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Link worked for me if already logged into element 14 website.
3 kits available 70 applicants atm
I do not trust anything that comes as opinion or reviews from "element14" .
But that's a personal thing.
Application submitted and I am on the candidates. Would be great to test drive this scope first hand and compare with a Tek DPO3k over here.
Ha, the irony...Alistair W. was the name of a sales rep from Tek that did a demo for an MSO4k at Intel in 2007ish. Same guy?!...
Ha, the irony...Alistair W. was the name of a sales rep from Tek that did a demo for an MSO4k at Intel in 2007ish. Same guy?!...
Unique name, so probably. Coincidentally, he's leaving (or has already left) Element 14.
Dave.
Alistair is in this forum...
Coincidentally, he's leaving (or has already left) Element 14.
I applauder everyone who leaves or is leaving that parody called Element 14. Element 14, where they take hobbyists for a ride. And I am not just talking about the road tests.
I applauder everyone who leaves or is leaving that parody called Element 14. Element 14, where they take hobbyists for a ride. And I am not just talking about the road tests.
How do they take people for a ride?
You get to keep the road test items, and in this case three Agilent 3000X's is nothing short of bloody amazing.
But the Element 14 site is of course, a big FAIL. But pour money into it they do, a LOT of money...
Dave.
Coincidentally, he's leaving (or has already left) Element 14.
I applauder everyone who leaves or is leaving that parody called Element 14. Element 14, where they take hobbyists for a ride. And I am not just talking about the road tests.
OK, I'll bite.
- In exchange for a couple of hours writing I have received already $1k worth of test gear via roadtests. And to be in the running for that Agilent MSOX3024A isn't half bad either; most likely a 1 in 150 chance for a $5.5k MSO.
- They will deliver, for free, via overnight courier, to my home in a tiny town in the Hunter Valley, orders valued at $10 or more. Altronics can't manage that even when I pay them extra for AAE 'jet express' overnight courier.
How are e-14 taking hobbyists for a ride?
How are e-14 taking hobbyists for a ride?
First they try to attract them via the element14 website, then they refuse to sell to them in at least Austria, Sweden, Germany and India.
How are e-14 taking hobbyists for a ride?
First they try to attract them via the element14 website, then they refuse to sell to them in at least Austria, Sweden, Germany and India.
Wow - that really, really sucks. Point taken.
[I wish you had just said that instead of keeping us in suspense
]
That doesn't make sense, because E14 will sell to anyone here in Oz, and as John said, free courier on web orders. Can't be beat.
RS components do the same thing.
Buy hey, Farnell/Element14/Newark is real hotch-potch company anyway, so probably not surprising they do stupid things in different countries.
Dave.
That doesn't make sense,
You can add Denmark, Finland, Norway and Portugal to the list of countries where Farnell doesn't make sense, i.e. doesn't sell to hobbyists. Sometimes they just say no, sometimes they refer hobbyists to some retailer. Run the red text on
https://dk.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp through google translate and you get:
...
Note: Farnell trades only with companies with a valid VAT number, and all purchases are paid via invoice.
...
For
https://fi.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp you get
If you are an individual, you can search for products without having to register and order must be made through dealers. ...
And
https://no.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp ...
Note: Farnell's only businesses with valid registration number, and all purchases are paid via invoice.
...
Portugal
https://pt.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp Please be advised that a result of restructuring of business, from the 4th of May 2009 to Farnell stopped selling directly to its private clients in Portugal.
In Belgium and the Netherlands they seem to have special conditions (
https://be.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp and
https://nl.farnell.com/jsp/profile/register.jsp again the red text).
RS components do the same thing.
Do you mean not selling to hobbyists? Indeed, they also do that
Making their DesignSpark PCB community things as dodgy as Farnell'S Element 14.
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Thanks Rufus..I have tried for two years
I've never demo'd sold Tek stuff. Be interesting if someone with the same unusual name was in the same business!
