@kpr8:
Do you have the new driver installed ?
Sounds a lot like the BS from freeloaders using 'backups' in their modded XBoxes and then got banned from XBLive. 'We restored the original firmware & still banned - no fair'Sorry but this has nothing to do with freeloading. It is as if you buy a PC with Windows but it turns out it has is no valid Windows license. Microsoft notifies you of this issue politely and allows a grace period instead of reformatting your hard drive immediately.You have had many years of grace period but still buy the fakes coz they are a buck cheaper - M$ give you 30 days iirc. You did nothing because you didn't have to - that's freeloading on FTDIs goodwill in my bookNot many years. I just got the boards a couple of weeks ago and the chips look like the genuine ones even under a magnifier. As I wrote before I have the genuine parts in stock so I put them side by side. Either way there is no freeloading by me. I bought a product in good faith and spend two hours figuring out why the boards (suddenly) didn't work after being used on a Windows machine. If the FTDI driver had prompted me that the chips on the board where fake and therefore could not be used I would not have needed to spend to hours trying to figure out what is wrong.
@kpr8:
Do you have the new driver installed ?
Sure, and I use legitimate FTDI parts & so I have 0 issues (actually I use Linux so it's a non-issue)
To be clear, I am trolling you. BUT the fact remains this is a problem that the 'build it cheap in China' movement has brought on it's own head. A couple of dozen butt-hurt makers isn't going to make a fig of difference to FTDI and if you think otherwise then you're a fool
Yeah, this is a good old fashioned internet flame war - bring it!
You know what I would like to know? Up to what level in management of FTDI this "feature" in the driver software was sanctioned. For all we know this shitstorm ends up in the press and next monday the responsible FTDI engineer and supervisor who thought this was a clever idea are fired with a new software driver on the way. Reputation damage is already done.
Putting on a TFH, I would not be surprised if KRP8 is not a Social Media Damage Control expert/consultant. FTDI Chip makes an account and makes a single post; the board blasts them, so then comes in a new guy with no prior posts to call everyone who whines something along the lines of "negligible slime."
.. You may even have heard of me in the hacking sceen
Go FTDI! It's about time someone made a stand. FTDI have been delivering innovative & quality products for years and deserve to be rewarded for their efforts. If they don't get paid then YOU don't get new parts to play with (have you checked out the FT800/1 parts? freaking awesome)
Hehe, here is yout fish <°))))><
Maybee you're right, but who do you think is developing all this professional hardware shit ? Many of them are hobbyists that makes a job out of their hobby. And what will they use ? The parts that they know, the parts that they used at home too.
Who would use windows if there wasn't years where M$ never done anything against piracy on private pc's ?
.. You may even have heard of me in the hacking sceen
First sign that someone is not, is when they make claims of what they are of this kind.
In your 20 years of embedded, was the end user Consumer or Sci/Ind?
And many thanks ofr the fish. The thing is, FTDI (and others) deliver quality parts for use by industry. They help out the hobbyist scene by delivering hobby friendly parts - When the FT232 was first released there was a a DIP adapter board for 10 - 20 GBP (cant remember the exact price) available to everyone direct from FTDI. I used a bunch of these for various projects
We, the community, have repaid FTDI by gleefully buying shitty clones from China (even if we 'didnt know') for a buck less, then we start a shitstorm because FTDi protect themselves? Piss poor IMHO
If the driver recognizes that it is not a real ftdi chip it should not work plain and simple. Maybe a message ox why it does not work and contact your seller or something similar but i agree that the ftdi driver should not work with the fake chip.
FTDI have delivered innovative products that have enabled the maker community.
FTDI have delivered innovative products that have enabled the maker community.Just admit you are hired by FTDI for social media damage control. You have repeated this marketing buzz-words collection several times now. It doesn't work on engineers.
Again
-FTDI have no chance of combating Chinese cloners
-If the driver displayed a message box, 99.9% of users would click cancel and ignore it
FTDI have delivered innovative products that have enabled the maker community. You have your knickers in a bunch because they ar eprotecting their IP. If they didn't protect themsellves there would be NO MORE new FTDI products and that would SUCK FOR EVERYONE
Too bad if you got burned in the short term, in the long term you will win
Want to complain? Go after the cloners and resellers, tell them how pissed you are
its not just 'makers'. I am seeing a lot of design (product) engineers steer away from ftdi just to avoid any RISK of having this hit them. unless you are a huge company, you cannot micromanage your offshore board builders. sure, you spec in a real ftdi part; but the pcb makers who stuff your board will do what they want and unless you have a man on the ground, there, 7x24, you cannot be sure some fakes won't slip into the supply.
When the FTDI driver is installed you are agreeing the terms of use of FTDI`s device. Please note that FTDI`s driver licence agreement will be broken if used with counterfeit devices.
its not just 'makers'. I am seeing a lot of design (product) engineers steer away from ftdi just to avoid any RISK of having this hit them. unless you are a huge company, you cannot micromanage your offshore board builders. sure, you spec in a real ftdi part; but the pcb makers who stuff your board will do what they want and unless you have a man on the ground, there, 7x24, you cannot be sure some fakes won't slip into the supply.But any part in your design could be substituted with a fake. What makes the FTDI part so special, besides getting immediate and visiable feedback that it's broken?