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Hello
I have had my Flir One for a while now, and have wondered why it did not have a larger temp range and more pallets.
I think Flir did not enable these because it did not want the Flir One to be too close in specs to the E4.
When the Flir One was announced i only had, and still only have an Iphone 5C. I ordered the Flir One and modified a 5C hard plastic case to fit the Flir One. I suspect the Flir One will also work with an Ipod touch 5th gen since it is the same size as an iphone 5 or 5S.
To @vincentwrath
I am still unclear how you were able to make the changes you did. Do you have to have a Jailbroken Iphone ? Do you need a Mac computer to do this. I only have a windows PC. I would like to understand this process more so i can try the changes.
You need a jailbroken iphone, that way you can access the files in the app and make modifications to it. -
Thanks @devilmastah
I was afraid that was the case. My phone is half mine and half the company i work for, so i probably won't be jailbreaking it any time soon. Nice to know that such changes to apps can be made though. -
.... I suspect the Flir One will also work with an Ipod touch 5th gen since it is the same size as an iphone 5 or 5S.
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nope. For one thing the app refuses to install on an iPod touch. Also, the cases are slightly different. iPod touch sure looks a lot like an iPhone of the same generation but they are different hardware. -
Thanks @devilmastah
I was afraid that was the case. My phone is half mine and half the company i work for, so i probably won't be jailbreaking it any time soon. Nice to know that such changes to apps can be made though.
here is my suggestion suggetstion, first All of your IPA files you have download with itune can be found with this following route: C:\Users\Administrator\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Mobile Applications, find flir one 1.1.2, open but don't extract?find the palettes.plist and emissivity.plist, (FLIR ONE-1.1.3\Payload\Rosebud.app\CameraFiles\bin here you can find all currently available palettes), use plisteditor follow its formation to unlock palettes and add any emissivities you want.when you are done, compress these two modified files back to flir one IPA.the last step , uninstall the flir one from your iphone,and reinstall from the pc.finally, I think the work should be done. -
here is my suggestion suggetstion, first All of your IPA files you have download with itune can be found with this following route: C:\Users\Administrator\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Mobile Applications, find flir one 1.1.2, open but don't extract?find the palettes.plist and emissivity.plist, (FLIR ONE-1.1.3\Payload\Rosebud.app\CameraFiles\bin here you can find all currently available palettes), use plisteditor follow its formation to unlock palettes and add any emissivities you want.when you are done, compress these two modified files back to flir one IPA.the last step , uninstall the flir one from your iphone,and reinstall from the pc.finally, I think the work should be done.
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Thanks vincentwrath
I'm away from home on a buisness trip, and might give that a try when i get back. Could the extended temperature range be unlocked this way as well? -
here is my suggestion suggetstion, first All of your IPA files you have download with itune can be found with this following route: C:\Users\Administrator\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Mobile Applications, find flir one 1.1.2, open but don't extract?find the palettes.plist and emissivity.plist, (FLIR ONE-1.1.3\Payload\Rosebud.app\CameraFiles\bin here you can find all currently available palettes), use plisteditor follow its formation to unlock palettes and add any emissivities you want.when you are done, compress these two modified files back to flir one IPA.the last step , uninstall the flir one from your iphone,and reinstall from the pc.finally, I think the work should be done.
Thanks vincentwrath
I'm away from home on a buisness trip, and might give that a try when i get back. Could the extended temperature range be unlocked this way as well?
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no, just the 5 more palettes and add any custome emissivities , and we all need to wait Mr devilmastah to show us how to extend temperature range.
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To vincentwrath:
I had a little time today to try your instructions.
I used itunes to download Flir One 1.1.3
Using windows explorer, i navigated to the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file which was right where you said it would be.
However i was unable to "open" it to get to the .plist files. What do i open it with?
I have "Plist editor 2.0" installed, but it doesn't see the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file at all
Your instructions seemed straight forward but i must be missing something.
I'm running Windows 8.1 on my laptop
thanks for any help you can provide. -
To vincentwrath:
I had a little time today to try your instructions.
I used itunes to download Flir One 1.1.3
Using windows explorer, i navigated to the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file which was right where you said it would be.
However i was unable to "open" it to get to the .plist files. What do i open it with?
I have "Plist editor 2.0" installed, but it doesn't see the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file at all
Your instructions seemed straight forward but i must be missing something.
I'm running Windows 8.1 on my laptop
thanks for any help you can provide.
use winRAR,find the flir one ipa flie,double click,then you have enter into it.
