My personal position is that you're better off not letting Windows update anything but itself, and even then do not let it do it automatically. If you're really concerned about things getting screwed up, only download security updates unless you have a specific problem.
We can and do because we use franchised distributors, source all components ourselves and outsource build-only to a trusted, reliable assembler. Every manufacturer could do the same (or in-house build) but if you want to save cost by outsourcing to China, then yes, forget it. It is cost saving and profit greed that allows counterfeiting.In your naive world there would be no counterfeit money either
So you go into a shop with a counterfeit bill and find they have just installed a UV scanner which detects your counterfeit. They won't accept your bill and write "COUNTERFEIT" on it before giving it back so no one else will accept it either.
You then tweet to anyone that will listen that the bastards in this shop just BRICKED my bill. They illegally damaged my property. I am never going to shop there again. I want to start a class action law suit against this shop. It is not my fault I didn't know the bill was counterfeit. Maybe we could get together and make some better counterfeits that the shop can't detect. The shop always accepted my counterfeit bills before, they didn't ask for my permission before installing this new UV scanner, I didn't want them to it is completely unfair.
We can and do because we use franchised distributors, source all components ourselves and outsource build-only to a trusted, reliable assembler. Every manufacturer could do the same (or in-house build) but if you want to save cost by outsourcing to China, then yes, forget it. It is cost saving and profit greed that allows counterfeiting.In your naive world there would be no counterfeit money either
So you go into a shop with a counterfeit bill and find they have just installed a UV scanner which detects your counterfeit. They won't accept your bill and write "COUNTERFEIT" on it before giving it back so no one else will accept it either.
We can and do because we use franchised distributors, source all components ourselves and outsource build-only to a trusted, reliable assembler. Every manufacturer could do the same (or in-house build) but if you want to save cost by outsourcing to China, then yes, forget it. It is cost saving and profit greed that allows counterfeiting.In your naive world there would be no counterfeit money eitherSo you go into a shop with a counterfeit bill and find they have just installed a UV scanner which detects your counterfeit.
We can and do because we use franchised distributors, source all components ourselves and outsource build-only to a trusted, reliable assembler. Every manufacturer could do the same (or in-house build) but if you want to save cost by outsourcing to China, then yes, forget it. It is cost saving and profit greed that allows counterfeiting.In your naive world there would be no counterfeit money either
So you go into a shop with a counterfeit bill and find they have just installed a UV scanner which detects your counterfeit. They won't accept your bill and write "COUNTERFEIT" on it before giving it back so no one else will accept it either.
You then tweet to anyone that will listen that the bastards in this shop just BRICKED my bill. They illegally damaged my property. I am never going to shop there again. I want to start a class action law suit against this shop. It is not my fault I didn't know the bill was counterfeit. Maybe we could get together and make some better counterfeits that the shop can't detect. The shop always accepted my counterfeit bills before, they didn't ask for my permission before installing this new UV scanner, I didn't want them to it is completely unfair.
FTDI are trying to protect and increase their revenue streams on a particular run of the mill low value part - man they must be in trouble or being very petty. I wouldn't touch the rest of their product range with any length barge pole.
Didn't realize they cost that much, if they are marked as FTDI or you biught them as FTDI branded then you have every ounce on your side to return the things for a refund. It's up to your supplier to make sure they source genuine parts. I generally start with small quantities and if there are no problems order in bigger batches. Yes there are a few suppliers i have stopped using.
As usual in this thread you are missing the point completely
In case anyone is confused by this, you do not have to turn off Windows Update in Windows 7 just to block device driver downloads. For some reason known only to Microsoft this setting is not found in the Windows Update settings. It's located in:
Control Panel > System > Advanced system settings > Hardware tab > Device Installation Settings
My personal position is that you're better off not letting Windows update anything but itself, and even then do not let it do it automatically. If you're really concerned about things getting screwed up, only download security updates unless you have a specific problem.
reminds me of someone who called me over to fix his computer because it had a virus, he was running no antivirus and had stopped windows from updating as he thought it made things worse. That was his business computer he totally screwed up with all of his records.
Didn't realize they cost that much, if they are marked as FTDI or you biught them as FTDI branded then you have every ounce on your side to return the things for a refund. It's up to your supplier to make sure they source genuine parts. I generally start with small quantities and if there are no problems order in bigger batches. Yes there are a few suppliers i have stopped using.
They don't. But here i have only one official FTDI distributor (Arrow). I've called them in the past and they told me that they didn't have any in stock, and that the only way they could bring them was if i bought them an entire 2k piece REEL.
Didn't realize they cost that much, if they are marked as FTDI or you biught them as FTDI branded then you have every ounce on your side to return the things for a refund. It's up to your supplier to make sure they source genuine parts. I generally start with small quantities and if there are no problems order in bigger batches. Yes there are a few suppliers i have stopped using.
