Nominal Animal…you and I have much in common !
Fraser
Hm..
Probably how I would handle this is a paper letter mailed to the CEO (or any high-up person that you know will listen).
In the letter you would outline the issue and what dishonest things this person has been doing.
The letter would end in your official resignation with a statement that you enjoy working there and would be very happy to come back but it's either him or you.
Tell them you will give them 1-2 month before you move on.
Then you take some time to do things around the house that you've been putting off, you look for new jobs etc..
But mostly you are waiting for bad stuff to happen at the company, due to you not being there, which proves to them you're more valuable than he is. By quitting you regain control of the situation.
Either they will call, and you get your job back, or they don't and you move on.
Hm..
Probably how I would handle this is a paper letter mailed to the CEO (or any high-up person that you know will listen).
In the letter you would outline the issue and what dishonest things this person has been doing.
The letter would end in your official resignation with a statement that you enjoy working there and would be very happy to come back but it's either him or you.
Tell them you will give them 1-2 month before you move on.
Then you take some time to do things around the house that you've been putting off, you look for new jobs etc..
But mostly you are waiting for bad stuff to happen at the company, due to you not being there, which proves to them you're more valuable than he is. By quitting you regain control of the situation.
Either they will call, and you get your job back, or they don't and you move on.
Getting fired looks bad on a job application or resume.
QuoteGetting fired looks bad on a job application or resume.
Yep, this is a biggy. Even if you have a cast iron excuse, no-one will read that and just see 'fired'.
Hm..
Probably how I would handle this is a paper letter mailed to the CEO (or any high-up person that you know will listen).
In the letter you would outline the issue and what dishonest things this person has been doing.
The letter would end in your official resignation with a statement that you enjoy working there and would be very happy to come back but it's either him or you.
Tell them you will give them 1-2 month before you move on.
Then you take some time to do things around the house that you've been putting off, you look for new jobs etc..
But mostly you are waiting for bad stuff to happen at the company, due to you not being there, which proves to them you're more valuable than he is. By quitting you regain control of the situation.
Either they will call, and you get your job back, or they don't and you move on.
As a side note: My saying is that companies as an entity have the moral compass of a 4 year old child.
Nominal Animal…you and I have much in common !As do I and probably others on the forum too. Caring for the work and trying to do it perfect will bring you down in the end. Been there twice. The first time full on breakdown, the second time almost and I walked away from it. After that I tried to keep ahead of it, but it was not easy. It is housed in my DNA
As a side note: My saying is that companies as an entity have the moral compass of a 4 year old child.Not always true.
When I worked for HP, and before Princess Fiorina, there was a very strong moral compass inside HP. It was known as "The HP Way".
You can control what you do, how you react. Take charge of your life. Don't be a victim.
Nominal Animal…you and I have much in common !As do I and probably others on the forum too. Caring for the work and trying to do it perfect will bring you down in the end. Been there twice. The first time full on breakdown, the second time almost and I walked away from it. After that I tried to keep ahead of it, but it was not easy. It is housed in my DNAThat's exactly the reason I'm voicing it out: people like us, including tszaboo, technically oriented people motivated by the work itself, are particularly susceptible to this; and this can easily destroy us. I'm just waving a flag, saying "here lies a dangerous pitfall, beware", and describing what happened to myself to show that the pitfall has sharp spikes in it, illustrating how serious a danger it is.As a side note: My saying is that companies as an entity have the moral compass of a 4 year old child.Not always true.
When I worked for HP, and before Princess Fiorina, there was a very strong moral compass inside HP. It was known as "The HP Way".It depends on the owners and stockholders, actually. The purpose of a company is to make profit, and if the leadership puts anything before profit, stockholders may take them into court. However, if the owners/stockholders tell the company to behave in a specific way, then the situation is different.
Thing is, how many Owners are there that put things like company morals ahead of their own profit? Not many. Some, yes; but not many.
Making a profit is not evil -- that's how we put food on the table. And there is no good reason that a company has to behave in an evil manner in order to make a profit. But sometimes they do, by pursuing short-term gain while ignoring long-term damage, or by allowing personal biases to destroy the work environment. It's tough to run a company, and sometimes unpleasant decisions have to be made. And you have to make choices based on uncertain factors, steering into a future that is unknowable. And sometimes people are just stupid.
Making a profit is not evil -- that's how we put food on the table. And there is no good reason that a company has to behave in an evil manner in order to make a profit. But sometimes they do, by pursuing short-term gain while ignoring long-term damage, or by allowing personal biases to destroy the work environment. It's tough to run a company, and sometimes unpleasant decisions have to be made. And you have to make choices based on uncertain factors, steering into a future that is unknowable. And sometimes people are just stupid.
I guess I am saying that guessing at motivations is sort of useless. Look at the facts of your situation and act on those facts. How or why are not important. You can control what you do, how you react. Take charge of your life. Don't be a victim.
Aside from that, I do think there is a niche for every kind of human personality.
Making a profit is not evil -- that's how we put food on the table. And there is no good reason that a company has to behave in an evil manner in order to make a profit. But sometimes they do, by pursuing short-term gain while ignoring long-term damage, or by allowing personal biases to destroy the work environment. It's tough to run a company, and sometimes unpleasant decisions have to be made. And you have to make choices based on uncertain factors, steering into a future that is unknowable. And sometimes people are just stupid.
Hm..
Probably how I would handle this is a paper letter mailed to the CEO (or any high-up person that you know will listen).
In the letter you would outline the issue and what dishonest things this person has been doing.
The letter would end in your official resignation with a statement that you enjoy working there and would be very happy to come back but it's either him or you.
Tell them you will give them 1-2 month before you move on.
Then you take some time to do things around the house that you've been putting off, you look for new jobs etc..
But mostly you are waiting for bad stuff to happen at the company, due to you not being there, which proves to them you're more valuable than he is. By quitting you regain control of the situation.
Either they will call, and you get your job back, or they don't and you move on.That won't work. No employer will give an employee that kind of power. Just quit and say/write you got a better job offer elsewhere.
BTW: CEO or any other person at management level won't care about problems between employees; they expect the lower management to deal with that.
Hm..
Probably how I would handle this is a paper letter mailed to the CEO (or any high-up person that you know will listen).
In the letter you would outline the issue and what dishonest things this person has been doing.
The letter would end in your official resignation with a statement that you enjoy working there and would be very happy to come back but it's either him or you.
Tell them you will give them 1-2 month before you move on.
Then you take some time to do things around the house that you've been putting off, you look for new jobs etc..
But mostly you are waiting for bad stuff to happen at the company, due to you not being there, which proves to them you're more valuable than he is. By quitting you regain control of the situation.
Either they will call, and you get your job back, or they don't and you move on.That won't work. No employer will give an employee that kind of power. Just quit and say/write you got a better job offer elsewhere.
BTW: CEO or any other person at management level won't care about problems between employees; they expect the lower management to deal with that.
That wasn't really the point, the point was to make it known at a higher level why you are leaving. It's not an ultimatum or power play, it's just
"Hey, you have a big problem and i'm leaving because of it"
And even then management can decide to make the company less dependant on a single person.