Dave has mentioned it multiple times and even in the video titled"When I was boy",
He said that he was going to make a separate video about it (so he is open to the fact of
disclosing information regarding it).
But ever since then, in all the lengthy interviews, he has never mentioned it at all.
As an electronics student myself, this made me very curious to see how dave got this start.
If Dave or anybody else could answer it, that would be fantastic.
Cheers!
He said "15 is when I started formal engineering education": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpayYlJdbJk
A lot of high schools would let you take university level courses, maybe something related to that?
It depends a bit on the country's school system. Over here you can start an engineering education at the age around 15 / 16.
In the British system when I was growing up, the school leaving age was the year of your 16th birthday, which for many would be age 15 for anyone with a birthday in the summer. After that, there were three broad paths available: (1) leave school and join the workforce, (2) leave school and join a vocational training program, or (3) stay on into the sixth form and study for A levels. Therefore it would be very easy and common to take option 2 and start studying engineering (this would often have been a combination of college attendance and on-the-job training with a sponsoring company.
I imagine the system may have been similar in Australia at the time.
Closer to home, ie here in Australia back in the day, one option available back then was instead of doing senior years, 11 and 12 followed by uni, was to stop at year 10 and spend the next 2 years doing and engineering course at TAFE that would also cover physics and math.
At the end of that you could use thar to get in to you're degree at uni
Closer to home, ie here in Australia back in the day, one option available back then was instead of doing senior years, 11 and 12 followed by uni, was to stop at year 10 and spend the next 2 years doing and engineering course at TAFE that would also cover physics and math.
At the end of that you could use thar to get in to you're degree at uni
That's how it worked in England. Your senior years 11 and 12 would correspond to the sixth form, and studying for A levels in the sixth form would gain entrance to university. However, choosing the option 2 that I mentioned could also get you into university by a different path.
It appears both countries have/had a similar system, in actuall fact it was called 5th and 6th form here as well and changed to year 11 and 12 whilst I was in school
Some states in Australia have an education system that leads to mis-use of the term "college". This might be a peculiarly Tasmanian thing, since each Australian state tends to do its own thing, so I'm not sure if it is where the misunderstanding is happening (Dave is in NSW, so possibly a very different system).
High school goes to about 15 or 16 years of age, then you leave high school and go to a different school for years 11 and 12. This used to be called "matriculation" and later, the "higher school certificate".
In the 1970s and to a lesser extent in the 1980s, most of the students who went on to years 11 and 12 were doing so in preparation for university. Now it's pretty much expected that everyone does it. I think the big change happened in the early 90s when the government stopped allowing 16 year olds to go straight onto unemployment social security (welfare / "the dole"), but they could get a small welfare payment called "Austudy" if they stayed at school until they were 18 - a sly way of making the unemployment figures look better without actually creating any jobs, but hopefully it has improved some people's education.
Many of the schools that exclusively offer years 11 and 12 have the word "college" in their names, which leads local people to say "I went to college" if they did years 11 and 12 (or if they started year 11 and dropped out after the first couple of weeks). On dating sites, people often tick the "some college" box, when this has a very different meaning to "college" as defined under the American education system.
Some states in Australia have an education system that leads to mis-use of the term "college". This might be a peculiarly Tasmanian thing, since each Australian state tends to do its own thing, so I'm not sure if it is where the misunderstanding is happening (Dave is in NSW, so possibly a very different system).
High school goes to about 15 or 16 years of age, then you leave high school and go to a different school for years 11 and 12. This used to be called "matriculation" and later, the "higher school certificate".
In the 1970s and to a lesser extent in the 1980s, most of the students who went on to years 11 and 12 were doing so in preparation for university. Besides now students are much smarter than in the past, for example as a student I used to use Edusson to write my assignment, it helped me a lot plus I had time for hanging out with friends and work, it gave me great opportunities to develop myself, instead of doing homework that no one needs and time is wasted. - a sly way of making the unemployment figures look better without actually creating any jobs, but hopefully it has improved some people's education.
Many of the schools that exclusively offer years 11 and 12 have the word "college" in their names, which leads local people to say "I went to college" if they did years 11 and 12 (or if they started year 11 and dropped out after the first couple of weeks). On dating sites, people often tick the "some college" box, when this has a very different meaning to "college" as defined under the American education system.
That's right, a friend of mine went to 'college' at 14, it works a bit strangely, but that's right.
He said "15 is when I started formal engineering education": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpayYlJdbJk
A lot of high schools would let you take university level courses, maybe something related to that?
Yeah. He has not confirmed anyway and I tend to think that was just some misunderstanding.
Closer to home, ie here in Australia back in the day, one option available back then was instead of doing senior years, 11 and 12 followed by uni, was to stop at year 10 and spend the next 2 years doing and engineering course at TAFE that would also cover physics and math. At the end of that you could use thar to get in to you're degree at uni
Correct.
Yes, I was 15 when I started because I started school a year earlier than most due to when my birthday was. These days it's "trendy" to hold your kids back a year, so there can actually be a two year difference in ages for people in the same year at school.
Not sure Dave was a child prodigy?
No. Just a hobbyist who started young.
High school goes to about 15 or 16 years of age, then you leave high school and go to a different school for years 11 and 12.
Many (most?) schools here actually have it all in the one school, so you don't leave for another school.
In the 1970s and to a lesser extent in the 1980s, most of the students who went on to years 11 and 12 were doing so in preparation for university. Now it's pretty much expected that everyone does it. I think the big change happened in the early 90s when the government stopped allowing 16 year olds to go straight onto unemployment social security (welfare / "the dole"), but they could get a small welfare payment called "Austudy" if they stayed at school until they were 18 - a sly way of making the unemployment figures look better without actually creating any jobs, but hopefully it has improved some people's education.
Yes, changed in 2009
https://education.nsw.gov.au/parents-and-carers/pathways-after-school/school-leaving-ageFrom 1943 until 2009 it has been compulsory for NSW students to attend school until the age of 15.
In line with other states, NSW has now passed legislation to change the years of compulsory schooling.
There is a great deal of Australian and international evidence which demonstrates a high correlation between students’ level of education and their prospects in life.
The research shows that early school leavers are two and a half times more likely to be unemployed, earn lower wages and have poorer quality of life outcomes.
The purpose of the new legislation, therefore, is to ensure that all young people have the best possible chances in life.
After year 10
Under the new arrangements, once a student has completed Year 10 there are a number of options from which to choose. They can:
stay at school and continue into Year 11
choose to do an apprenticeship or a traineeship
study vocational courses at TAFE
do a course in higher education
do other approved education or training
be in employment, as long as it is full-time, paid work
do a combination of a number of these.
If a student is in Year 10 or below they need to start thinking about the best pathway for them.
Students should discuss their options with their parents, principal, careers adviser, year adviser or teachers.
Although I'm not sure how you could actually stop any 16yo or 17yo from simply walking away after year 10 and doing nothing? What are they going to do, fine the parents? Fine the kid?
Many of the schools that exclusively offer years 11 and 12 have the word "college" in their names
I went to literally the worst high school in the country (as in front page national newpapers notoriously bad), and it's since been renamed a "college".
There is also Hillsong "college" in my business park here. Hundreds of American parents pay big dollar to send there kids here and they think they are getting a "college" education
I wish I could start my engineering education at 15, but in my country it is possible only at 19 years old. But even if I could go to college at 15, I don't think that I would handle all the pressure. You always have tons of homework, assignments etc. The only way to succeed would probably be using
https://edubirdie.com/assignment-help or something similar in order to get some assignment help. But anyway, Dave Jones is a great guy!