EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[SL4P]

In Europe, googling for "Bob Roohparvar" shows a few results, and then the following:

"Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more"
https://www.google.nl/policies/faq/

Apparently he used the "right to be forgotten". I wonder why

...because he's proven that he's completely forgettable - along with his non-product and the family name that he's disgraced.

[Cyberdragon]

In Europe, googling for "Bob Roohparvar" shows a few results, and then the following:

"Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more"
https://www.google.nl/policies/faq/

Apparently he used the "right to be forgotten". I wonder why

Well I'm in the US, so I don't have to worry about that . Googling his ass now...
*processing*
Results:
-a bunch of old batterizer crap from last year
-this: https://www.crunchbase.com/person/bob-roohparvar#/entity
-this: http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=51775
-this: http://ir.tessera.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=560298

Oh and heres a good one...PATENTS
http://patents.justia.com/inventor/bob-roohparvar

[Towger]

Well I'm in the US, so I don't have to worry about that . Googling his ass now...

Is there no links to his collage lecturing job comming up in the US?

Try Farzan Robert/Bob Roohparvar

[EEVblog]

In Europe, googling for "Bob Roohparvar" shows a few results, and then the following:

"Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more"
https://www.google.nl/policies/faq/

Apparently he used the "right to be forgotten". I wonder why

Well I'm in the US, so I don't have to worry about that . Googling his ass now...
*processing*
Results:
-a bunch of old batterizer crap from last year
-this: https://www.crunchbase.com/person/bob-roohparvar#/entity
-this: http://www.photonics.com/Article.aspx?AID=51775
-this: http://ir.tessera.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=560298

There is much more than that as been pointed out on here before:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1261694/000092189513000895/dfan14a06297103_04302013.pdf

http://Farzan Roohparvar joined the Company in March 2011 and was terminated from his position as President of DOC on
September 4, 2012.
? Paid $500,000 as an initial separation payment and $440,000 in additional severance payments, for a total cash
payment of $940,000.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/starboard-delivers-letter-to-tessera-technologies-board-191801441.html

Despite management's assertions that all is well in DOC, the business unit has also been plagued with a revolving door of general managers.  Within the past three years, DOC has had four different general managers. On September 4, 2012, Tessera announced that Dr. Bob Roohparvar was departing the Company less than 18 months after he joined.  His departure cost shareholders close to $950,000 in cash severance, and $1 million when taking into account Dr. Roohparvar's post-departure consulting arrangement with the Company.

[Cyberdragon]

Well I'm in the US, so I don't have to worry about that . Googling his ass now...

Is there no links to his collage lecturing job comming up in the US?

Try Farzan Robert/Bob Roohparvar

I saw them, I just thought Farzan was a different person.

Edit: the patents don't show the pictures! Where's one with the diagrams?

[g.lewarne]

I sense a great darkness in the force over at the indiegogo comments....

[StuUK]

disturbance in the force....

[ez24]

Complaining is a waste of time.  Computers do not care.  No one cares, they have their money, they have spent it and I am sure they are cooking up more ways to get more.  People have got to realize they have been ripped off and stop crying.

[EEVblog]

The thing I don't get is if Batteroo plan to not deliver at all then why bother with the last update specifying a date?
They were home and hosed and could have just vanished before that update which just put the spotlight back on them.
If they have no intention to actually deliver then they are as incompetent at doing that as they have been with their entire campaign.

I still reckon it's that bankrupt shipping company that's at fault 

[digsys]

.. The thing I don't get is if Batteroo plan to not deliver at all then why bother with the last update specifying a date? ...

Din't you (someone) mention that as long as they "appear" to be trying to release a product, and have NOT given up, IG won't go after them?

[McBryce]

The thing I don't get is if Batteroo plan to not deliver at all then why bother with the last update specifying a date?
They were home and hosed and could have just vanished before that update which just put the spotlight back on them.
If they have no intention to actually deliver then they are as incompetent at doing that as they have been with their entire campaign.

I still reckon it's that bankrupt shipping company that's at fault 

The shipping company excuse doesn't work for them. Most of the ships that were blocked were on different routes and had already been at sea for weeks. They've all been allowed into ports now anyway.

McBryce.

[EEVblog]

.. The thing I don't get is if Batteroo plan to not deliver at all then why bother with the last update specifying a date? ...

Din't you (someone) mention that as long as they "appear" to be trying to release a product, and have NOT given up, IG won't go after them?

Maybe, but:
a) They didn't have to put a specific date, they could have more easily just spun more BS.
b) It was 4 months between the previous update with the photos and the latest shipping date update, almost everyone had simply written off the project by that point. IGG usually don't poke the campaign owner unless a lot of people scream.

[Fungus]

IGG usually don't poke the campaign owner unless a lot of people scream.

Does IGG actually do anything about scam campaigns?

(and what could they actually do?)

[coppice]

Does IGG actually do anything about scam campaigns?

Profit? 

[Cyberdragon]

Does IGG actually do anything about scam campaigns?

Profit? 

Indegogo itself is a scam. Granted, kickstarter is full of them too, but indegogo ones tend to be way worse. They can even be downright nasty or dangerous and they don't care! I would post some of them, but they are so bad I really shouldn't, go check out the channel idubbbztv if you want to see some of the worst they allow. If they were legit, that shit would get banned immediately!

[EEVblog]

IGG usually don't poke the campaign owner unless a lot of people scream.

Does IGG actually do anything about scam campaigns?
(and what could they actually do?)

I believe we have evidence on here somewhere that they tapped Batteroo on the shoulder which prompted an update from them, possibly more than once.
Even IIG bowed to pressure and removed that underwater breathing scam.

IIG can't really do anything legally but they certainly can threaten to either remove a campaign page that companies like Batteroo use for publicity forever. Or mark the page with some huge note that they haven't delivered, aren't responsive etc.

[drussell]

...
I would post some of them, but they are so bad I really shouldn't
...

The sticky thread in the "Crowd Funded Projects" department of the EEVblog forum:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/list-of-dodgy-crowd-source-funded-projects/     

[rich]

Oh my! A new tacky marketing bs video preview got released. Seems the new, new, name is "Batteroo Boost" and they haven't given up pedalling them just yet...

What is marginally interesting in the video is the suggestion is to put the sleeve on after the battery has died, and then when they show the graphic of a depleted battery, the % remaining is only 2%. Isn't that an order of magnitude less than their original bs claims of 20% remaining ?

[McBryce]

With voice synthesis because they couldn't find a speaker who was willing to associate themselves with the (non-existant) product, or because they've spent all the money on champagne?

McBryce.

[Fungus]

It's not even by Batteroo, it's by "Appnoon".

WTF?

[rich]

Batteroo outsourcing video production isn't that surprising -they started out with fake fan videos from fiverr in the early days. This and other app noon videos are mostly previews, so the probably just there for Batteroo's approval/change requests. The voice over is probably temporary until a real voice actor is found.

[Kilrah]

Isn't that an order of magnitude less than their original bs claims of 20% 80% remaining ?

FTFY

[rich]

thanks.

[EEVblog]

What is marginally interesting in the video is the suggestion is to put the sleeve on after the battery has died, and then when they show the graphic of a depleted battery, the % remaining is only 2%. Isn't that an order of magnitude less than their original bs claims of 20% remaining ?

Yeah, that's really interesting.
Their original (and still current) claim is 80% of the energy in the battery remains. now this shows 2% 

[Muttley Snickers]

It would appear that the Appnoon mob are putting more effort into the product than anybody else and probably like everybody else getting nothing in return, shameful.