Dave..you know too much
I think RoadTest has been great fun. We've had some outstanding reviews over the last two years, quite a few from guys on this forum..actually most from guys from here! We must have given out a few hundred ks worth of gear without looking for anything but a few words and pics in return.
But all good things come to an end..and I'll probably be spending a bit more time chillin here now
If we are able to conduct the road test and we are allowed to keep the product..are we allowed to resell?
If we are able to conduct the road test and we are allowed to keep the product..are we allowed to resell?
After you write the review then it is your's to keep, sell, destroy..or jump in a canyon with (disclaimer that Fluke DMM was not part of rt)
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Thanks Rufus..I have tried for two years
I've never demo'd sold Tek stuff. Be interesting if someone with the same unusual name was in the same business!
Dave..you know too much
I think RoadTest has been great fun. We've had some outstanding reviews over the last two years, quite a few from guys on this forum..actually most from guys from here! We must have given out a few hundred ks worth of gear without looking for anything but a few words and pics in return.
The only thing that annoys me with roadtests - some people literally write nothing at all. For example, the Agilent U1272A... I spent a while on it, and updated the review over time. Then you have people who spent about five minutes, such as
http://www.element14.com/community/roadTestReviews/1003If I'm not lucky enough to receive one of the Agilent MSOX3024As I sure hope whoever does get one puts some effort into their review.
http://www.element14.com/community/roadTestReviews/1003.
An unexpected error has occurredEven so, it does not matter the time spent about writing the review it self.
What it does matter, are that those reviews to be rich of information, for the professionals and experts.
And this demands from the side of the reviewer, to had actually work in the field,
so to have some experience, of what called as useful, and what as a toy.
We are talking about an industrial tool, and not a flashlight.
The U1272A has a manual of 150 pages.
If you do not read it, you can not understand of what this device is capable of !!
http://www.element14.com/community/roadTestReviews/1003.
An unexpected error has occurred
Even so, it does not matter the time spent about writing the review it self.
What it does matter, are that those reviews to be rich of information, for the professionals and experts.
Yes, my point exactly.
Try the link again, a full stop was at the end by accident.
tronixstuff, you might not want to give away all of your secrets, but how much did you write in your accepted road test applications' "why do you want to review this" section? I've enrolled for the Agilent MSO (hey, why not!
and written what I hope is a convincing argument for why I'd be able to provide a useful review.
The "I measured the temperature of my armpit" review was truly diabolical. I'd be interested to see what they put in the application. Maybe element14 were having a slow day.
tronixstuff, you might not want to give away all of your secrets, but how much did you write in your accepted road test applications' "why do you want to review this" section? I've enrolled for the Agilent MSO (hey, why not! and written what I hope is a convincing argument for why I'd be able to provide a useful review.
Ask me after the 18th of July.
The only thing that annoys me with roadtests - some people literally write nothing at all. For example, the Agilent U1272A... I spent a while on it, and updated the review over time. Then you have people who spent about five minutes, such as
http://www.element14.com/community/roadTestReviews/1003
If I'm not lucky enough to receive one of the Agilent MSOX3024As I sure hope whoever does get one puts some effort into their review.
Yeah, that's the problem, most people just don't care and don't want to give back. I think they should go to an established reviewers, especially with really high end stuff like this.
I mean, and Agilent 3000X, wow, I thought I was lucky to get one, I know other reviewers that didn't get to keep theirs. And here are three up for grabs.
I think it's a crime if you don't get one John! yours are the best road test reviews by far that I've seen.
Dave.
tronixstuff, you might not want to give away all of your secrets, but how much did you write in your accepted road test applications' "why do you want to review this" section? I've enrolled for the Agilent MSO (hey, why not! and written what I hope is a convincing argument for why I'd be able to provide a useful review.
Ask me after the 18th of July.
I'd apply myself, but that might look a tad greedy on my part
But this full time video blogger could sure do with the resell cash
I'd likely be the only one that can provide the review up front!
Dave.