In Australia,there are two levels of nurses---one level have Degrees,the other level don't.
And a "Doctor" is normally just a Bachelor of Medicine---they are not Doctors in the University sense!
So that's completely different from here.
The doctor/arts has an University degree (7 years)
Nurse diplomas exists in 2 major categories. Secondary and Bachelor.
People without degree do the cleaning of the rooms and transport patient beds between departments.
There exists something that could be translated as assistant-nurse, the cannot inject/give pills/other, but even that requires a diploma.
In Australia,there are two levels of nurses---one level have Degrees,the other level don't.
And a "Doctor" is normally just a Bachelor of Medicine---they are not Doctors in the University sense!
So that's completely different from here.
The doctor/arts has an University degree (7 years)
Nurse diplomas exists in 2 major categories. Secondary and Bachelor.
People without degree do the cleaning of the rooms and transport patient beds between departments.
There exists something that could be translated as assistant-nurse, the cannot inject/give pills/other, but even that requires a diploma.
I did not mean to imply that the "Doctor" who looks after you medically doesn't have a University Degree.
He/She is usually "A Bachelor of Medicine".
Most GPs don't have a Doctorate as the title is used in other fields--"Doctor of Philosophy","Doctor of Science","Doctor of Divinity",etc.
Re Nurses:- In my home State of Western Australia,there are two levels of Nurses,both of which can add extra oroficiencies as they progress through their careers.
Enrolled Nurse:- These Nurses have a Diploma from a TAFE College or similar qualifications.
Registered Nurse:-RNs have a Bachelor of Nursing Degree from a University.
A "Nurse Practitioner" is a a RN who has achieved the Degree of "Master of Nursing" at University.
I did not mean to imply that the "Doctor" who looks after you medically doesn't have a University Degree.
He/She is usually "A Bachelor of Medicine".
Most GPs don't have a Doctorate as the title is used in other fields--"Doctor of Philosophy","Doctor of Science","Doctor of Divinity",etc.
It gets very messy with all those terms...
In our region, university degree implies a master.
All "doctors" have that, but indeed Doctorate is completely another thing.
In our region, university degree implies a master.
All "doctors" have that, but indeed Doctorate is completely another thing.
Here a "doctorate" can mean two things. The usual PhD, or a DSc which requires
decades of
sustained achievement and publications.
...My problem with the 'traditional' educational institutes was that i had to learn the same stuff over and over again ( plus oodles of stuff i had no interest in learning )...
This was my first problem with [a well-regarded engineering university] in the early 90's...
I went to an American school for engineering and all I remember is hell. There were about ten times the number of students who wanted to major in EE than there were places for them. It was pure competition. It seemed like every class was there to weed people out. Boredom was not a problem, fear was.
...and that was my second problem.
Thus I am self-taught (or, for a more pretentious way of saying it: an auto-didact). I am reluctant to call myself an EE - I believe that one should have the little piece of paper that goes with the title - but seeing as I've designed high power Class A & D audio amplifiers; Class C & E RF amplifiers (including a real gem - a 10kW RF exciter for a CO2 laser [that approach is now obsolete]); switchmode power supplies of all topologies up to ~2kW and motor drives up to power levels of 1.6MW (that's
mega, not
milli), I feel like I am fairly competent at what I do. Oh, and I can get ethernet to work inside one of those 1.6MW drives. Take that EMC bitches!
When you start out in the business...EE degree is helpful. Later on....when your degree is like 20-30 years old...no one cares at least about your grades
When you start out in the business...EE degree is helpful. Later on....when your degree is like 20-30 years old...no one cares at least about your grades
That depends on what type of job you are aiming at, and when.
For most of my jobs, and certainly all of the good/fun ones, a
good degree was
absolutely essential. I
know for a fact I wouldn't have reached the interview stage without it. I know that since I was
intimately involved in
all aspects of the the recruitment processes for several years in several jobs.
Having a solid track record of achievement (even before my first "real" job) was also essential.
That certainly can be the case for the 10-15 years after a degree. But I will agree that near retirement (i.e. after 30 years) it is less likely to be relevant
Simple point: you are competing against people with a degree. Idiot HR-droids will use any uncontestable fact (whether or not it is relevant) to reduce the pile of CVs and enable them to protect their back against later complaints.
When you start out in the business...EE degree is helpful. Later on....when your degree is like 20-30 years old...no one cares at least about your grades
Agreed. And for many (maybe most) of those I worked with all of the courses taken are long forgotten. But it was my observation that a majority of those who made it to the top of the heap remembered and applied everything they had been exposed to, from university on.
When you start out in the business...EE degree is helpful. Later on....when your degree is like 20-30 years old...no one cares at least about your grades
Agreed. And for many (maybe most) of those I worked with all of the courses taken are long forgotten. But it was my observation that a majority of those who made it to the top of the heap remembered and applied everything they had been exposed to, from university on.
Yes indeed. Very true, and probably not understood by those that have not (quite possibly through deliberate choice) made it to the top of the heap.
Nicely put.
When you start out in the business...EE degree is helpful. Later on....when your degree is like 20-30 years old...no one cares at least about your grades
Yes, grades is like best before date on milk bottles! The real problem in the industry is the HR people and their attitudes and their backgrounds and their;
we are going to rule the world, mentality.
I had an experience recently. If you can bypass the Human ressources, you've a chance otherwise you're kind of screwed. Most of them don't know what you're talking about, they want "a profil" more than anything else. Sometimes it becomes annoying and such a waste of time.
The guy I had on the phone just wanted to have the work done and didn't care for the degree/diplomas. Do the job and do it well.
So "It depends" (that expression must be the "engineering Mantra"
). Hope isn't lost.
That is almost entirely different to my EE degree course, which was ~90% hardcore electronic/computing.
In fact, I would suggest to any American students looking for an engineering degree program to consider studying in the UK. The fees will be relatively modest compared to many US private universities and you will get to spend much more time learning what you are interested in.
Personally I would avoid the UK. I got my degree in EE there but it is now a very expensive destination for education. Much of Europe degree level education is free or only a few hundred Euro per year. The courses are usually taught in english in an environment which is clean and safe. I emigrated a few years ago and nothing would entice me back.