They don't. But here i have only one official FTDI distributor (Arrow). I've called them in the past and they told me that they didn't have any in stock, and that the only way they could bring them was if i bought them an entire 2k piece REEL.
Yea they are £4 or less in the UK and to think we paid a whole 16+ quid for one in a cable....... You have every right to throw them back at arrow, they should know better and at that price in that quantity they should come in gold foil packaging
Didn't realize they cost that much, if they are marked as FTDI or you biught them as FTDI branded then you have every ounce on your side to return the things for a refund. It's up to your supplier to make sure they source genuine parts. I generally start with small quantities and if there are no problems order in bigger batches. Yes there are a few suppliers i have stopped using.
They don't. But here i have only one official FTDI distributor (Arrow). I've called them in the past and they told me that they didn't have any in stock, and that the only way they could bring them was if i bought them an entire 2k piece REEL.
Yea they are £4 or less in the UK and to think we paid a whole 16+ quid for one in a cable....... You have every right to throw them back at arrow, they should know better and at that price in that quantity they should come in gold foil packaging
I think you didn't understand my previous posts. I didn't bought these conterfeits in Arrow. The told me (Arrow) that even if i bought the entire 2K REEL, the delay would be between 6 to 8 weeks. I bought them in another supplier, not an official FTDI distributor.
The other day Arrow sent me an email, telling me that they could fractionate the 2K REEL, but at a price of 12 USD + taxes each chip, and with a delay of 6 to 8 weeks too.
I'm now trying to get them from Future Electronics (importations here are almost closed). But this is the begining of our Company changing to other USB to Serial converter chip and brand. We're the ones beeing damaged from both fronts, and that's not fair. And they can't tell me that i knew that they were counterfeits, because i paid them as if the whole chip were made of silicon.
Didn't realize they cost that much, if they are marked as FTDI or you biught them as FTDI branded then you have every ounce on your side to return the things for a refund. It's up to your supplier to make sure they source genuine parts. I generally start with small quantities and if there are no problems order in bigger batches. Yes there are a few suppliers i have stopped using.
They don't. But here i have only one official FTDI distributor (Arrow). I've called them in the past and they told me that they didn't have any in stock, and that the only way they could bring them was if i bought them an entire 2k piece REEL.
Yea they are £4 or less in the UK and to think we paid a whole 16+ quid for one in a cable....... You have every right to throw them back at arrow, they should know better and at that price in that quantity they should come in gold foil packaging
I think you didn't understand my previous posts. I didn't bought these conterfeits in Arrow. The told me (Arrow) that even if i bought the entire 2K REEL, the delay would be between 6 to 8 weeks. I bought them in another supplier, not an official FTDI distributor.
The other day Arrow sent me an email, telling me that they could fractionate the 2K REEL, but at a price of 12 USD + taxes each chip, and with a delay of 6 to 8 weeks too.
I'm now trying to get them from Future Electronics (importations here are almost closed). But this is the begining of our Company changing to other USB to Serial converter chip and brand. We're the ones beeing damaged from both fronts, and that's not fair. And they can't tell me that i knew that they were counterfeits, because i paid them as if the whole chip were made of silicon.
Oh i see. well you should still return them, fakes are fakes and dud fakes as they will be are a pretty poor excuse for a cheap knock off. What is the problem with importing ? is it hard to import to your country full stop or is it suppliers that are not wanting to deal in your country ?
It's almost impossible to import things in my country.
It's almost impossible to import things in my country.
And that is? Russia perhaps?
We can and do because we use franchised distributors, source all components ourselves and outsource build-only to a trusted, reliable assembler. Every manufacturer could do the same (or in-house build) but if you want to save cost by outsourcing to China, then yes, forget it. It is cost saving and profit greed that allows counterfeiting.In your naive world there would be no counterfeit money either There is money to be made so somehow somewhere there is always someone who manages to slip in counterfeit items and make a profit.
To all those who would like to have FTDI sued for that:
That would be pretty difficult.
Look closely at the code snippet from marcan. (Thanks for that btw)
It's not coded like "oh we found a counterfeit device, go and let's brick it".
No, its much more clever: They write to the EEPROM in a way that is ignored by the original but that makes a fake one unusable.
So they would get away with a lawsuit. It's can't be proved that they deliberately sabotaged "compatible" devices.
The same code is executed for a genuine and a counterfeit device. It "just" happens that a counterfeit dies from it.
Sure we all know that this was the purpose. But that no lawsuit proof evidence.
big lawyer buffett.
Interesting idea. How do they taste?
To all those who would like to have FTDI sued for that:
That would be pretty difficult.