I'm going to enjoy the YT thread comments on this one
Here in South Africa you still have 2G cell services available, but only in rural areas where they do not have the actual user density to make an upgrade worth while. Also only the one provider, using equipment they bought at scrap metal prices from the other operators as they were upgrading networks. As it breaks it gets replaced with 3G equipment, also used equipment, but not worth spending the money to replace the old stuff.
The rest are rolling out 4G to replace 3G, and will probably only deploy 5G in areas of high use density, as South Africa, like Australia, is a big place, and relatively low population density.
Currently -91dBm signal strength from the tower 9m above me, and -71dBm from the other network provider 100m away. Think I have more worries from lead and cyclic aromatics from car emissions than I have from any other thing.
By the way, the thing you are most likely going to die from is cancer, especially in the developed world, and in countries with more or less adequate healthcare. Not because cancer rates are increasing, but more due to more people actually living to the point where all other reasons that would have killed them off, like diabetes, heart attack, stroke, measles, smallpox, polio, influenza, any bacterial infection, childbirth, broken bones, tonsillitus, dental issues, or intestinal upsets like cholera.
Remove all the things that would, even a century ago, have resulted in around half the population not surviving past 60, and the thing that will kill you are the things that are the slowest to do so. As well detection rates are improving, so you can tell a person has cancer while the cancer is still small, and then treat it with a moderate amount of success, instead of the old method, which was finding out that the person had cancer either at the most advanced stage, or in a post mortem.
Most of the people I know of who have died did so from cancer, except for those who died from HIV, TB or from violent incidents. More because they all had controlled the other ways to die, and got old, mostly well into the 80's and low 90's.
I don't know who is the more anti-science: Flat Earthers, Anti-Vaxxers, or the Anti-5G crowd.
Unreal what I've been seeing in my facebook feeds lately.
And one of them also added a tidbit about smart meters being radioactive - if you live in my area, have a basement, and are down there with a Geiger counter and DON'T have a radon evacuation system, guess what you are reading? The geological formation in this part of the US is a natural radon source, and most houses are dug down to have basements around here. It's nearly pointless to have radon testing done - unless your basement walls are so porous as to be useless at being walls, you WILL have radon without a mitigation system.
It's like the nuts for years saying that putting your cell phone up against your head on the 4G network will give you brain cancer because of the RF "woo-woo" radiation waves
I mean from the early fifties to the two thousands, televisions stations pumped out tons of RF signal on the analog channels and no one complained about the dangers of the RF signals for all those years.
I don't know who is the more anti-science: Flat Earthers, Anti-Vaxxers, or the Anti-5G crowd.
Without any real medical, biology or chem/pharma education and experience under your belt,
you would trust someone to vaccinate you based on scare tactics and "play it safe and follow the herd" mindset ?
Flat Earthery and 5G conspiracy clownage aside, mostly Click On This..stupidity that can't directly harm,
how are you going to laugh off chemicals being injected into you, and the people around you, that none know anything about?
Vaccines have been known to go south BADLY,
and some are nothing better than colored water 'snake oil' placebos,
or a soon neutralized chem mix in the bloodstream, the body soon rids itself of quickly
i.e. anti-vaxxers get my
bored attention way before all the other conspiracy flogging knuckleheads
YMMV/EMMV
Exactly, broadcast services use kilowatts to megawatts of power with good penetration.
I predict their next conspiracy is about thermal noise, secret woo woo information hidden encrypted in random noise......
But I do agree with the conspiracy that some Asian authoritarian governments use 5G and IoT to do mass surveillance, political policing and censorship.
That’s not specific to 5G though. You can’t do anything in those countries without certain apps and those have location awareness and run well above the application layer. The 5G bit is almost entirely irrelevant to the problem because any transport layer or below is irrelevant.
Well 5G will and should be used here in Austria to boost Landline DSL Service because the dont replace the crappy old Cable from the 50is who just slow speed DSL goes truth.
Another think is here you get a damn cheap Flat over Cellular Service who is cheaper than DSL. Many people use them for there 2nd Weekend House to.
The claim to need it for Autonomous Cars. Why Autonomous Cars should need a Internet Connection I dont know... What I guess to Upload all the Tracking sshhttt also realtime Video and Images from the Passenger.
What make me concern is the 60Ghz Freq!
Why? First it's absorbed by atmospheric oxygen which give it hardly any realistic range (intentionally!). Secondly it's limited to approx 10mW TX power in the UK at least with 30dBi antenna gain which is quite frankly bugger all. You couldn't warm up a gnat's testicles with it.
This one will get the paranoids going
. You're not allowed to use it within 6km of these grid coordinates in the UK
Site 1: 57° 21' 3.6",-07° 23' 36.6"
Site 2: 51° 37' 16.8",-04° 58' 21"
Site 3: 52° 38' 1.8", -00° 36' 22.8"
OK, not being a Brit, I give up - looks like some sort of military installation at each of those coordinates, although the last looks more like a leftover WWII relic in rather dilapidated condition. Unless it's hiding some missile silos.
