* Rigol requires hacking for the higher bandwidth, not sure what that means with warranty, etc.
The major difference that I identified between the SDS1204X-E and DS1054Z are:
* 200Mhz vs 50Mhz (100Mhz hacked)
* 1GSA/s vs 500MSa/s 2ch (500MSa/s vs 250MSa/s 4ch)
* 100,000 vs 30,000 wfms/s
* 14M vs 28M point memory depth
* 256 vs 64 levels intensity grading
* Rigol requires hacking for the higher bandwidth, not sure what that means with warranty, etc.
SDS1204X-E has two 14M memory modules, one for each ADC.
hello, I bought a few days ago a rigol ds1054z in tequipment, price u $ s 440 shipment included to Argentina,
hello, I bought a few days ago a rigol ds1054z in tequipment, price u $ s 440 shipment included to Argentina,
Sorry for an off-topic question: how did things go with customs ? What carrier did you use for shipping ? There used to be issues with importing devices that connect to mains, due to not having Argentine approval ("Seguridad Electrica"), but I haven't tried in recent years. I was once told that a "work-around" would be to ask the sender to ship without a power cord, but I'm not sure how reliably that trick worked.
Thanks in advance !
- Werner
He's had a hell of a time with it, see here:
Saving a few $ rather than buying local hasn't been worth it for him.
Saving a few $ rather than buying local hasn't been worth it for him.
Well, I'm considering a Siglent SDS1204X-E and there don't seem to be any local sources for that series. The best Siglent scopes I could find around here, from the two local vendors Siglent list, would be the SDS1074CFL, SDS1104CFL, or SDS1202CNL+, neither of which would be of much use for me since I need reasonably deep memory.
Please don't get me wrong: I try to buy local whenever reasonable, but for some things that doesn't really work.
- Werner
Maybe some instrument vendors could order the SDS1204X-E on my behalf, but - as I see Adrian also hints at in the probe compensation thread - they wouldn't really provide much added value beyond having more experience with getting it through customs.
I pulled the trigger and purchased the Siglent SDS1204X-E for a little north of 700 UDS with discount. Found out that the unit is back ordered and won't be shipped for at least a month. Now I doubt myself again and wonder if I should downgrade to the Rigol DS1054Z.
Since it's just for hobby I don't need the oscilloscope right now, so waiting is OK. This would be my first oscilloscope although I did get to play with some in the past. Yes, it means that I'm not quite sure what I'd really need (2ch vs 4ch, bandwidth, sampling rate, etc). I expect my usage to be with electronic projects in amateur radio and arduino area along with some just curious educational tests and [pipe dream] some trouble shooting and repair. Yes, that still doesn't tell much what I might "need".
I enjoy quality and useful equipment. For example I purchased an $600 antenna analyzer (RigExpert AA-600) and never looked back at the price because it's such a joy to use. That said, while the SDS1204X-E doesn't make me starve it is a good junk of my savings (i.e. money doesn't grow on trees for me either).
The major difference that I identified between the SDS1204X-E and DS1054Z are:
* 200Mhz vs 50Mhz (100Mhz hacked)
* 1GSA/s vs 500MSa/s 2ch (500MSa/s vs 250MSa/s 4ch)
* 100,000 vs 30,000 wfms/s* 14M vs 28M point memory depth
* 256 vs 64 levels intensity grading
* Rigol requires hacking for the higher bandwidth, not sure what that means with warranty, etc.
I know, ultimately I have to make the decision and I have been reading way to much opinions on this forum (although most are between the DS1054Z and SDS1202X-E). Should I just stick with my decision and wait for the Siglent or am I being really stupid not to get the Rigol and hack?
They're on the Siglent how to buy page:
They're on the Siglent how to buy page:
Thanks ! These are the local sources I mentioned, that only have the SDS1000Cxx series models that seem quite obsolete.
Sadly, the local market is not as well-developed as one might expect.
- Werner
Does Siglent sell it's products on consignment or wholesale? I'm guessing wholesale, therefore, sellers have to clear-out their old inventory before getting new products for obvious reasons.
As to the scopes, I think the 'killer' feature of Siglent 1x04X-E is 1Gsa/ch rate when using two channels and 500Gsa/ch with four.
On the other hand, regarding Siglent's user interface, lets just say that I'm looking forward to supposed improvements.
I wonder why your local guys haven't woken up to at least the 2ch SDS1kX series, they're the intermediary series before the X-E's and either are in another world from the old C*L or even newer + models.
Maybe they need a push.....from you ?
Or is the marketplace over there very sensitive to pricing ?
If you're prepared to wait get them to get a SDS1104X-E for you. If they've never seen one before and 'really know' what they're looking at they won't bring in any more C*L models.......I don't !
Best of luck with your DSO hunt.
Anyway, the *Cxx series - for similar analog bandwidth and number of ports - don't seem to cost less than the *X* ?