Hmm ill have to dig around ebay and take a look. But that seems like a pretty good option
Thanks!
Well at first i was actually asking my teacher if i could buy one of the schools old CRO's. It seemed they never really got used. But it seems because i have impressed him so much with my project and being the first student in the history of the school to get a project into this exhibition that he wants to give me a gift. Even as a memory it will be nice, when i'm older and if it still works after many years of good use it will be a nice reminder to what went on in my last years of school. Even if it stops working and is unrepairable ill still keep it.
Anyway he's ordered it yesterday so i'm going to probably receive it in about a week.
Thanks everyone!
I know of some gliding clubs near me, and they would make me a better pilot, but right now all my money is going to flight training so i can get my commercial license as fast as i can. Then i may pickup gliding as a hobby haha.
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a better scope; which was my point.
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a better scope; which was my point.
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?A lot of SPI communication either happens in the upper 10Mhz range or faster than that, up to 80Mhz + And SPI is fairly common. Fast op-amps may have nano second rise times. There are tons of reasons why 100ms/s is not adecvate today.
Rigol offers 10 times the capability for less than twice the cost. Not to mention it's a proper scope with a real analog front end and 4 channels. It's a far better bang per buck than Discovery, outside of some very limited use cases.
Discovery is great for a student who want to carry it with their laptop and be able to do some bare minimum measurements. But it is a no substitution for a full featured Oscilloscope in my opinion.
Of course you can buy more tools if you elect not to get an oscilloscope. Oscilloscope is the most expensive instrument in most hobbyist labs. Getting something that has 1/10th of the capability for half the cost is not a good bargain.
If you only need it to pass the class get a Discovery. But if you're serious about electronics get a real scope it doesn't cost that much more and it offers tons more capability.
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a better scope; which was my point.
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?A lot of SPI communication either happens in the upper 10Mhz range or faster than that, up to 80Mhz + And SPI is fairly common. Fast op-amps may have nano second rise times. There are tons of reasons why 100ms/s is not adecvate today.
Rigol offers 10 times the capability for less than twice the cost. Not to mention it's a proper scope with a real analog front end and 4 channels. It's a far better bang per buck than Discovery, outside of some very limited use cases.
Discovery is great for a student who want to carry it with their laptop and be able to do some bare minimum measurements. But it is a no substitution for a full featured Oscilloscope in my opinion.
Of course you can buy more tools if you elect not to get an oscilloscope. Oscilloscope is the most expensive instrument in most hobbyist labs. Getting something that has 1/10th of the capability for half the cost is not a good bargain.
If you only need it to pass the class get a Discovery. But if you're serious about electronics get a real scope it doesn't cost that much more and it offers tons more capability.
You're missing my point. If you have $600 to spend on a lab (from mostly scratch), spending all of it on one instrument is ridiculous.
If you have $600 to spend on a scope, by all means get a DS1054Z, but that's a different question, and I stand by my original statement that:
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a scope
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a better scope; which was my point.
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?A lot of SPI communication either happens in the upper 10Mhz range or faster than that, up to 80Mhz + And SPI is fairly common. Fast op-amps may have nano second rise times. There are tons of reasons why 100ms/s is not adecvate today.
Rigol offers 10 times the capability for less than twice the cost. Not to mention it's a proper scope with a real analog front end and 4 channels. It's a far better bang per buck than Discovery, outside of some very limited use cases.
Discovery is great for a student who want to carry it with their laptop and be able to do some bare minimum measurements. But it is a no substitution for a full featured Oscilloscope in my opinion.
Of course you can buy more tools if you elect not to get an oscilloscope. Oscilloscope is the most expensive instrument in most hobbyist labs. Getting something that has 1/10th of the capability for half the cost is not a good bargain.
If you only need it to pass the class get a Discovery. But if you're serious about electronics get a real scope it doesn't cost that much more and it offers tons more capability.
You're missing my point. If you have $600 to spend on a lab (from mostly scratch), spending all of it on one instrument is ridiculous.
If you have $600 to spend on a scope, by all means get a DS1054Z, but that's a different question, and I stand by my original statement that:
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a scope
I know of some gliding clubs near me, and they would make me a better pilot, but right now all my money is going to flight training so i can get my commercial license as fast as i can. Then i may pickup gliding as a hobby haha.
I don't know where you are in your training, but consider that gliding is a very inexpensive way of learning precision flying.
By "precision" I mean good stick-and-rudder control, getting a feel for what the air is about to do to you, and keeping an accurate position 200ft behind another aircraft while it is moving up/down and sideways in turbulent air. Also dealing with "eventualities" such as engine failure, "strange" approaches"[1], aircraft appearing from nowhere and landing in front of you and behind and alongside you while you are doing a "forced" landing.
Once you have all that under your control (ho ho), you are in a good position to move onto the more expensive tuition about how to deal with bits that explode[2] and keep you cool[3].
[1] normal training includes the instructor putting you in a ridiculous position (e.g. over the landing point at 600ft/90kt flying in the wrong direction) and saying "you have control, get us down safely".
[2] my club had a tug that occasionally needed jump starting. In a powered club it would never have left the hanger, but in the gliding club the attitude was "it is only the engine, what's the problem?".
[3] when the big fan stops turning, powered pilots start sweating
Analog Discovery is pretty limited. 100ms/s is only really usable under 10Mhz. The analog front end is pretty limited as well. The 14-bit ADC is good for some audio work but Analog Discovery is not really comparable to a real Oscilloscope like a CRO or a DS1054z. USB scopes in general have clunky software. I would not go for a USB scope over a real scope unless you really need compactness, or it's all you can afford. And even then, decent USB scopes tend to actually cost more.
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a better scope; which was my point.
How many beginners are looking at frequencies > 10MHz when they start?A lot of SPI communication either happens in the upper 10Mhz range or faster than that, up to 80Mhz + And SPI is fairly common. Fast op-amps may have nano second rise times. There are tons of reasons why 100ms/s is not adecvate today.
Rigol offers 10 times the capability for less than twice the cost. Not to mention it's a proper scope with a real analog front end and 4 channels. It's a far better bang per buck than Discovery, outside of some very limited use cases.
Discovery is great for a student who want to carry it with their laptop and be able to do some bare minimum measurements. But it is a no substitution for a full featured Oscilloscope in my opinion.
Of course you can buy more tools if you elect not to get an oscilloscope. Oscilloscope is the most expensive instrument in most hobbyist labs. Getting something that has 1/10th of the capability for half the cost is not a good bargain.
If you only need it to pass the class get a Discovery. But if you're serious about electronics get a real scope it doesn't cost that much more and it offers tons more capability.
You're missing my point. If you have $600 to spend on a lab (from mostly scratch), spending all of it on one instrument is ridiculous.
If you have $600 to spend on a scope, by all means get a DS1054Z, but that's a different question, and I stand by my original statement that:
For a beginner, (USB Scope + 1-2 * Multimeter + Good Soldering Iron + Bench PSU) is better than just a scope
Hi, i think you may have misread this thread.
My teacher wanted to buy me a scope, he gave me a budget of $600.
I've already got what i think is a pretty decent entry level meter (Amprobe 15XP-B) and the Hakko Fx-888D.
The only thing i'm missing is a scope and a power supply.
Although for now i atx power supplies seem to be working for me in most cases, i would however want to get a variable power supply down the track. Right now ive ordered a few cheap components from ebay like a DC-DC buck regulator and some voltage displays. It only set me back about $10 so even if its useless i havent lost much.
And also the scope is now on its way.