Dave, when I watched the video, I reacted to two things.
1) You took the platform adjustment process too lightly in my opinion. As far as I understand it, the purpose of the adjustment is that the distance between the platform and the head should be smaller than the height of filament track, so you get enough pressure for the first layer to stick to the platform. And then see what happened to your first print.
2) Then there's the rubber feet that you just threw to the said and said "who cares" when they didn't stick. They were likely there for a reason, obviously to absorb shocks. My guess is that's what killed it, maybe because all three platforms took a sharp turn at the same time and that created a shock which killed a stepper motor or made a dent in one of the gears or what have you.
[t's hard to understand how a commercial product can have so many problems, for the problems it should still be in indoors development/testing, the thing is that the image of the company is on stake
I just had a sort look at software and it really screams a bunch of software hacked together with some weak duct tape, fine the a home thing not for a commercial product.
They really need to use some of that 10M and invest in people to take care of the big problems and also the details...
I agree.
But I don't know how far they are ahead or behind the commercial competition, it could be that with all it's issues, the Makerbot is ahead.
But in either case they'd better be careful.
I've only had a brief play with a competing one and it seemed better on the software side, and on the hardware results side too, but that was only brief.
I've lost count of the number of people who've commented "what did you get a Makerbot for, they are crap, get XXXXXXXX" etc. So it seems they have to be careful about their rep. My failed example isn't helping with that I suspect.
If I paid $1800 for it, I'd be pretty pissed at this failure.
If I did something stupid to break it, then fine (although the software shouldn't let me), but running an example on the supplied SD card is inexcusable.
Dave.
I don't understand why the platform has to be adjusted. Is it because the X and Y rods could be guaranteed perpendicular to the Z rods at assembly? I don't think it will move THAT MUCH during shipping that you got to have four knobs that move pretty far.
I imagine they swapped to the external PSU so they don't have to go through all the certification for a mains power supply and can get a decently high voltage for their heaters etc. Why muck around with a crappy ATX PSU?
QuoteI imagine they swapped to the external PSU so they don't have to go through all the certification for a mains power supply and can get a decently high voltage for their heaters etc. Why muck around with a crappy ATX PSU?
Maybe they could've provided mounts somewhere for the PSU, just to keep it out of the way.
That's not a crappy ATX PSU. Meanwell are quite a good brand, it was 24v from memory. I have one of their open chassis higher end supplies and the build quality is really nice. It always runs cool, not that I really run it hard though.
kidding appart, I'm really surprised at how such expensive things can be so "unfinished" and encounter such problems.
Entry level 3D printers have now been on the market for several years and several tens of thousands may have been sold by the different makers ... We shouldn't still see nearly prototype / home made things entering the market for more than 1.5 k$ ...
I'm not suprised to be honest, when you compare the price against a more professional machine, then 1500$ is at least a factor 10 cheaper.
As for position feedback, i might be able to add something: stepper motors are actualy very rarely used with absolute position feedback. This is because stepper movement is practically quantified and it's a very fair assumption that if you send a pulse to the driver, and driver makes a transition to the next step in sequence, than the motor WILL move by one unit of distance.
To be honest, I agree. In terms of speed and quality, this is very much in the "before Epson MX80 9-pin dot matrix printer" stage.
I think Makerbot has to make a quantum leap with their next product, and abandon their traditional architecture. It shouldn't need expensive steppers that big, or have plywood panels with burnt wood that comes off over your hands. As Dave notes, it really needs positional feedback - it really isn't that expensive. Optical discs and IR sensing would maybe cost $1 in quantity.