EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Muttley Snickers]

I wish that they would hurry up and release something, even a video of the working but not quite right half amp version would have kept some people satisfied and confirmed that they were on the job.

Anyway can't wait for the exploded view pictures to arrive.....chips or popcorn, I can't decide.....

[EEVblog]

My torches work down to under 0.8V. No need for Batteriser.

Of course, mine do too (I actually tested one of them on the bench PSU back when we were all doing that kinda stuff in this thread (how long ago was that again?)).
[/quote]

OMG you can't use a PSU to test low battery voltage! The Batteroo experts say so!

[GoneTomorrow]

OMG you can't use a PSU to test low battery voltage! The Batteroo experts say so!

Remember, it's wrong and misleading at best. Batteries are not power supplies!

[McBryce]

Anyway can't wait for the exploded view pictures to arrive.....chips or popcorn, I can't decide.....

You can create your own "exploded view" when you attach it to something that pulls more than 1.3A

McBryce.

[rrinker]

 No worries on the sleeve getting stuck - they have those convenient holes drilled in there so you can attach pull cords to pull out the battery and sleeve after even their amazing device can no longer extract energy from the battery. 

 "Half a bee's dick" (yes, I've heard Dave say it in his videos many times as well) - so much more, umm, 'polite' than the typical expression used in the US to represent the same thing.

[timb]

No worries on the sleeve getting stuck - they have those convenient holes drilled in there so you can attach pull cords to pull out the battery and sleeve after even their amazing device can no longer extract energy from the battery. 

 "Half a bee's dick" (yes, I've heard Dave say it in his videos many times as well) - so much more, umm, 'polite' than the typical expression used in the US to represent the same thing.

There's a US version of the saying?

Edit: Hmmm...Ohhhhh! It just dawned on me.

[rrinker]

 The most common US version references a hair from a certain part of the female anatomy - I guess that's what I get for associating with truck drivers and mechanics. But hey, if this computer thing falls through, I know how to run construction equipment and work on big diesel engines. (joke - not about to make a major switch at nearly 50, the computer thing has worked out pretty well over the years)

[timb]

The most common US version references a hair from a certain part of the female anatomy - I guess that's what I get for associating with truck drivers and mechanics. But hey, if this computer thing falls through, I know how to run construction equipment and work on big diesel engines. (joke - not about to make a major switch at nearly 50, the computer thing has worked out pretty well over the years)

 I cun't harely believe that didn't occur to me sooner.

[rrinker]

 As Dave likes to say, winner winner, chicken dinner!

[mikerj]

  "Half a bee's dick" (yes, I've heard Dave say it in his videos many times as well) - so much more, umm, 'polite' than the typical expression used in the US to represent the same thing.

In the UK it's often referred to as a "Gnat's cock", which I believe is the S.I. unit.  We don't use the old imperial Bee dicks any more.

[free_electron]

Anyway can't wait for the exploded view pictures to arrive.....chips or popcorn, I can't decide.....

You can create your own "exploded view" when you attach it to something that pulls more than 1.3A

McBryce.

Batterizer -> Batteroaster

[Bob F.]

... and they all mostly have about half a bee's dick of slop ...

Now I don't feel well...

[Godzil]

Anyway can't wait for the exploded view pictures to arrive.....chips or popcorn, I can't decide.....

You can create your own "exploded view" when you attach it to something that pulls more than 1.3A

McBryce.

Batterizer -> Batteroaster

To roast a chicken with only one AAA battery? That's would be really interesting!

[firewalker]

I just noticed that the new video says to insert the Batteriser when the device battery is low on juice. Why not from the beginning with fresh batteries?

Alexander.

[drussell]

I just noticed that the new video says to insert the Batteriser when the device battery is low on juice. Why not from the beginning with fresh batteries?

They've gone back and forth several times on the recommendation for that one....

If you don't insert them until the cells are depleated you lose the placebo effect of some people thinking it really does extend battery life by forgetting how long the cells have been in the device and people will quickly notice that they only get a small increase in useful life from those dead cells when they slap them into a Batteriser.

