I'm actually more interested in the phenomena on the basic research level.Me too. I don't dismiss the idea entirely. But I can't imagine actual methodology. We have cameras, there is no need to develop them. That's actually the whole issue. As our cameras get better, the fewer UFOs we observe. Same with Yeti/Bigfoot. Once cameras became very good and virtually everyone has one, sightings dropped quite a bit.
So, instead of low level details, I'd like to see a high level plan and study actual feasibility.
Yes, like the women who believe gender is a social construct. Well that's nice until you're in hospital being raped by a 6' 6" man who was placed on a female ward because he identifies a woman.
Edit: just realized UFO's don't have to be alien and therefore might not show up in outer space. But then it just another man (sorry women, it is just the standard expression) made object and not really that interestingNo, there are actually quite a few possible natural candidates, like ball lightning (some kind of self-contained plasma phenomena).
A particularly interesting one would be to catalog all the visual effects caused by insects. These often fly relatively close to the camera, quite fast, and the visual signature can be difficult to classify. (In some cases, they can even have relatively sharp edges, making it difficult to show that it is a small object close to the camera and not a large object far away. There is even a "rod" community, believing that such images are not caused by insects, but by "impossibly fast" extraterrestrial exploration devices or something...)
Since multiple cameras with overlapping fields of view (fisheye lenses with full sky coverage) can triangulate all objects except those that are too close (to a single camera), it would be rather easy to distinguish these cases, by the simple fact that they are too close to be triangulated. You cannot do that with a single camera, and it can be difficult with two cameras (depending on the location and orientation of the insect), but with three (cameras in a triangle), it becomes much simpler.
Similarly, combining multiple full-sky visual and infrared images could be very useful for meteor and meteoroid tracking. It might even be useful for atmospheric research (if simultaneous local temperature, wind speed, etc. information is available).
It does annoy me a bit that people immediately jump to "so you're looking for aliens". No, it's much more than that; that's just a side effect, and more likely would result in excluding extraterrestrial craft than anything else. But really, it is just basic research about our environment.
Here in the North, the best time for observations is during the winter, which does pose quite a few limitations for the actual devices, pushing up the price of the devices (and therefore the risk of vandalism and theft, too).
What one watches at Youtube is a bit more complex, though, because the interaction is often one-way. For myself, there are many completely secondary details that affect me way, way more than the opinions of the presenter. Like the fact that I don't like watching a talking head at all.
The ball lightning I know exists but have never seen it in real life. Read about it entering via a window and roaming through the room a long time ago. Can't remember if it did damage. (Before internet) Interesting phenomena as is lightning itself.
Theft to some extend can be understood as a way of life support, but vandalism is just crazy.
Theft to some extend can be understood as a way of life support, but vandalism is just crazy.No, it's just kids roaming around and poking stuff; they don't know any better.
Yes, like the women who believe gender is a social construct. Well that's nice until you're in hospital being raped by a 6' 6" man who was placed on a female ward because he identifies a woman.
You're talking about two mutually exclusive subjects here. Whether or not you believe in the complexities of gender identity or not is neither here nor there. Rape is rape, regardless of the gender of the victim or the accused.
QuoteBTW, Zero999's is not trans panic but a fact (here, here, here and many others).
See, it's not that those people are doing that. It's the way you are describing it.
I will show you the correct way to describe it:
Rapists are criminals.
Doesn't matter if they're trans or cis, straight or gay. Anyone can be a criminal. Not all trans people are criminals.
No, that wasn't precisely said. It's implied. It's implied by repeating the lie so often it gets lodged into your mind as a given truth.
And if you were really concerned about people being raped in prison, surely you would be screaming from the hills about this and this and this?
And you can fuck right outta here with this shit,Way to go to prove Dave's point. Let's all cancel and cast away someone that is talking about what someone else dislikes.
I have enough respect for people here, to call attention to something, and allow them to correct the wrong.
You're the only one jumping to "cancel culture".
Tim
No, because rape as stated by UK law, can only be committed by a man. Women can commit other serious sexual assaults, but not rape. They don't have the equipment to do so.
Yep. Regarding “trans panic”, a good friend of mine is trans (post op) and she’s worried about it as well. Both from the perspective of being lumped in the same bucket as that lot and being the target of the abuse. It’s definitely a problem.
Some humans are shitty regardless of their software or hardware configuration. However I think we should just lump shitty people in the same bucket and ignore all the other bits.
No, because rape as stated by UK law, can only be committed by a man. Women can commit other serious sexual assaults, but not rape. They don't have the equipment to do so.Yes, I hear about this antiquated law recently.
Reminds me to some laws in parts of USA where the law states that they have to keep hay in taxis, in case the horse pulling it would become hungry.
Worth reading the following to see how shitty humans can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
Worth reading the following to see how shitty humans can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
Worth reading the following to see how shitty humans can be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defenseThanks for the clarification.
I've seen this study recently, which seems to bring up some data about the issue to be very deeply embedded into people.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19419899.2017.1328459?cookieSet=1
I would like to point out the very high confidence factor in the study.
I am one of those people who accept the fact that we are a product of evolution, and evolution has resulted some programming that is against the current leftist push. You cannot really teach a fish to fly by shaming it publicly, or constantly showing it pictures of birds now, can you?
I see lots of polarising left vs right in this thread, absolute assignment of attributes and lots of poor assumptions about consistency of people's beliefs based on political spectral alignment. On top of that lots of poorly derived assumptions about other people's views on things.
