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#325 Reply
Posted by
Jwalling
on 30 Apr, 2023 08:39
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I did two more calibrations, searched for a file that had a new time stamp, and couldn’t find one.
I can’t figure out where the cal data is stored. Also, which file keeps the last setup so when the scope boots, it goes back to the previous setup (I’m assuming this is where the cal data is stored and why I’m asking).
Set Windows explorer to show hidden and system files. IIRC it's in c:\scope\cal
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#326 Reply
Posted by
ARF
on 30 Apr, 2023 09:53
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I have not studied this issue in detail, but as far as I remember, the calibration files and folder have "hidden" attributes. Did you check the "show hidden files" box in explorer?
I also do not quite understand why you need it, I already mentioned that it is better to make an entire image of the configured system. In this case, the calibration settings, options, any installed software will be saved.
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#327 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 30 Apr, 2023 13:03
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I already unchecked the hide system files and whichever else in Explorer, and still no luck.
As for wanting the calibration data. When I got this scope, channels 2 and 3 had blown 50ohm inputs. Thinking this wasn't an issue, I noticed the 'zero' points were off and decided to perform a calibration.
To my surprise, the scope would abort calibration leaving all four channels to remain uncalibrated. The reason I want the calibration data: should a channel ever blow again, and something happens where I lost a backup image and need to install from scratch, I can copy the calibration file(s) in hopes the scope will remain in a somewhat better state than being completely uncalibrated.
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#328 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 16 May, 2023 02:33
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Just an update.
I found the calibration and self test files. I may have misread about unchecking 'hide system files', however, I was unchecking it in Windows Explorer and think I needed to do it in the search field.
In any case, the scope is fully functional, but the ribbon cable was intermittent, so I bought a replacement and just got it today.
The scope fully loads, has all the options from the license file, it passed calibration and self tests, PDF writer installed, and will soon be fully assembled.
Also, I have a backup hard drive that has the identical setup on it should the primary fail; along with keeping the image files from here.
Moving forward, the only concern (as I've expressed) is whether I may need to re-register XP and Microsoft doesn't support it anymore. I'm a bit concerned over trying to locate a key generator (?) online as I may catch a virus. Does anyone have access to such a key generator or whatever to re-register windows?
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what is your windows version pro vlk oem family ?? do you have a source of your cd ??
you had this utility removewga 1.2 who get rid of the activation, it;s a classic one i used many times
and be sure your scope doesn't go to the web, xp is depreciated an absolutely not safe
as i mentioned xp keys can be found on the web, you need the right windows key for you xp version, no need of keygens
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#330 Reply
Posted by
ARF
on 16 May, 2023 06:26
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The Key from an Agilent scope. So, I guess it's OEM.
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#332 Reply
Posted by
ARF
on 16 May, 2023 06:37
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He already has entered key. It's from my scope. We are discussing ACTIVATION key, not register key.
However, the "WPA Kill" utility will suffice to solve this problem in the future.
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#333 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 17 May, 2023 03:08
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Where do I find WPA Kill?
What I don't get about having the activation key is that Windows generates a register key (?). Is the activation key that is given by Microsoft derived from the register key?
If so, I don't understand how just any activation key would work (I know this isn't a XP thread discussion, but it would help close this should anyone else download the XP image and need to register it).
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you need to read about XP activations scheme ......... inputting the right XP sku serial will activate windows
But if you go on the web, it will try to connect to Msoft servers asking a genuine activation against your serial number, this is what we call WGA windows genuine activation
If the serial number was used too often you'll get an non genuine windows popup
Removewga kill this process, it does not generate serials, you still need a serial number according the XP sku IE: Pro, OEM, Family, VLK Sp2 Sp3 etc ...
There is a bios trick to automatically activate window XP Win 7 Win 8 ... SLIC but i wont venture there
i put a zip file earlier in my answer
its called removewga
Normally you install a windows version according to the serial sticker found on your equipment, if it say OEM, you need to have an XP OEM vesrion install disk
You have some google infos how to convert XP editions to suit your needs
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#335 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 19 May, 2023 02:56
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its called removewga
I tried double clicking this on a junk laptop running XP. I got a pop up that read: Microsoft WGA Notification Tool is not currently active on your system.
Does this mean it has removed the WGA? Anyway to reverse it since I didn't think a simple click would execute it without warning?
If I understood your explanation correctly, any serial number will work providing XP isn't connected to the Internet (I don't plan to ever connect this oscilloscope to the Internet anyway).
On a side note, these two questions are for ARF.
An option exists in the drop down menu to install licenses or something like that. Can I install options here instead of editing the text file (this question isn't really that important since I don't believe I'll be installing any additional stuff).
