EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Fungus]

I think they probably do have a product

...it's just that nobody has ever seen it and nobody at Batteroo owns a camera to take a picture of Bob holding one.

Uhuh.

[BravoV]

I think they probably do have a product

...it's just that nobody has ever seen it and nobody at Batteroo owns a camera to take a picture of Bob holding one.

Uhuh.

Whats wrong with camera shy ?

[Fungus]

I think they probably do have a product

...it's just that nobody has ever seen it and nobody at Batteroo owns a camera to take a picture of Bob holding one.

Uhuh.

Whats wrong with camera shy ?

  

[Halcyon]

Gees, I've said it before and I'll say it again... I wouldn't trust them to sell a used car. That smirk screams "I've taken/I'm going to take all your money". At least Frankie is being useful as an awards stand. Someone doesn't know how to use a still camera though, that flash is awful.

[McBryce]

My bet is "The manufacturing company has gone bankrupt and aren't releasing the product as they are now in receivership". That could potentially give them an infinite delay.

McBryce.

[EEVblog]

I think they probably do have a product

...it's just that nobody has ever seen it and nobody at Batteroo owns a camera to take a picture of Bob holding one.

Here you go!

[SL4P]

That's a poor quality store display dummy holding up one of the 'old' Batteriser branded parts from around 2014-15

[Sonny_Jim]

So, it takes longer than 7 days to ship a small package? The suspense is killing me, but I guess people in this thread were right.  IGG got complaints, tapped them on the shoulder, the following conversation ensued:

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A:  So IGG has said we need to update or they will kick us off, what should we do?
B:  Just say that due to big battery we can't ship at the moment
A:  But we've already done that, the lawsuit is finished
B:  Ok, then say we are shipping them to our distribution centres!
A:  We already did *that* three months ago and said it would take 2 months
B:  Oh, erm, just say that we are shipping them to our IGG customers!
A:  But what happens when customers don't receive their product?
B:  Oooh, I dunno.  Can you come back later?  I've got Walmart coming in this afternoon.

[Towger]

So, it takes longer than 7 days to ship a small package?

China post 30 to 40 days. Your Batteroos should be with you by Christmas.

[Sonny_Jim]

But but but, they are already in their 'distribution centres' /sarcasm

[LabSpokane]

Hello? Bob? Anyone home?

Where are the photos and testimonials of the happy Batteroo clients doing cartwheels with their new Batteroozers?

If you really have Batteroos to ship, my offer is still good through tomorrow. 

[EEVblog]

The latest comments from Bob Lucas Jr. on the IGG campaign page are gone.

[Muttley Snickers]

That Appnoon mob are still pumping them out, there are no new pictures that I could find from Batteroo so perhaps their camera batteries are flat.   

[EEVblog]

That Appnoon mob are still pumping them out, there are no new pictures that I could find from Batteroo so perhaps their camera batteries are flat.   

How much are they paying for this rubbish?

From the archives for amusement whilst we wait for the delivery truck

[quad]

The latest comments from Bob Lucas Jr. on the IGG campaign page are gone.

Interesting. He was the person doing an excellent job rallying the troops and getting people to take action. He obviously succeeded and they're being childish about it.

Can someone post up on IGG, can they just post one single box to one single backer. Perhaps to Bob Lucas Jr! Why not silence the critics in a more classy manner? Forget big shipping issues. Just deliver ONE SINGLE ORDER. 

Edit: Also, I thought the days of us having to take screenshots because of Batteroo deleting valid and reasonable posts were in the past. *sigh*

[ez24]

From Wiki

Potential dangers

David Jones on EEV Blog raised the concern that because the Batteriser acts as a ground for the boost converter circuit, any nick in the insulation might result in a direct short, and potentially a fire.[16]

Is this true?  This post is too long ot go through to see if this is true.

[samgab]

From Wiki

Potential dangers

David Jones on EEV Blog raised the concern that because the Batteriser acts as a ground for the boost converter circuit, any nick in the insulation might result in a direct short, and potentially a fire.[16]

Is this true?  This post is too long ot go through to see if this is true.

Hmm, well, that's why they're pink now rather than silver coloured. They "fixed" that issue by coating the prototypes' metal outer in a non-conductive pink/red coating of something...

[EEVblog]

From Wiki

Potential dangers
David Jones on EEV Blog raised the concern that because the Batteriser acts as a ground for the boost converter circuit, any nick in the insulation might result in a direct short, and potentially a fire.[16]

Is this true?  This post is too long ot go through to see if this is true.

Yes, I said that in my original video. Batteriser fixed the issue by insulating the metal. Still a potential issue I think, that thin stainless steel is going to be sharp.

[EEVblog]

The other most recent negative comment on IGG is now gone. They are obviously deleting comments again, this isn't the first time.
We should screen capture these.

[EEVblog]

The most recent negative comments remaining:

[Brumby]

Typical reaction from a group incapable of and/or unwilling to silence the critics by the most effective means possible: delivering a product.

It would seem the latest fanfare about shipping Batteroos is nothing more than an another empty promise ... but are we really surprised?

[Muttley Snickers]

This extract from the same Wiki page mentioned above, you don’t need to be named Julius to ask why is it so.   

Roohparvar noted that many critics have drawn conclusions without actually having tried the product.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batteriser

[PeterL]

The latest comments from Bob Lucas Jr. on the IGG campaign page are gone.

Question now is who deleted this. Can Batteroo do that themselves? Or did IGG do this on request of Batteroo.

I guess it's the latter, which makes clear on who's side IGG is.

The latest comment from Bob Lucas that I have seen (and is now gone) wasn't even that harsh. It was a strong advice to Batteroo to give more insight in the process of this project, and show pictures. There was also a link to another 'good' IGG project in it.   (maybe that link triggered the delete?)

It wouldn't suprise me if Bob Lucas is now banned from IGG

[EEVblog]

This extract from the same Wiki page mentioned above, you don’t need to be named Julius to ask why is it so.   

Roohparvar noted that many critics have drawn conclusions without actually having tried the product.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batteriser

That's because:
a) It's engineering, you can do that with, you know, numbers and datasheets.
b) He hasn't shipped long ago promised review units to the media. Nothing, zip, zilch, nada.

[EEVblog]

The latest comments from Bob Lucas Jr. on the IGG campaign page are gone.

Question now is who deleted this. Can Batteroo do that themselves? Or did IGG do this on request of Batteroo.

I believe campaign owners can delete comments.
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