There are a large number of EV manufacturers from China breaking through into the UK/EU market.
he competition in the EV space will be fierce from China and Japan could very well lose their vehicular dominance if they fail to keep up with the competition. The lack of development from TNissan, still using the same outdated passively cooled battery packs that deteriorate almost as fast as a lettuce, and Toyota and Honda is rather telling. Of course, they're betting on hydrogen and ICE, but it's a very brave bet given where things look to be going.
You keep going around in circles with this. But the annual KPMG reports are pretty clear and Toyota + Nissan not being in a hurry to switch over the massive EV production, should tell you the future isn't set in stone yet AND very likely different from what you expect. The error in your reasoning is that you are extrapolating from the growth rate for something that is still in it's infancy stage. Toyota OTOH is playing the long game here. They are steering the company towards products they can sell in the future.
Just look at Europe. The number of electric cars is below 1% of all cars and at some point sales will level off because a BEV doesn't make sense to buy for the majority of people.
It will just push all ICE vehicles to that category.
There are a large number of EV manufacturers from China breaking through into the UK/EU market.
he competition in the EV space will be fierce from China and Japan could very well lose their vehicular dominance if they fail to keep up with the competition. The lack of development from TNissan, still using the same outdated passively cooled battery packs that deteriorate almost as fast as a lettuce, and Toyota and Honda is rather telling. Of course, they're betting on hydrogen and ICE, but it's a very brave bet given where things look to be going.You keep going around in circles with this. But the annual KPMG reports are pretty clear and Toyota + Nissan not being in a hurry to switch over the massive EV production, should tell you the future isn't set in stone yet AND very likely different from what you expect. The error in your reasoning is that you are extrapolating from the growth rate for something that is still in it's infancy stage. Toyota OTOH is playing the long game here. They are steering the company towards products they can sell in the future.
Just look at Europe. The number of electric cars is below 1% of all cars and at some point sales will level off because a BEV doesn't make sense to buy for the majority of people.
There are a large number of EV manufacturers from China breaking through into the UK/EU market.
he competition in the EV space will be fierce from China and Japan could very well lose their vehicular dominance if they fail to keep up with the competition. The lack of development from TNissan, still using the same outdated passively cooled battery packs that deteriorate almost as fast as a lettuce, and Toyota and Honda is rather telling. Of course, they're betting on hydrogen and ICE, but it's a very brave bet given where things look to be going.You keep going around in circles with this. But the annual KPMG reports are pretty clear and Toyota + Nissan not being in a hurry to switch over the massive EV production, should tell you the future isn't set in stone yet AND very likely different from what you expect. The error in your reasoning is that you are extrapolating from the growth rate for something that is still in it's infancy stage. Toyota OTOH is playing the long game here. They are steering the company towards products they can sell in the future.
Just look at Europe. The number of electric cars is below 1% of all cars and at some point sales will level off because a BEV doesn't make sense to buy for the majority of people.Toyota actually made a 180. New CEO. News for today.
There are a large number of EV manufacturers from China breaking through into the UK/EU market.
he competition in the EV space will be fierce from China and Japan could very well lose their vehicular dominance if they fail to keep up with the competition. The lack of development from TNissan, still using the same outdated passively cooled battery packs that deteriorate almost as fast as a lettuce, and Toyota and Honda is rather telling. Of course, they're betting on hydrogen and ICE, but it's a very brave bet given where things look to be going.You keep going around in circles with this. But the annual KPMG reports are pretty clear and Toyota + Nissan not being in a hurry to switch over the massive EV production, should tell you the future isn't set in stone yet AND very likely different from what you expect. The error in your reasoning is that you are extrapolating from the growth rate for something that is still in it's infancy stage. Toyota OTOH is playing the long game here. They are steering the company towards products they can sell in the future.
Just look at Europe. The number of electric cars is below 1% of all cars and at some point sales will level off because a BEV doesn't make sense to buy for the majority of people.
Top speed and track vehicles will be ICE for some time; Formula 1 will remain ICE with hybrid function because it's just not possible to hit the power-weight-endurance metrics with electric just yet. Hydrogen might actually work quite well here, though they'd probably have to use even higher than 700 bar pressure to get the density into the vehicle.
They will be competing with all the other legacy users for bio/synth fuel, with synth fuel production cost setting the price. Not enough arable land in the world to do it with biofuel alone, the legacy market will be too f'ing huge. Only synthetic with air captured CO2 scales at net zero.
Or biofuel from ocean algae, 3x as much ocean area as land area.
That said, just making use of otherwise unused/underused land is an easier place to start.
Formula E exists but the cars are rather slow compared to Formula I.
F1 has never been about best performance. Rules have been adjusted several times to keep all teams somewhat competitive.
You'd be likely damaging biodiversity unless you're putting closed bioreactors in the desert, but bioreactors are expensive.
In the 2022 report, the only thing I can see relevant is that they believe EV's may not replace ICE by 2030 worldwide, they don't make any predictions about 2050. They are less optimistic than 2021 (possibly due to continuing semiconductor headaches.) Though they still believe cost parity for EV's will be met by 2030 - as observed in UK/EU cost parity has already been reached in some sectors like luxury/SUV and in other sectors it is approaching parity like in small cars.
This is just a survey of executives too, they would be quite happy to sell ICE vehicles as it's something they know well, EV's represent a risk that they would rather not take on.
Edit: Looks like Marco beat me to it
"May not", in bullshit-free, plain speaking world, = "Absolutely won't AND we know it, but don't have the courage or honesty to admit it"
Most commentators and politicos know the date is not cast in stone , it’s an aspiration , and no doubt individual countries will evaluate as the date approaches ( as will the EU) if excemptions are needed.
What’s clear is that categories where BEV substitutes exist will be subject to the ban and furthermore excemptions will be granted to specific categories where a Bev substitute is not readily available , the current thinking is freight , heavy equipment and certain business categories.
However the personal car ban will remain in one form or another
I may "aspire" to fly to Pluto on a paper aeroplane... but it won't ever happen. This EV stuff en masse, won't ever happen. No need for "rebuttals" or other such, just allow time to unfold, wait and see.
My reasons for not wanting an electric car are that they are simply too powerful. I'm perfectly happy at around the 200 hp-220 hp ballpark. If I were to get a car with even just a small amount more I would hate it because it would make me feel nervous about driving it. As it is now my current car is producing less than 200hp, at 183 hp, and that is brand new specs.
I learned driving a car with no more than 140 hp at 3750rpm when new, it definitley had less than that when I was driving it. It was perfectly adequate because it also had 316nm of torque at 2400 rpm. It was also lighter than modern cars. I don't understand why people today need these high powered cars it just makes the road conditions more unsafe and gives you less time to react.
What I'm mainly interested in is low down torque and towing capacity and fuel economy.
There is no car currently on the market and there won't be one for quite a while IF EVER that is mainly focused on low cost and low power outputs with high torque outputs for additional towing capacity and is a wagon or utility.
My requirements are that it also be low to the ground, because I have to get my mum in and out of the car as she is an invalid, but the electric cars that come close to my requirements are far too overpowered and too high off the ground. So because of this requirement the only options out there are a Toyota Camry but even then they aren't a wagon and they aren't exactly known for their towing prowess and Toyota don't make a camry thats all electric. And the Camry is front wheel drive. And manufacturers usually go all out when putting power to the ground in new electric cars.
For a technical forum there sure are a lot of Luddite’s around here.
We're not stupid. Not everything brand new is good or safe or wise.
The Atom bomb for example.
I’m just sitting here, laughing at how supposedly intelligent people are so gullible
I’m just sitting here, laughing at how supposedly intelligent people are so gullible
Or entrenched viewpoints held by the ill-informed Who seem to read largely conspiracy websites nonsense
My reasons for not wanting an electric car are that they are simply too powerful. I'm perfectly happy at around the 200 hp-220 hp ballpark. If I were to get a car with even just a small amount more I would hate it because it would make me feel nervous about driving it. As it is now my current car is producing less than 200hp, at 183 hp, and that is brand new specs.
I learned driving a car with no more than 140 hp at 3750rpm when new, it definitley had less than that when I was driving it. It was perfectly adequate because it also had 316nm of torque at 2400 rpm. It was also lighter than modern cars. I don't understand why people today need these high powered cars it just makes the road conditions more unsafe and gives you less time to react.
What I'm mainly interested in is low down torque and towing capacity and fuel economy.
There is no car currently on the market and there won't be one for quite a while IF EVER that is mainly focused on low cost and low power outputs with high torque outputs for additional towing capacity and is a wagon or utility.
My requirements are that it also be low to the ground, because I have to get my mum in and out of the car as she is an invalid, but the electric cars that come close to my requirements are far too overpowered and too high off the ground. So because of this requirement the only options out there are a Toyota Camry but even then they aren't a wagon and they aren't exactly known for their towing prowess and Toyota don't make a camry thats all electric. And the Camry is front wheel drive. And manufacturers usually go all out when putting power to the ground in new electric cars.
What “ hard “‘realities , just stick to technical ones. Politics isvt discussed rationally here
What “ hard “‘realities , just stick to technical ones. Politics isvt discussed rationally here
Who mentioned politics? 🤨