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inside the Flir One app I found the interesting file SuperResDenoise.plistCode: [Select]
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Date</key>
<date>2014-03-12T22:10:38Z</date>
<key>Deblur_PSD</key>
<dict>
<key>ht1_1x8x8</key>
<array>
--- snip ---
</dict>
<key>Denoise_Parameters</key>
<dict>
<key>dn_dctBlkStepSz</key>
<integer>4</integer>
<key>dn_motionThreshold</key>
<real>0.20000000000000001</real>
<key>dn_smoothing</key>
<integer>50</integer>
</dict>
<key>Description</key>
<string>Flir One Parameters for SuperResolution, Denoise and Deblur.</string>
<key>PSD</key>
<dict>
--- snip ---
<key>Revision_number</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Super_Resolution_Parameters</key>
<dict>
<key>sr_alpha</key>
<real>0.59999999999999998</real>
<key>sr_bestQuality</key>
<true/>
<key>sr_beta</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>sr_bilinearUpscale</key>
<false/>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
see my posts for details about superresolution:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg363688/#msg363688
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg363213/#msg363213you can see this effect on the pins of the LQFP64 (pin-distance: 0.5mm)
single image (see left side of chip - pins are different blurred)
stacked image (all pins are sharp)
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inside the Flir One app I found the interesting file SuperResDenoise.plist
Code: [Select]<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Date</key>
<date>2014-03-12T22:10:38Z</date>
<key>Deblur_PSD</key>
<dict>
<key>ht1_1x8x8</key>
<array>
--- snip ---
</dict>
<key>Denoise_Parameters</key>
<dict>
<key>dn_dctBlkStepSz</key>
<integer>4</integer>
<key>dn_motionThreshold</key>
<real>0.20000000000000001</real>
<key>dn_smoothing</key>
<integer>50</integer>
</dict>
<key>Description</key>
<string>Flir One Parameters for SuperResolution, Denoise and Deblur.</string>
<key>PSD</key>
<dict>
--- snip ---
<key>Revision_number</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Super_Resolution_Parameters</key>
<dict>
<key>sr_alpha</key>
<real>0.59999999999999998</real>
<key>sr_bestQuality</key>
<true/>
<key>sr_beta</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>sr_bilinearUpscale</key>
<false/>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
see my posts for details about superresolution:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg363688/#msg363688
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg363213/#msg363213you can see this effect on the pins of the LQFP64 (pin-distance: 0.5mm)
single image (see left side of chip - pins are different blurred)
stacked image (all pins are sharp)
i saw that as well, i dont quite get what the paramters are doing,
Some seem quite obvious, like motiontreshold and smoothing.
But whats the huge array and the top array for -
To vincentwrath:
I had a little time today to try your instructions.
I used itunes to download Flir One 1.1.3
Using windows explorer, i navigated to the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file which was right where you said it would be.
However i was unable to "open" it to get to the .plist files. What do i open it with?
I have "Plist editor 2.0" installed, but it doesn't see the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file at all
Your instructions seemed straight forward but i must be missing something.
I'm running Windows 8.1 on my laptop
thanks for any help you can provide.
use winRAR,find the flir one ipa flie,double click,then you have enter into it.
So it seems im still not doing something right. I installed Winrar, opened the .ipa file, found the palettes.plist file, edited it (correctly i think) with Plisteditor, "Added" it back into the .ipa file. Then i deleted flir one from the phone, synced with itunes to install it again. That seemed to go ok , it loaded to the iphone, except on the iphone it never got out of "installing" and the icon was darkened. -
To vincentwrath:
I had a little time today to try your instructions.
I used itunes to download Flir One 1.1.3
Using windows explorer, i navigated to the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file which was right where you said it would be.
However i was unable to "open" it to get to the .plist files. What do i open it with?
I have "Plist editor 2.0" installed, but it doesn't see the Flir One 1.1.3.ipa file at all
Your instructions seemed straight forward but i must be missing something.
I'm running Windows 8.1 on my laptop
thanks for any help you can provide.
use winRAR,find the flir one ipa flie,double click,then you have enter into it.
So it seems im still not doing something right. I installed Winrar, opened the .ipa file, found the palettes.plist file, edited it (correctly i think) with Plisteditor, "Added" it back into the .ipa file. Then i deleted flir one from the phone, synced with itunes to install it again. That seemed to go ok , it loaded to the iphone, except on the iphone it never got out of "installing" and the icon was darkened.
scenario 1. reboost your iphone, then everything fine.
scenario 2.apply flight mode,then reboost. the cracked flir app can be removed.
and My sincere condolence for not assuming the risk of non-jail break iphone -
to vincentwrath
Thanks for the tips. I did not have a problem with my iphone functioning...i performed the same steps you mentioned and my phone works fine and i can install the unmodified .ipa. But the modified .ipa just won't install properly.
I am new to using winrar and plisteditor so perhaps i am doing something wrong.
