EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[ez24]

If Batteroo attempts to sell to the DOD with the grandiose claims they are making now, they are toast.  Complete and utter toast.  I've said it five times, and I'll say it again, Qui Tam.  It is known as the "Lincoln Law" and allows private parties to sue companies who defraud the US Government on behalf of the US Government.  If the Government thinks the plaintiff has a great case, they will take it on themselves and give the plaintiff less in damages, but will absorb the legal costs.   It will take little effort to find a DOD Inspector General who will enjoy suing the crap out of Batteroo, SKTA, or whoever has the deepest pockets, just to make a public example of how *not* to do business with the Dept. of Defense.

Unless they have a Senator in their back pocket.  (or a congressman).  Our local congressman gave away 5 billion (yes billion) worth of land to his brother's company.  BUT that had no influence on his decision     (so he said and that was the end of the story and land)

[jancumps]

There is a lawsuit culture over there, isn't it?

[LabSpokane]

There is a lawsuit culture over there, isn't it?

I don't condone the lawsuit culture, but in this particular instance the Qui Tam process has been incredibly productive allowing the US Goverment to prosecute fraud and recover taxpayer money. These suits are typically brought by whistleblower insiders who usually have their careers destroyed in fighting the good fight. Very few of these suits would see the light of day without the commission of fraud, waste, and abuse.

[ez24]

There is a lawsuit culture over there, isn't it?

Not when they say "that had no influence on my decision".  This is their legal defense.

Just because his brother made millions does not mean that that influenced his decision.  Legal defense but not common sense.

[Galenbo]

These were manufactured before last July:


What have they been doing for the last 10 months?

Transferring from a company that knows how to outsource metal-bending and metal-stamping,
to a company that knows how to outsource that thing with the PCB's and that components stuff.

[Kalvin]

Military is using battery-operated monkeys and cheap GPS? Military devices do not have dc-dc-converters built-in? 

[lapm]

Military is using battery-operated monkeys and cheap GPS? Military devices do not have dc-dc-converters built-in?

Thats certainly confusing to enemy. They are throwing what at us? Battery operated monkeys? 

[EEVblog]

First reported case of a refund?

[Kalvin]

First reported case of a refund?

They refunded by mistake.

[Sonny_Jim]

From their facebook page:

Did you know that Batteriser lets you mix old and new batteries together, without any risk of leakage or rupture? The Batteriser's voltage management technology simultaneously prevents extreme discharges while keeping an old battery's energy output consistent, up until a battery is truly dead.

[SL4P]

First reported case of a refund?

Chance is, their records are rubbish or non-existent (they weren't going to ship anyway), so... lodge your claim for 800% more than you ordered.

[FrankBuss]

The military?

They've been using the "military" angle for about six months now.

Maybe it's just a sales angle aimed at patriotic crowdfunders. I can't imagine the military wouldn't test their "800%" claims - it's not like it's a difficult test to do.

Apparently the military doesn't test anything. Anyone who remembers the dowsing rod with no electronics at all in it for bomb detection? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22380368 . At least the Batteriser might have a positive effect for some rare applications, if they don't ship just the sleeves without electronics.

[EEVblog]

Taking bets on when the next (non) update will be...
I say mid May.

[FrankBuss]

Taking bets on when the next (non) update will be...
I say mid May.

What can we win? I say May 1. International workers day is appropriate for so much work.

[rrinker]

 Instead of chicken shit or cow patty bingo for picking contest winners, we can just do Batteriser Update Bingo. Pick a day, sit back, and wait.

 It may be a long time before anything is decided though, that would be the only downside.

[KermitDK]

Taking bets on when the next (non) update will be...
I say mid May.

You left one thing out : What year  

[Brumby]

I'll go for May 5th.

Seems there is a sympathetic 'vibe' with one of the well known amendments to a particular constitution.

[Brumby]

If we can go for a second pick ... how about July 4th.

There's sure to be some fireworks - but will there be 800% more than last year?

[amspire]

I think Thursday fortnight, there will be an announcement that they are in discussion with an unamed major phone and tablet company. Doubling the life of Lithium batteries.

[Barny]

I'll go for May 5th.

Seems there is a sympathetic 'vibe' with one of the well known amendments to a particular constitution.

I don't think they will anounce a specific date.
They haven't said a specivic date once and I don't think they will start doing it now.

[mikerj]

I'll go for May 5th.

Seems there is a sympathetic 'vibe' with one of the well known amendments to a particular constitution.

May the 4th.... 

"This is not the battery life extending device you are looking for"

[rich]

Their IGG updates average about 1month apart so about 8 May 2016 is my bet (for an update, not for ship date). 

Their faecbook page constantly publishes meaningless content. In today's drivel we learn of the awesome:  "Reverse Polarity Protection Mechanism, which prevents any problems that might arise from inserting the battery into the Batteriser upside-down"

And the photoshop is a peach, where to even begin with that. Just take care, those pixels are sharp!

[Fungus]

WTF is that? Is that supposed to fit into a battery compartment. 

[Barny]

  They coatet the + / - contacts too 

[Wytnucls]

It is a colorized picture of an old sleeve design to make it look like the latest model: