Sprinkler systems suck for appartment buildings.
In the US, most, perhaps every tall building has a built in fire-friendly hose system called a standpipe and the bottom connection is placed where its easy for firefighters to get to it even if the building is on fire.
Is that common in the UK?
And what is more fun to a bunch of teenagers then to activate the sprinkler system?
each foor will have a dry-riser outlet near the lift - inside a locked steel door.
the only people with keys are the council-maintenance people and firebrigade.
Not quite. Firstly, although the dry riser cabinets are locked (with a service key, not a 'proper' lock) they have breakable glass access panels.
each foor will have a dry-riser outlet near the lift - inside a locked steel door.
the only people with keys are the council-maintenance people and firebrigade.
Not quite. Firstly, although the dry riser cabinets are locked (with a service key, not a 'proper' lock) they have breakable glass access panels.
sorry, but i lived in London flats - i could go take some foto's in the week if you want.
the risers have steel plate where the glass "should" be, and are locked with a yale door style lock and/or a 3-lever padlock.
Do they still have the brass pipe connections for the lay flat hoses, the hoses and the brass fittings on the ends of said hose. Here hose reels are common, and the reel is made from steel, has a steel valve on it and a plastic nozzle end, because if it is made from brass or aluminium it basically will not survive the night, though you often find them being used as impromptu car washing hoses or to wash the assorted "you really do not want to know what this is" from the exterior stairs, landings and walls.
And what is more fun to a bunch of teenagers then to activate the sprinkler system? And how about (slightly) mentally disturbed inhabitants who set it off and soak the homes below? Sprinkler systems suck for appartment buildings.
Do they still have the brass pipe connections for the lay flat hoses, the hoses and the brass fittings on the ends of said hose. Here hose reels are common, and the reel is made from steel, has a steel valve on it and a plastic nozzle end, because if it is made from brass or aluminium it basically will not survive the night, though you often find them being used as impromptu car washing hoses or to wash the assorted "you really do not want to know what this is" from the exterior stairs, landings and walls.
All they need to do is train two surveillance cameras on opposite sides of each building and tie them in to an instance of OpenCV that will immediately send an alarm 24/7 if flame is seen.
No need to evacuate anybody.
There are some cities in the US (Ive never lived in an area this bad) where metal theft is common, but I sincerely doubt if fire hardware inside of apartment buildings would get stolen, ever.
So if the fire started at 4:00 AM precisely.
How long would it take a pensioner, who lives on the 24th floor and is in their 80's, who can't hear very well (maybe can't hear fire alarm too well), and walks extremely slowly. To get down 24 flights of stairs, which is rapidly filling with impossible to see through or breath, smoke and the temperatures are skyrocketing, due to the massive cladding/building fire ?
So if the fire started at 4:00 AM precisely.
How long would it take a pensioner, who lives on the 24th floor and is in their 80's, who can't hear very well (maybe can't hear fire alarm too well), and walks extremely slowly. To get down 24 flights of stairs, which is rapidly filling with impossible to see through or breath, smoke and the temperatures are skyrocketing, due to the massive cladding/building fire ?
So here on Spain is mandatory (CTE-DB-SI )that the building of this characteristics have an emergency lift or for firefighters
So if the fire started at 4:00 AM precisely.
How long would it take a pensioner, who lives on the 24th floor and is in their 80's, who can't hear very well (maybe can't hear fire alarm too well), and walks extremely slowly. To get down 24 flights of stairs, which is rapidly filling with impossible to see through or breath, smoke and the temperatures are skyrocketing, due to the massive cladding/building fire ?
So here on Spain is mandatory (CTE-DB-SI )that the building of this characteristics have an emergency lift or for firefighters
I'm not sure how that would work out. If an all rooms in the building fire started (so everyone needs to get out), and there are 600 people, who all would ideally like to use the lift to get out, at the same time.
Anyway, I don't think the UK has such regulations.
It does. UK Building regulations approved document B section 18.2. What Vodka fails to make clear, although you can figure it out if you second guess him, is that he's taking about lifts for firefighting, not escape; which is what is addressed in the UK regulations I've cited, shafts and lifts for firefighting.
Robbing doorknobs? In old houses in Detroit typically what gets robbed is copper piping. Which often ends up tragically when perfectly good foreclosed houses that could have been sold and become an affordable home for somebody get flooded and become so moldy they become dangerous to be in and impossible to clean so a complete loss and have to be torn down.