EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[EEVblog]

Can we keep this one on-topic please, this is a highly watched thread.

[Brumby]

The power management systems on electric and hybrid vehicles make the efforts of the Batteroo sleeve look like a pile of rocks sitting next to the pyramids - but there is no surprise in this.  Batteroo's big claim to fame is not function - but size.

However, Batteroo has distinguished itself with being the quintessential embodiment of vapourware.

We had people hanging out for them for Christmas - last year - and we are still waiting.  Anyone game enough to bet that Batteroo sleeves will be available for Christmas 2017?

[ccs46]

The power management systems on electric and hybrid vehicles make the efforts of the Batteroo sleeve look like a pile of rocks sitting next to the pyramids - but there is no surprise in this.  Batteroo's big claim to fame is not function - but size.

However, Batteroo has distinguished itself with being the quintessential embodiment of vapourware.

We had people hanging out for them for Christmas - last year - and we are still waiting.  Anyone game enough to bet that Batteroo sleeves will be available for Christmas 2017?

I'm going to bet that something will come up again and delay them and give them a few more months...  Like I said... They obviously haven't run out of excuses nor delays. I hear the maritime piracy rate is up... The container ship is looking like a more probably answer every day... 


Also in other news, has this post become the longest post in EEVBlog history?

[Marcel_X]

On IGG there is another one claiming to have received the Batteroorisers :-) Could be another joke.

[Fungus]

Anyone game enough to bet that Batteroo sleeves will be available for Christmas 2017?

 

Does anybody seriously believe they're manufacturing anything?

(other than lies)

[Howardlong]

On IGG there is another one claiming to have received the Batteroorisers :-) Could be another joke.

Maybe, but Myle Home Automation seem to have a use for it in their CulCharge. In French, my OH tells me this translates literally to Butt Load, just so you know where those Batterisers are going.



Oh, looky here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/culcharge-the-smallest-wearable-3-in-1-powerbank

From the well-known Hong Kong enclave of Bratislava, the last update was 8 months ago, when shipping started, apparently. And yet there seem to be lots of folks who've received bugger all. There's a pattern forming here.

[Sonny_Jim]

How long will this post last?

That entire post, including Alex Maleks original comment has now disappeared, along with a lot of other comments.

[g.lewarne]

Do you think the Rooparvarisers actually, really, honestly, believe that getting their paid friends and coworkers to post on facebook and indiegogo saying they have received them will work in pumping up interest?

It has been proven time and again that the public are not that stupid and you will get caught.  So many startups and crowdfunded projects have fallen victim to their own stupidity in this way.

Considering not a SINGLE person has posted photos of what they have supposedly received.

[PeterL]

Does anybody seriously believe they're manufacturing anything?

(other than lies)

I seriously believe they have NOT done anything since the campaign ended.

Somehow I have a feeling they never wanted to do a crowdfunding campaign, but they had to to close the deal with the big investors (SKTA). And I think they are now in some kind of a deadlock with SKTA:
- They just want/need SKTA's money before producing and shipping any batteriser.
- SKTA's demands results from the project before clearing the money.

Their last lie about having shipped something was IMO just a desperate last attempt to please some important people.

If you ask me this saga is nearing it's final chapter, and it will end without anyone ever getting a batteriser.

It's all a bit like a snail in a well, they are climbing up 4m at daytime, but then slide back 5m at night. 

[Sonny_Jim]

aaand now I'm unable to post on the Batteroo Facebook page.  Ho hum. 

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Hi,

Here is the latest from the IGG site. It is Bob encouraging people to post photos !!!

Why doesn't he post some photos?



Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B

[lpickup]

Really?  SEVERAL times?

While I suppose there is no upper limit to what "several" may mean, to me it generally means less than 10.  For this kind of product I would expect him to say HUNDREDS of times...

[PeterL]

Here is the latest from the IGG site. It is Bob encouraging people to post photos !!!

Bob better hurry with his 'automated review solution'...

[Kjelt]

While I suppose there is no upper limit to what "several" may mean, to me it generally means less than 10.  For this kind of product I would expect him to say HUNDREDS of times...

Perhaps the metal sleeve is ultra thin and metal fatigue is easy when removing batteries all the time.

[ez24]

Hi,

Here is the latest from the IGG site. It is Bob encouraging people to post photos !!!

Why doesn't he post some photos?

Is it possible people are cutting themselves so badly they cannot take pictures?

[madires]

Really?  SEVERAL times?

While I suppose there is no upper limit to what "several" may mean, to me it generally means less than 10.  For this kind of product I would expect him to say HUNDREDS of times...

Yep, question and answer seem totally absurd. Like asking how many times I could refill my car's fuel tank.

[EEVblog]

Really?  SEVERAL times?
While I suppose there is no upper limit to what "several" may mean, to me it generally means less than 10.  For this kind of product I would expect him to say HUNDREDS of times...

Yup.
Translation - To make it fit into stuff it has to be so thin as to render it impractical for continued reuse, making it an almost disposable product. We wanted to save the world, but ended up just polluting more.

[EEVblog]

Here is the latest from the IGG site. It is Bob encouraging people to post photos !!!

It's very interesting that Bob is both replying to Bob Lucas Jr's post whilst deleting his other ones.

[EEVblog]

Once again they claim they are shipping.
Has anyone received an actual tracking number? let alone the product of course

[Muttley Snickers]

The several times usage more than likely refers to the fact that the user will initially place the sleeves on flat batteries in a device then realise that there is no major gain or benefit to be had, they will then try the sleeves in a different device to confirm their findings only to again verify that they got shafted and led astray, the pissed off user will then simply place the sleeves in a drawer and go on the internet to broadcast how ridiculous these products really are only to be convinced by some internet cookie to try them again one last time in a particular manner before finally spitting the dummy and placing them in the recycle bin.

Several times probably means the same as the three strikes and you’re out rule.   

[trophosphere]

Having the product only last "several times " is a pretty good business move as that will mean customers will have to buy these products repeatedly.* They no longer will be just one time customers.

* Assuming these things actually work and get shipped in the first place. 

[johndoe123]

Really?  SEVERAL times?

While I suppose there is no upper limit to what "several" may mean, to me it generally means less than 10.  For this kind of product I would expect him to say HUNDREDS of times...

only if handled with care!

[rrinker]

 But hey, 8x more battery life means you dump 1 battery plus 1 Batteroo in the trash as opposed to 8 batteries - should be a net gain, right? 

[Brumby]

Really?  SEVERAL times?

That jumped out at me also.


As a piece of electronic hardware, it should have a MTBF of several thousands of hours ... but are they being cautious because of the mechanical handling risk?

Or are they just lowering expectations?

[Jay_Diddy_B]

Hi,

More from the IGG campaign, in case it gets deleted, Bob Lucas Jr. is asking Bob to show some pictures:



Regards,

Jay_Diddy_B