My other question is regarding the mouse arrow. When the scope boots, the mouse arrow is in the middle of the screen forcing me to have a mouse (wireless in this case) available so I can move the pointer away. Any boxes or options in the scope to make the pointer vanish like the Win98 did? Well, I don't believe it vanished, but it forced the pointer to remain in the top right.
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YOU did not read carefully, you have understanding issues ... you need the correct serial number to activate Windows XP
You have different editions of windows ... you need to match it against your OEM sticker on the back panel when you have one
If WGA is not active on you XP Fine it's perfect, do not let it go to the web that's all
Upgrade to sp3 if the installed XP is not Sp3 .... thats all have fun with your scope
and some questions directed to ARF
The mouse pointer on some touch screen, is or are seen as an HID device or else, simply put, an interface .. the pointer is sometimes put at the center while windows is booting, you see the mouse pointer flickering and it could be seen as a good sign that it works ...
It does that on a TEK scope i have, i absolutely dont care, but it tells you windows is getting ready to operate .....
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#337 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 19 May, 2023 14:25
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I don't believe I have understanding issues. It's a matter of some confusion because I can't (or don't want to) install SP2 or 3 on the system, nor does my OEM sticker have any meaning since it's for Win98 and this system is XP (from a CD that I don't have).
I simply asked what that program did when I double clicked it because it showed: Microsoft WGA Notification Tool is not currently active on your system.
As for the mouse pointer, on Win98, the mouse was locked in the corner. With this, the mouse is blocking the screen. Should I want to take a quick measurement, I need to get a mouse, move the pointer, etc.... and was wondering if I overlooked an area where it would allow me to lock the pointer somewhere to avoid the above steps.
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Sp2 and Sp3 pack resolved some OS and driver issues, i would install it right away, that's your choice
Wga Remover will do nothing, if it is not running inside XP
For the mouse pointer check in the mouse settings properties if anything can help
This
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http://www.snakebytestudios.com/projects/apps/cursor-lock/
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#339 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 20 May, 2023 00:17
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So where does it need to be placed to be running inside XP?
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well my bad if wga services is not running in XP wga remover will do nothing
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#341 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 20 May, 2023 01:42
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Oh, so the message I got meant it didn’t install anything?
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#342 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 21 May, 2023 14:36
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well my bad if wga services is not running in XP wga remover will do nothing
I'm still confused (and have read about XP activation schemes). I don't plan to or have a need to ever connect my scope to the Internet. If sometime down the road I reinstall WinXP, my understanding is the scope generates a register key based on the properties of the "computer" (i.e. the hardware, RAM, hard drive, etc...).
Currently it generates the same register key from the XP image and I have the activation key (from MS) to legally register XP, however, let's assume down the road the register key changes for whatever reason. I can't use just any activation key, or can I?
I downloaded a list of keys (from a posting in this thread that led me to Github), but, since the scope will not be connected to the Internet, does this mean any activation key will work from that list?
Also, if I need to resort to WGA Remover, where do I place the file? As I mentioned, I clicked on it using a legit XP machine (i.e. registered) and it displayed: Microsoft WGA Notification Tool is not currently active on your system
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No Xp did not use the hardware id's thats why i told you about your understanding problems and they way you say things ... my side too since im native french
you put a serial number and that's it, no problemo
on some updates Msfoft played some tricks and implemented the Wga feature and cross check on Msoft servers
because piracy got higher / increased, and they implemented hardware id's later in other windows
for the last time, if the serial number match the Xp version you have installed, you wont get problems, no internet means safety and no updates who could add problems
and finally if your scope works good for you, make an hdd clone / backup as safety and have fun
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#344 Reply
Posted by
gslick
on 26 May, 2023 18:32
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there was some dll hacks too, you could enter an universal serial number ...
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#346 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 29 May, 2023 02:01
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Extract xp_activate32.exe
18432 bytes with a SHA-256 hash of 5a4bcac5a50eb5113dd6a2f88c35ebdb709c4df8a792c71ad03ea347afaced52
I tried this on an old XP laptop using the installation ID the scope provided when I registered that version of XP. It provided a confirmation ID, however, it was different than the one provided by Microsoft (which allowed XP on the scope to register legally).
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#347 Reply
Posted by
ARF
on 29 May, 2023 08:28
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Of course, it will be different due to other hardware set in the laptop. Everything is correct.
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#348 Reply
Posted by
bostonman
on 29 May, 2023 13:14
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This is what I assumed, but the number I entered to generate the confirmation ID was already generated by the scope based on the hardware. When I gave this number to Microsoft, they gave me the activation ID to register XP based on the confirmation ID.
Using that same confirmation ID in this program should have resulted in the same number Microsoft provided because neither one would know what the hardware is except based on the confirmation ID already generated.
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a confirmation id is not at the same level than HW ID but it was a beginning .... but now we have some tools loll