This is a good reminder that just because you don't know why something works the way it does doesn't mean the engineers were high, mmkay?
But then how much hot water gets wasted? (In the form of hot water in the pipes that cools off.) It may or may not be saving you money in the end. Remember that a modern washer uses extremely little hot water in the wash phase (like around 10l for a medium size load). Unless the washer is right next to the hot water heater, there might be that much just in the pipes...
The enzymes in modern detergents don't need high temperatures, and in fact some of the enzymes are deactivated by heat. The detergents are, in fact, designed to do different things at different temperatures, so it's actually desirable for the wash to heat slowly.
Now I give my clothes to the washer and I lose control of what happens. I cannot add clothes, I cannot speed up the process, I cannot do anything but submit to the higher authority of the washer and humbly collect my clothes when the washer is ready to return them.
I used to be able to have much more control over my washer and I liked it that way. Again, this is just me; I realize the big market consumers may prefer the way things are going now.
When I have a very small load of maybe just some underwear I will just do it manually in one of those big plastic paint buckets rather than use the washer. In fact, I have been thinking of inventing some way to hang the bucket and have a small motor shake it a bit. Maybe I should open a thread to discuss this
I’d love to know though, why oh why, when the water is filling, does it have to turn the water supply on and off FOURTEEN TIMES???
I’d love to know though, why oh why, when the water is filling, does it have to turn the water supply on and off FOURTEEN TIMES???What’s the time frame in which this occurs?
I’d love to know though, why oh why, when the water is filling, does it have to turn the water supply on and off FOURTEEN TIMES???What’s the time frame in which this occurs?Felt like about 3 minutes from start to finish. I'll try to remember to time it next time.
You should buy one as on the video. The fact is that when manually doing your very small load you'll most likely spend more water than modern washing machine.
Water hammer arrestors are a good idea. When renovating I would install a blind, vertical section of pipe to act as hammer arrestor.
Commercially available arrestors have a bladder to prevent the air from dissolving in the water but the amount of air is quite small. If you install a length of pipe you will have more air but it may eventually dissolve in the water if the water itself does not bring enough air with it in which case you would need to empty the water once in a while and let some more air in.
And the bladders end up failing as well. Nothing is eternal. At one time I had an upside-down clear glass bottle as a hammer arrestor so I could see the water level inside.
Water hammer arrestors are a good idea. When renovating I would install a blind, vertical section of pipe to act as hammer arrestor.
Commercially available arrestors have a bladder to prevent the air from dissolving in the water but the amount of air is quite small. If you install a length of pipe you will have more air but it may eventually dissolve in the water if the water itself does not bring enough air with it in which case you would need to empty the water once in a while and let some more air in.
And the bladders end up failing as well. Nothing is eternal. At one time I had an upside-down clear glass bottle as a hammer arrestor so I could see the water level inside.
Installing blind pipes is a bit of a no no especially if it can sustain an air pocket, because of Pontiac disease and all that.
Less water but ~30X the wear on the fill solenoids and the tiny SOT-223 triacs, shortening the washing machine's trip to the landfill.
Washing machines are over $1,000 and you are paying $1 a load just for the machine alone.
I know many people who replace their washing machine due to the high repair cost. xxx's dollars to replace a sensor, board, solenoid etc.
Detergent clogging a valve, lint in the pressure sensor tubing, a bad pushbutton switch on the front panel... the machine gets thrown out into landfill.
It's great for manufacturers to keep selling new products. But higher environmental costs given less water and energy but more dumpster traffic.
Installing blind pipes is a bit of a no no especially if it can sustain an air pocket, because of Pontiac disease and all that.
SQ still makes washers that use an electromechanical timer and plain electromechanical float switches and solenoid valves.
Oh and it's top loader too so no problems with mold or mildew.
Installing blind pipes is a bit of a no no especially if it can sustain an air pocket, because of Pontiac disease and all that.
To give it some movement with little energy I let it hang while I hold the handle in my hand and I give it a swirling motion. It takes very little energy and I have been thinking how I could duplicate it with a small motor.
This is a good reminder that just because you don't know why something works the way it does doesn't mean the engineers were high, mmkay?
I agree with this but it also doesn't mean the engineers always get it right.
And sometimes things which may be justified from a technical point of view can be annoying to the consumer.
And I realize many things change to satisfy the public at large even though they may be annoying to me in particular. The manufacturers are looking for the large market share, not outliers.But then how much hot water gets wasted? (In the form of hot water in the pipes that cools off.) It may or may not be saving you money in the end. Remember that a modern washer uses extremely little hot water in the wash phase (like around 10l for a medium size load). Unless the washer is right next to the hot water heater, there might be that much just in the pipes...
Not a consideration in my case although I acknowledge that it might be relevant in most cases.The enzymes in modern detergents don't need high temperatures, and in fact some of the enzymes are deactivated by heat. The detergents are, in fact, designed to do different things at different temperatures, so it's actually desirable for the wash to heat slowly.This is all very well but we have turned doing a load of washing into a high-tech process where I have lost control whereas thirty years ago it was simpler and I had total control.
Now I give my clothes to the washer and I lose control of what happens. I cannot add clothes, I cannot speed up the process, I cannot do anything but submit to the higher authority of the washer and humbly collect my clothes when the washer is ready to return them.
I used to be able to have much more control over my washer and I liked it that way. Again, this is just me; I realize the big market consumers may prefer the way things are going now.
When I have a very small load of maybe just some underwear I will just do it manually in one of those big plastic paint buckets rather than use the washer. In fact, I have been thinking of inventing some way to hang the bucket and have a small motor shake it a bit. Maybe I should open a thread to discuss this
Sounds to me like you need to try some modern washers. The Siemens machine in my apartment lets me add clothes at any time, speed up (at higher energy cost) the cycle, or slow it down and save energy, and has cycles to support washing just a single item or two.
Now I give my clothes to the washer and I lose control of what happens. I cannot add clothes, I cannot speed up the process, I cannot do anything but submit to the higher authority of the washer and humbly collect my clothes when the washer is ready to return them.
I used to be able to have much more control over my washer and I liked it that way. Again, this is just me; I realize the big market consumers may prefer the way things are going now.
When I have a very small load of maybe just some underwear I will just do it manually in one of those big plastic paint buckets rather than use the washer. In fact, I have been thinking of inventing some way to hang the bucket and have a small motor shake it a bit. Maybe I should open a thread to discuss thisYou should buy one as on the video. The fact is that when manually doing your very small load you'll most likely spend more water than modern washing machine.
https://youtu.be/ouri6W7dgvM
SQ still makes washers that use an electromechanical timer and plain electromechanical float switches and solenoid valves.I find them even less reliable.QuoteOh and it's top loader too so no problems with mold or mildew.How does it make any difference?
2) Top loader means that the water drain is in the bottom of the tub and it drains better than a side loader. I've never heard of a top loader having mold or mildew or odor problems but those are common in side loaders.
2) Top loader means that the water drain is in the bottom of the tub and it drains better than a side loader. I've never heard of a top loader having mold or mildew or odor problems but those are common in side loaders.And where do you think front loaders have water drain located, on top? Googling shows enough of top loader pictures with mold.
Sounds to me like you need to try some modern washers. The Siemens machine in my apartment lets me add clothes at any time, speed up (at higher energy cost) the cycle, or slow it down and save energy, and has cycles to support washing just a single item or two.Yes, like politicians, first they create the problem which did not exist before, and later they resolve the problem that they themselves created.
I could go on and on but appliances are over-dependent on the embedded system to generate features and sell points. The complexity is so great that service and repair is difficult and these machines are disposable now.