On the other hand, if you insert fresh cells into a Batteriser then your device will operate at full speed / full brightness / whatever (which is sometimes a part of Batteroo's claims; that it makes your device work BETTER by giving it a constant 1.5v per cell along with their "it's safer with a Batteriser" BS, etc.) at the expense of shorter battery life than without the Batteriser.

That's a dilly of a pickle... 

[ccs46]

Give it a break, you keep harping on and on about this.
You are wrong.
Many people and journalists come to this thread to learn about what's happening and to get some engineering fact and professional comment. We don't want it to turn into conspiracy theory central.

Agree on some parts, the only thing I do not like is "you are wrong"
I would like to learn WHY "I am wrong", and what data you use to come to that conclusion.

Please give some info about your high-respected "journalists" that saw "the product".
You did not see "the product" yourself.
Those "journalists" you run after for some conspiracy reason, are the same kind of guys ar Roohpavar.
Good at the drawing table, not understanding the difference between charge and voltage.

The product exists, but it's wheat her  it does what they say, and if they are really going to ship.


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[McBryce]

I cun't harely believe that didn't occur to me sooner.

Your "mis-spelling" was probably too sublte for most to have got the joke But I laughed my ass off. 

McBryce.

[lincoln]

Assuming customers were to ever receive their Batteroosers, I can see many of them getting stuck inside the devices with tubular battery holders (such as the Apple keyboard). I have a few devices with such holders (mainly torches) and they all mostly have about half a bee's dick of slop between battery and casing. Simply wrapping a single layer of 80gsm paper around makes the battery an interference fit.

The shape of the spine of the Batterooser also looks to be non-cylindrical, so there's got to be at least a millimeter there. I'm pretty sure that it would require some force to get into my torches, and then be impossible to remove.

Right? The Apple keyboard is so small that with the right battery (specifically Duracell procells) they barely come out due to a near gas tight seal....

A shame I don't have any any more but I thing the keyboard runs down to below 1v per cell. It has been a while so i don't remember. I had a whole fleet of thees things and the batteries were toast after the kb started to report an issue. mmmhhh.....

[EEVblog]

A shame I don't have any any more but I thing the keyboard runs down to below 1v per cell. It has been a while so i don't remember.

I think someone busted the Apple keyboard on here too, IIRC it did go down to 1V or less.

[MLXXXp]

Assuming customers were to ever receive their Batteroosers, I can see many of them getting stuck inside the devices with tubular battery holders (such as the Apple keyboard).

Stay tuned for my up coming Indiegogo campaign for... The BATTERiserY (patent pending):
Alkaline batteries that have a slightly smaller diameter than standard, so you can insert them into a Batteriser sleeve and be able to fit them in to tight holders! 

[g.lewarne]

Assuming customers were to ever receive their Batteroosers, I can see many of them getting stuck inside the devices with tubular battery holders (such as the Apple keyboard).

Stay tuned for my up coming Indiegogo campaign for... The BATTERiserY (patent pending):
Alkaline batteries that have a slightly smaller diameter than standard, so you can insert them into a Batteriser sleeve and be able to fit them in to tight holders! 

800% smaller?

[rrinker]

 Negative space-time? Wait - that might provide infinite energy, in which case no Batteriser needed, ever!
Forget buying lottery tickets, I'm dumping it all in this campaign!

[timb]

A shame I don't have any any more but I thing the keyboard runs down to below 1v per cell. It has been a while so i don't remember.

I think someone busted the Apple keyboard on here too, IIRC it did go down to 1V or less.

There's two versions of the Apple Bluetooth Keyboard. When it was first released it took 3 AA batteries; IIRC within 6 months to a year they quietly released a new version that only needed 2 batteries. Nothing else changed externally. I think they bumped the part number up by a single digit.

Anyway, the older version of the keyboard may not work at as low of a voltage? I've got one here and can test it if anyone is interested.

[rich]

Negative space-time? Wait - that might provide infinite energy, in which case no Batteriser needed, ever!

Do you work for Steorn by any chance?    I believe that is pretty much the explanation they use to the media

[EEVblog]

Do you work for Steorn by any chance?    I believe that is pretty much the explanation they use to the media

Steorn are buying Batteriser! It'll take 800% longer to release a working product now!