The autonomous car needs an internet connection to entertain the passengers, since no one has to drive, what are you going to do, sit there? Fire up your laptop and get some work done on the commute to work. Stuck in traffic? No problem, no lost time. Of course when we reach critical mass with truly autonomous cars, there will end up being new workplace rules. "I was logged in and working by 8, even if I didn't actually arrive at the office until 9:30" isn't going to cut it.
It's early warning radar installations.
Actually the location logging has saved me before. I went to McDonalds one fine morning and got some coffee on the way somewhere. On the way back I said fuck it and got a bic mac from the same place. Mmm cardboard. Alas their stupid "max 2 hour parking" thing decided I'd been there the entire day because I was tailed by a van and dispatched the parking trolls to fine me. I sent them a screen cap of google location services attached to a shitogram and they apologised.
Well 5G will and should be used here in Austria to boost Landline DSL Service because the dont replace the crappy old Cable from the 50is who just slow speed DSL goes truth.
Bingo. 5G speed is not just for cell phones but also to replace wired internet connections to homes. And this is not something new! Many years ago I visited Indonesia. Using a 3G modem was much less expensive compared to DSL and the speed was even better.
Autonomous cars (and non autonomous with a high level of driving assistance) need to communicate between eachother in the near future (it is already happening on a small scale) which is where 5G also comes in handy as well.
It's early warning radar installations.
Actually the location logging has saved me before. I went to McDonalds one fine morning and got some coffee on the way somewhere. On the way back I said fuck it and got a bic mac from the same place. Mmm cardboard. Alas their stupid "max 2 hour parking" thing decided I'd been there the entire day because I was tailed by a van and dispatched the parking trolls to fine me. I sent them a screen cap of google location services attached to a shitogram and they apologised.
@bd139 the apology means nothing unless there's some serious meal pack vouchery tossed in
to stifle any thoughts of letters of complaint to Maccass HQ and their subbied parking goons
They wasted your time after deemed guilty till DIY proven innocent, for parking in their space to spend money on their
nutrition enriched products
Bottomless coffee and shakes for 12 months would be my lowest 'sign the waiver and walk away' terms
Autonomous cars (and non autonomous with a high level of driving assistance) need to communicate between eachother in the near future (it is already happening on a small scale) which is where 5G also comes in handy as well.
Well why does the not use the Frequency for that car2car communication?
I am to lazy to look up which one is for. Its some Ghz Freq.
60Ghz - 5G is mostly to spy on Cars and there passenger. Like a Tesla who have atleast 1 Cam filming the Passenger.
I was just looking at Big Clive's video and noticed the thumbs down so soon I'd thought I'd compared them:
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423 thumbs down but not so consistent with the previous videos from the 5g worriers.
60Ghz - 5G is mostly to spy on Cars and there passenger. Like a Tesla who have atleast 1 Cam filming the Passenger.
Also to get traffic information, roadworks data, map updates, AGPS data...
Have you, uh, driven a modern car, let alone a semi-automated one? They don't exist in a vacuum like old ones. Wait, why do I ask conspiracy theorists if they use modern technology..
Also to get traffic information, roadworks data, ... , AGPS data...
15 - 10 Years ago we did do that with GPRS and the did also worked.
And Map Updates could work from Home via Wifi or via LTE.
why do I ask conspiracy theorists if they use modern technology..
Would you denial that the US is monitor the hole Network Traffice of the "free World".
Damn I would like life in that repressing country where People could say what the think.
Tesla does updates from Wifi for ref...
Also to get traffic information, roadworks data, ... , AGPS data...
15 - 10 Years ago we did do that with GPRS and the did also worked.
And Map Updates could work from Home via Wifi or via LTE.
There's more data and more users, so we need a newer technology to scale up. How is this a hard concept?
why do I ask conspiracy theorists if they use modern technology..
Would you denial that the US is monitor the hole Network Traffice of the "free World".
Damn I would like life in that repressing country where People could say what the think.
... yes, actually, I would deny that any one state has the capacity to monitor the entire network traffic of the planet, because I have a clue.
I would deny that any one state has the capacity to monitor the entire network traffic of the planet
The british could monitor the German, the German the Polish and the Polish the Portuguese,... so nobody violate the most of the laws in there country.
I would deny that any one state has the capacity to monitor the entire network traffic of the planet
The british could monitor the German, the German the Polish and the Polish the Portuguese,... so nobody violate the most of the laws in there country.
And now the claims swing to suit your desperate need to believe they're out to get you, while all valid points are cast aside as irrelevancies.
Oh, and yes, it would violate many laws even then, while still not occuring because the traffic just doesn't route that way.
i heard 5G can kill coronaviruses ... let's install many many many towers, preferably one per home... better safe than sorry.
Often forgotten: go into the sun and have a 1-2 kW/m² exposure right where you are ... just for comparison. The heating effect is there, but the body seems good at working around it.