I prefer to take the subgenius position because there's bananas self-serving dickheads on the left, on the right and in the middle
Regarding sexual preferences, you are what you are but may not be what you were and the only worry is if you regret what you have become. What you do as a person is entirely separate be that good or bad.
I see lots of polarising left vs right in this thread, absolute assignment of attributes and lots of poor assumptions about consistency of people's beliefs based on political spectral alignment. On top of that lots of poorly derived assumptions about other people's views on things.
I prefer to take the subgenius position because there's bananas self-serving dickheads on the left, on the right and in the middle
Regarding sexual preferences, you are what you are but may not be what you were and the only worry is if you regret what you have become. What you do as a person is entirely separate be that good or bad.
Honestly, I dont know how did it happen, that all the political views have been reduced to a 1D line.
It baffles me that we made necessary to make this choice in most democracies on a single line, and completely binary in the USA? There is only an extreme leftist and a ultranationalist party in the USA now? What if someone is eg pro guns, gay rights and not a climate change or science denialist? (which may or may not be my view) If I would need to vote there, I would seriously just vote with my feet. Same goes to the UK now.
All those "movements" and "initiatives" we encounter last 30 years and which you have mentioned above are results of an increased push for new markets, more sales, more revenues, better profits (lower costs)..
Think about for a while - the more diversified markets, more diversified audiences/customers, more diversified life styles, more diversified political views, more diversified employees, more genders, more diversified managements, more diversified needs and products, the more space for achieving the goals in all areas above..
All those "movements" and "initiatives" we encounter last 30 years and which you have mentioned above are results of an increased push for new markets, more sales, more revenues, better profits (lower costs)..
Think about for a while - the more diversified markets, more diversified audiences/customers, more diversified life styles, more diversified political views, more diversified employees, more genders, more diversified managements, more diversified needs and products, the more space for achieving the goals in all areas above..I don't see the more diversified political views. Those which support big business are the ones which are accepted over others. Take immigration for example. It results in increased population, more demand for goods and services, higher property prices and cheap labour. These are things large companies like. Anyone who expresses concerns over immigration gets branded a Nazi by the mainstream media.
I see lots of polarising left vs right in this thread, absolute assignment of attributes and lots of poor assumptions about consistency of people's beliefs based on political spectral alignment. On top of that lots of poorly derived assumptions about other people's views on things.
I prefer to take the subgenius position because there's bananas self-serving dickheads on the left, on the right and in the middleI don't get the left vs right thing.
I suppose I admit, I'm right wing in many respects, but don't agree with all of it. I certainly support women's rights, public healthcare and education, which are left wing positions. I'm all for gay rights too. The trans thing is more complicated and I support their rights, where they don't conflict with those of women.
I see lots of polarising left vs right in this thread, absolute assignment of attributes and lots of poor assumptions about consistency of people's beliefs based on political spectral alignment. On top of that lots of poorly derived assumptions about other people's views on things.
I prefer to take the subgenius position because there's bananas self-serving dickheads on the left, on the right and in the middleI don't get the left vs right thing.It is hard for the common person to follow all the nuances and ambiguities of society - daily concerns of much greater importance (food, education, etc.) take precedence, thus it becomes much easier to put people in buckets for control. Not only that, but the left vs right brings a lot of money - the guy in the middle can be the depicted capitalist or the government (with its politicians and actors) that will use their power (both political and monetary) to maintain the status among the crowd. Many of those cultural discussions that happen nowadays in the US (and sadly trickle down to the rest of the world) are panis et circensis for much more lucrative ventures such as the constant flood of money and equipment to Ukraine, for example (which was taken off the eyes of the US public by Will Smith's slap at the Oscars).I suppose I admit, I'm right wing in many respects, but don't agree with all of it. I certainly support women's rights, public healthcare and education, which are left wing positions. I'm all for gay rights too. The trans thing is more complicated and I support their rights, where they don't conflict with those of women.I am of a similar vein and I personally don't care for the gender proclivities of parts of the population - they can coexist in society as well. What it does not sit well is the extremism and the current shaming tactic to gain acceptance, especially if it affects the less powerful than you.
I'm going to seek a border here and also respond to a couple of posts back.
You are talking about "not liking to be the gender you are born with"
and "being attracted to the same sex" and stating it is nature, which I agree on. Yes you are born with it, is what I believe, but is this not also true for pedophiles and psychopaths.
So should we let them have their way too?
Don't get me wrong, just playing the advocate of the devil here
I'm going to seek a border here and also respond to a couple of posts back.
You are talking about "not liking to be the gender you are born with"Gender dysphoria is poorly understood, so I don't know if I agree with that part. It's possible it's a result of trauma, just as much as nature. All I know is there many people who've gone through transition and regretted it. The fact it's not fully understood, means we should take a more conservative approach when it comes to dealing with it and no I'm not talking about politics here: the first rule of the Hippocratic oath is do no harm.
Quoteand "being attracted to the same sex" and stating it is nature, which I agree on. Yes you are born with it, is what I believe, but is this not also true for pedophiles and psychopaths.
So should we let them have their way too?
Don't get me wrong, just playing the advocate of the devil here
Unfortunately there's a group of people who want to destigmatise paedophilia. There are academics who want to use the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons) because they feel the word paedophile carries negative connotations. Some of them such as PIE (Paedophiles' Information Exchange) have infiltrated some LGBT rights groups. It is a big problem.
Some social stigmas and taboos exist for a reason and should be preserved because eliminating them has negative consequences for society as a whole. There are valid reasons when incest, paedophilia, rape and murder are universally considered to be bad. Let's keep it that way.