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone etches away the die and figures out what it is.
It will be a marketing disaster, and if they haven't gotten a huge Walmart or some other deal by then, then the products name will likely be mud.
Their plan up until this point has been "no one has tested it, so all these bloggers are full of crap, trust us". But once all and sundry has tested it and the real data is in, what's left?
They never even shipped those promised "media test kits".
Of course the cynical answer will be they will never ship until they have the consumer deal they want, or the company gets bought, or whatever their ultimate play is, but I think they will grudgingly ship before that.
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3189 on: November 21, 2015, 09:47:06 am »
Yup. November was just never going to happen. Anyone with any industry acumen figured that one out quickly after looking at the scope of what Batteroo has on its plate.

I, too, believe they will ship, just late. Although they really must be stinging from the C and D models. Those, while technically easier, are a huge distraction with no money but all the work.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3190 on: November 21, 2015, 10:02:00 am »


Alexander.
Become a realist, stay a dreamer.

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3191 on: November 21, 2015, 10:52:45 am »
Batteriser extends the delivery time by 800%!
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3192 on: November 21, 2015, 12:01:46 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a "Hello Kitty" upgrade option for current backers to get another month or two.  >:D The Batteriser project will implode soon. :popcorn:
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3193 on: November 21, 2015, 01:33:00 pm »
I'm pretty shocked that no Chinese knockoffs of this have appeared on ebay or Alibaba yet
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3194 on: November 21, 2015, 01:44:22 pm »


Alexander.

Finalising plans with your logistics provider means diddly squat. That might mean they're found their local post office on Google, or it might mean that they have found a drop shipper or fulfilment agent, but have not come to any agreement yet. Either way it's pretty meaningless.

What it doesn't tell you is when they will have any product to ship. It is not hard to be able to predict that, typically you'll have organised a contract assembler who'll have a number of weeks' lead time, and for the volume they're discussing it would be six to twelve weeks. Is there any evidence that they've even started manufacturing or have a production schedule signed?
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3195 on: November 21, 2015, 01:45:36 pm »
I'm pretty shocked that no Chinese knockoffs of this have appeared on ebay or Alibaba yet

Don't worry to much about that, they will be there
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3196 on: November 21, 2015, 02:30:29 pm »
I'm pretty shocked that no Chinese knockoffs of this have appeared on ebay or Alibaba yet

Don't worry to much about that, they will be there

Which one will deliver first? Batteriser or the Chinese knockoffs?
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3197 on: November 21, 2015, 02:32:10 pm »
I'm pretty shocked that no Chinese knockoffs of this have appeared on ebay or Alibaba yet

You can't copy something not existing yet  :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3198 on: November 21, 2015, 02:39:01 pm »
I'm pretty shocked that no Chinese knockoffs of this have appeared on ebay or Alibaba yet

You can't copy something not existing yet  :-DD

Pretty sure there is enough information out there for someone to at least come up with their own version of it.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #3199 on: November 21, 2015, 02:46:21 pm »
Pretty sure there is enough information out there for someone to at least come up with their own version of it.

Some forum members did exactly this already. The point is that the concept is broken. Or would you copy a non working circuit for profit? I forgot, audiophoolery is working   :palm:
 


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