--i used winrar's "add" function to install and replace the palettes plist
--then i used winrars "test" function which said everything ok
Perhaps someone has other suggestions or could post their modified palettes.plist file so i can try using that.
thanks for your help
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i saw that as well, i dont quite get what the paramters are doing,
Some seem quite obvious, like motiontreshold and smoothing.
But whats the huge array and the top array for
The flir lepton camera module has 9Hz frame rate
I can't see any delays in the flir one app for sampling multiple images and calculate a super resolution
I think, the file SuperResDenoise.plist contains paramters for tricky bilinear upscaling of a single noisy image from 80x60 (Sensor) to 160x120 (embedded RAW values in jpg). -
a sensitivity test
post moved to https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/msg551878/#msg551878
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check for fake noise
moved to https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/msg551881/#msg551881
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resolution test
post moved to https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/msg551882/#msg551882
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after some Flir Ones reached the eevblog forum users it's time to collect some infos for hacking of the lepton sensor and iphone app
Therefore I started a new thread.
As thread starter I can collect some good infos in the first post.
(like Mike for the Flir Ex/Exx here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/ )
Please go to
Flir One Thermal imaging camera teardown and hacks
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-one-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown-and-hacks/ -
New firmware update allows charging your phone while connected to the Flir camera. It does this after the Flir camera is charged.
This removes one of the bigger PITA regarding the device. -
Newsletter on Lepton availability just arrived in my email:
http://cvs.flir.com/webmail/6132/582294369/392afc20347a08c88115a301559fa4ae
Aurora -
Now at Sparkfun
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13233 -
So the garage door at work breaks. Repair guy comes out three times during the day to fix it. Can't seem to find anything wrong.
A few hours into my shift, it breaks again. I do what he suggests, power-cycling, etc. I sorta get it working again. The case is only
held on by one screw (he pointed this out), and I pop it open to have a peek. I remember I have my FLIR ONE on my iPhone 5 and point that
at it. Picture below:
Turns out there is a 2 Watt resistor that's almost 200 degrees F while it's idle and under no load. (couldn't keep the camera steady enough to
catch the peak in the picture.) Anyway, the temp under those conditions seemed, well, wrong. So, I let it cool off for half an hour,
and then it works again. This explains why he couldn't find anything amiss: It had been cold and off every time he'd got there to check it.
I think it's hilarious that he had this van full of garage door repair equipment, and couldn't debug it in three visits, but I managed it in a
couple seconds with my phone!
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was a fairly normal running temp, and this heat over time has cause other parts to fail, or caused bad solder joints in the surrounding area.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was a fairly normal running temp, and this heat over time has cause other parts to fail, or caused bad solder joints in the surrounding area.
I could see it warming up while actually opening the door (why else use a 2 watt resistor) but 200 degrees just sitting there idle? While idle, the whole device just has to sit there waiting for a signal from an external radio receiver. BTW, that looks like a MOSFET or a regulator next to it. It was impossible to read the markings in that light. The resistor was situated near the pins, couldn't tell what either of them were connected to, but they were only a couple millimeters apart. The only other thing in there that's even warm was the transformer near the top of the pic.
I know it's hard to tell from the visible light picture (very bad light, had to pull out what detail you see with a curve adjustment in PS) but there's no heat sink on it or anything else in the device.
When I told him, the repair guy seemed to think that temp was not right also, but I'd bet he's never actually seen a good one in IR, so I suspect he may have no idea what it was supposed to be.
You've seen the inside of way more electronics than I have (or will). Is that common practice to just have one really toasty resistor in something doing nothing?
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Not good engineering but it could be a simple & cheap dropper to get the low voltage supply for the receiver from the mainsI wouldn't be surprised if that was a fairly normal running temp, and this heat over time has cause other parts to fail, or caused bad solder joints in the surrounding area.
I could see it warming up while actually opening the door (why else use a 2 watt resistor) but 200 degrees just sitting there idle? While idle, the whole device just has to sit there waiting for a signal from an external radio receiver. BTW, that looks like a MOSFET or a regulator next to it. It was impossible to read the markings in that light. The resistor was situated near the pins, couldn't tell what either of them were connected to, but they were only a couple millimeters apart. The only other thing in there that's even warm was the transformer near the top of the pic.
I know it's hard to tell from the visible light picture (very bad light, had to pull out what detail you see with a curve adjustment in PS) but there's no heat sink on it or anything else in the device.
When I told him, the repair guy seemed to think that temp was not right also, but I'd bet he's never actually seen a good one in IR, so I suspect he may have no idea what it was supposed to be.
You've seen the inside of way more electronics than I have (or will). Is that common practice to just have one really toasty resistor in something doing nothing?
UPDATE: Board swapped (of course) it all works now.
